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    Love Systems Routines Manual (Vol 1 AND Vol 2)

    Awesome! This ebook is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. I'd say it is on par with the quality of Magic Bullets. It does an excellent job of providing tons of routines (the book is 199 pages long) and explaining how to create your own routines.

    I am getting pumped up to go try these as I read through. There are a wide variety of routines in each category, so I'm sure there will be ones to match your individual personality.

    Serious props to The Don and Savoy for creating such a great product! And thanks to everyone that contributed to its creation.



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    Please, PLEASE make sure this book is limited in supply. The last thing we need is such valuable information being handed to thousands of AFCs and making competition stiffer.

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    I just scanned it really quickly, and it looks pretty good. I'm looking forward to reading it and using it to help my game in 2008!

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    where can i get it from
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    This is the real deal. This is all it is has been hyped up to be. The best thing about it for me is it allows me to have a structure to base by own stuff around.

    Just like when we all learn how to write when we are kids, we all end up writing in our own hand writing style using the same letters of the alphabet.

    Well this is the alphabet, now go out and develop your own style based on your own life.

    This fills in all the blanks that I had.

    Great stuff!!!

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    This is exactly what I wanted. Great stuff.

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    How do you get it?i dont see it advertised anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comet06 View Post
    Please, PLEASE make sure this book is limited in supply. The last thing we need is such valuable information being handed to thousands of AFCs and making competition stiffer.
    We actually address this in the book.

    But it's a reasonable point, and we're trying to decide whether we should make the book $199 to make it more rare. But at a certain point, that just promotes piracy. I'd only raise it to $199 if people who use it told me it was worth that much. We're one of the few shops that doesn't serve everything up overpriced, and I'd liek to keep it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savoy View Post
    We actually address this in the book.

    But it's a reasonable point, and we're trying to decide whether we should make the book $199 to make it more rare. But at a certain point, that just promotes piracy. I'd only raise it to $199 if people who use it told me it was worth that much. We're one of the few shops that doesn't serve everything up overpriced, and I'd liek to keep it that way.
    How long until its going to be on sale again?

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    it needs the pages in the table of contents

    Otherwise the routines are real tight.

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    Please do not charge $200 for the manual. A lot of guys are just high school or college students working low paying jobs or saddled with loans. Also please do not limit access to the book by making it a limited print product. I have seen some posts on this forum suggesting that. Hopefully they're just joking. One of the tenants of the PUA community is helping other AFC's. Being selfish doesn't help the greater cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comet06
    Please, PLEASE make sure this book is limited in supply. The last thing we need is such valuable information being handed to thousands of AFCs and making competition stiffer.
    I disagree. I think that hoarding A grade material is only going to make the pick-up community stagnant and uncreative. Competition from aspiring AFC's is one of the most potent motivators for innovation. After all, what possible reason would a PUA have to spend time and effort coming up with exciting and powerful new routines if he were secure in the knowledge that the old ones were only known to the "Inner circle"?

    Besides, I haven't ordered my copy yet
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    Where can I buy it?

    Guys, please tell me, where can I buy the Routine Manual? No order link? LOL!

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    yes, same as above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savoy View Post
    We actually address this in the book.

    But it's a reasonable point, and we're trying to decide whether we should make the book $199 to make it more rare. But at a certain point, that just promotes piracy. I'd only raise it to $199 if people who use it told me it was worth that much. We're one of the few shops that doesn't serve everything up overpriced, and I'd liek to keep it that way.
    IMO, it should be worth more than $99. The manual's great. I didn't realize I had so many routines that I can make after reading the chapter on "how to make routines".

    Thanks for making this manual, Savoy. You Rule!

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    You can find the routines book here

    http://www.lovesystems.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by psyguy View Post
    You can find the routines book here

    http://www.lovesystems.com/
    why does this site seem so suspicious to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comet06 View Post
    Please, PLEASE make sure this book is limited in supply. The last thing we need is such valuable information being handed to thousands of AFCs and making competition stiffer.
    Otherwise, AFC's like me who are going to use the book as a script instead of a learning tool will be getting called out right and left, and then I'll still be an AFC because I can't make up my own routines like a real PUA would.

    lol. Just bustin' your chops, Comet06.
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    Glad you guys like the book. We put a lot of work into developing it. I think it will prove worth the wait.

    One of the main objectives Savoy and I had was to not only supply a large source of good routines, which the book certainly does, but also to provide a model of archetypal routines in the various categories; Transitions, Roleplays, Comfort Building, etc... So that people can develop their OWN versions after seeing what good routines look and sound like.

    Used properly, it should help you invent your own good material as much as use the material that is included. It serves BOTH purposes.

    In my (totally unbiased opinion it is the most useful, actionable product in the community.

    Enjoy!
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    Could you give any indication of when the manual will be going back on sale?
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    Tanglewood,

    I just bought the manual at www.lovesystems.com. Go there. I think the company is transitioning to a different company name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwall3232 View Post
    Tanglewood,

    I just bought the manual at www.lovesystems.com. Go there. I think the company is transitioning to a different company name.
    I Just bought mines too today? Are we getting it through Mail? I found it kinda odd that they wanted our Shipping address with the Billing address. I thought it was an ebook?

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    My review of The Routines Manual:

    I have read all 199 pages of the manual. It's pretty good. The price is a little steep, but still worth purchasing. I have to say that a lot of the routines do not work for me. I'm not saying none of the routines work certainly there are some that I will use in field.
    The book talks a lot about congruence. I believe to be successful you really do have to use routines that match your personality. A lot of the routines presented in the book do not match my personality. You really shouldn't pretend to be someone you're not.
    I think the book is great at giving one a perspective on how to create routines. It lays out the foundation for creating routines in a step by step method. The examples in the book really allow one to see how a routine should flow thru the different phases of the mystery method (opening, attraction, comfort, etc).
    In the end I think creating your own routines is the better route to go. Reading the book definitely stimulated the creative process for me. I already have several routines flowing through my head as I write this. I will certainly test the routines that I've created in field, and wil post the results. I also will share my routines if they are successful after microcalibration in field.

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    This is a really sick book just finished it, but honestly if you're not congruent with what you say this stuff will hurt you more then it helps. This book almost exemplifies the fake it till you make it slogan because it gives you routines that actually work so you will be successful and gain confidence and approach more girls and use them more and more until you started molding them to you as a person and creating your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldmansachs View Post
    This is a really sick book just finished it, but honestly if you're not congruent with what you say this stuff will hurt you more then it helps.
    For a lot of people in the community, I suspect the only thing they can be 'congruent' with, is wanking to net porn. Approaching will be incongruent. Talking to a girl will be incongruent.
    So congruence is an argument for the trash can.

    Good job Savoy.

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    The Love Systems site is the place to buy the Routines Book.

    It is Savoy's newly developing brand and will be the only place to buy the Routines Book.

    www.lovesystems.com

    It's safe and is the official site for the product.

    Just wanted to clear that up.
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    Excellent. Thanks guys. I'm going to buy my copy tomorrow.
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    Just bought a copy..
    1 question tho.. i noticed on alot of the openers theirs no time constraint and a sorta set up like

    Hey guys, i can only stay a minute but i want your opinion on something, blah blah..

    Instead its just Hey guys, Blah blah..

    Are we supposed to add in the time constrain ourselves and the other bit?

    Seems a bit weird to walk up to a group of strangers and say.. Hey guys, i just got in a fight.. etc? lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philkills View Post
    i'd be very wary of this.. the people who are appraising this site only registered a few days ago...

    And they want shipping and billing addresses??? wtf??

    Sounds to me to be a identity theft/ CC Fraud site.. beware.. unless savoy or another mod recommends this site.. i'd personally stay well clear ;-)


    It's legitimate. I bought the ebook from this site and if you go to Savoys blog it directs you to lovesystems.com. So it is legit.

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    Use the routines manual in conjunction with the mystery method or magic bullets book. Build your game from the ideas presented. Do not use it as a memorizied script. If you're a f*cking great actor you can probably get away with memorizing it like a script. If you're not a gifted actor than you'll get burned every time because you won't seem genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philkills View Post
    Just bought a copy..
    1 question tho.. i noticed on alot of the openers theirs no time constraint and a sorta set up like

    Hey guys, i can only stay a minute but i want your opinion on something, blah blah..

    Instead its just Hey guys, Blah blah..

    Are we supposed to add in the time constrain ourselves and the other bit?

    Seems a bit weird to walk up to a group of strangers and say.. Hey guys, i just got in a fight.. etc? lol?
    As a rule, always use your judgement and instincts and DO NOT deliver anything like a robot reading a script.

    In every set, you will throw in time contraints, negs, improvised jokes and whatever else you feel is appropriate, AROUND the structure of the routine. The script is not gospel. It is an example for you to follow and work off of.

    So, yes, depending on what seems natural, you can add, change or go off script as you feel appropriate. Follow your instincts.
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    When you read the book, memorize the routines as BULLET POINTS. Not just word for word. Meaning remember the important ideas and deliver it as a set of ideas, not just a monologue.

    The verbiage we use in the book is what we feel is the strongest in terms of brevity and presentation but it is fine to make changes according to what you feel is congruent and natural to you.

    It's the IDEAS that are important more than the words...

    Enjoy!
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    wow, the book is very well established. this is the first product i purchased from the site that i'm actually really impressed by, well done. it was worth every penny. i was wondering if any of these routines were created by style or mystery. some of the more universal routines were introduced by them that were also contained in the book like the spin move and the variation of eye axces and cues, i was wondering if they were the originators of it by any chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    Glad you guys like the book. We put a lot of work into developing it. I think it will prove worth the wait.

    One of the main objectives Savoy and I had was to not only supply a large source of good routines, which the book certainly does, but also to provide a model of archetypal routines in the various categories; Transitions, Roleplays, Comfort Building, etc... So that people can develop their OWN versions after seeing what good routines look and sound like.

    Used properly, it should help you invent your own good material as much as use the material that is included. It serves BOTH purposes.

    In my (totally unbiased opinion it is the most useful, actionable product in the community.

    Enjoy!
    It's damn close. I'm a musician and a sales person, who works on a sales floor. Musicians trade licks, and sales people trade lines for specific situations, but what makes it work is they know how to deliver those licks, which you can't get very well just by reading (sheet music, or words), and you have to have a context for it. The more foreign the lick, or tactic/line is to what you normally do, the longer it will take for you to either learn to use it, or the more you need to see it used by other people before you can learn to use it yourself. For me the Mind Of Mystery DVDs were essential, along with the PU101 Spycam/Bodylanguage/Kino/Charismatic Conversations DVDs, because you could see infield footage, and then see the body language broken down and/or displayed very clearly. Body language, voice tone, clothes, that's 93% of communication. Seeing it all put together in infield footage gives the context for the individual stuff.

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    How the hell do you save this?

    Cheers

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    i must say im impressed by this !!

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    Is there any way of reading this offline?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfservice View Post
    How the hell do you save this?
    There's a Save A Copy icon on the tool bar of Adobe Reader that you can use to save a local copy, which you can then read offline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    It's damn close. I'm a musician and a sales person, who works on a sales floor. Musicians trade licks, and sales people trade lines for specific situations, but what makes it work is they know how to deliver those licks, which you can't get very well just by reading (sheet music, or words), and you have to have a context for it. The more foreign the lick, or tactic/line is to what you normally do, the longer it will take for you to either learn to use it, or the more you need to see it used by other people before you can learn to use it yourself. For me the Mind Of Mystery DVDs were essential, along with the PU101 Spycam/Bodylanguage/Kino/Charismatic Conversations DVDs, because you could see infield footage, and then see the body language broken down and/or displayed very clearly. Body language, voice tone, clothes, that's 93% of communication. Seeing it all put together in infield footage gives the context for the individual stuff.
    Not to worry, Truth! For people who learn like you do, we've arranged to work with the folks at FastSeduction to produce a video companion to the routines manual. Click here: www.artofthepickup.com/routinesbook
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfservice View Post
    Is there any way of reading this offline?

    Thanks
    right click the download link and save target as

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    you guys are fucking geniuses! I wish I thought of shit like this before.

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    Now saved (thanks guys). However it is unreadable on apple mac. Apart from a few words here & there its all random characters i guess its a font thing.

    Any ideas, thanks.

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    Are there any ways i can buy this routines book with a SOLO (UK debit card)?

    I do not have a major credit card like Visa or Mastercard.

    Also, does the book not work on apple mac?
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    what's up guys..

    I REALLY want to buy this routines book, but I don't have a international credit card (I don't live in US)

    how could I buy this ebook?

    thanks

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    Email customerservice@lovesystems.com and they will help you. I assume you've already tried just ordering it directly through the website?
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    All I know this is some good shit. I wouldn't be able to grasp it as well without taking the bootcamp. I actually wish this was available to bootcampers only.

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    Pretty good stuff, especially for people who have already read some other good materials, like "Magic Bullet" ,and need to be sure they´ll never run out of things to say in field.

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    I hope it at least stays available for another week or two so I can pick it up. So far I havent seen anyone say its not worth the money. Always a good sign!

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    i want this so bad. you guys take paypal?

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    Buy The Routines Manual! Just Do It!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron AO View Post
    i want this so bad. you guys take paypal?
    Mail customerservice@lovesystems.com and ask them about Paypal. You may be able to mail a check in or something if you don't have a credit card. Email and see.
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    What's a brother gotta do to get the Bookmark easy navigation page on the lefthand side (like in Magic Bullets)?

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    I am slowly but surely going through this pot of gold and taking things that work for me out and changing them to suit my style.

    Keep up the great work guys.
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    LOL!

    I got the book yesterday, used paypal. Actually I had to create an account and buy credits from a friend, since I don't have a international credit card (I don't live in US). BTW, great costumer service

    what can I say about the book...man, it's totally what I was looking for! The book is full of great routines (and you know they work!) and allows you to modify/create your own routines, to be even more congruent with your identity.

    and congruence is essential with this routines, I can say now that Brad P. is really not my style, although his routines are very nice indeed, just not my type. On the other hand, sinn's and cap. jack's routines fit me like a glove.

    I am from Brazil, and I must say, magic bullets (read it last year) and now routines manual put me YEARS ahead the competition, it's ridiculous. I have this great advantage that in Brazil only a few people ever heard of mystery method, savoy, magic bullets, etc, and even fewer people practice the game, at least for now.

    The book was quite expensive for me (US$1 = R$1,80) but I don't regret, it was worth every penny.

    if magic bullets is the foundations of the game (and you must master the foundations), the routines manual is definetely the structure. Now I have a much better game plan

    thank you love systems!
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    Wednesday, January 16, at 7pm PST! (GMT - 8, or 10pm EST)

    Reminder that The Don and I are hosting a free conference call / teleseminar on routines and the Love Systems' Routines Manual.

    Email us your questions in advance (Savoy@LoveSystems.com) so we can answer them on the show!

    To be part of the call, phone (512) 879-2032 and enter access code 136180#

    Again. Wednesday, January 16, at 7pm PST.
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    1 - Read the Magic Bullets Handbook - it's the bible of the Love Systems community, answers 90% of the questions here, and saves you years of time re-inventing the wheel.
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    savoy savoy

    its been really distroying me that i can not purchase the routines manual i actually cant sleep (which is kind of fucked up, should get that checked out) because i dont have a credit card. im an aussie living in london recently had my wallet stolen so i had to cancel most of my aussie cards. Is there any way i can pay with my visa debit card.

    cheers

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    Great product.
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    Why cant I see this on mac? Has anyone had the same problem or any sucess. Most of the characters are circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfservice View Post
    Why cant I see this on mac? Has anyone had the same problem or any sucess. Most of the characters are circles.
    Ya... It doesn't work on iPhone either
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfservice;
    Why cant I see this on mac? Has anyone had the same problem or any sucess. Most of the characters are circles.

    Do you have an older Mac? Mine's working fine bro.

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    I have to say this is by far the best product that I have ever seen! I have been writing my own custom routines after reading the create your own routines section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Do you have an older Mac? Mine's working fine bro.
    No it's an intel mac. You cannot read pdf's on iphone....yet.

    I get a message stating that a temp font cannot be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfservice View Post
    No it's an intel mac. You cannot read pdf's on iphone....yet.

    Hmmm... I should probably tell my pdfs to stop working on my phone then

    PDF's download just fine to the iphone via email or www.readdle.com - The routines manual is the only thing I have run across that won't read.

    This has been a public service announcement from PBS (thePriest Broadcasting Service)...

    Deuces

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    Will the Routines Manual be updated from time to time? And if so will that update be freely available to those who've purchased the first version or will it be a new charge?

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    Dude? Use the manual to up your game. Use the manual as a guide, but eventually you should create or have your own unique routine. As for updates. You should be the one providing the updates. All the other guys should be the ones to provide the updates. Use the manual to create your own routines then share.

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    Savoy mentioned on the teleseminar that there will probably not be updates to it. They might eventually come out with a "Rountines Manual II" sometime in the distant future but they dont want it to be like Magic Bullets with newer versions coming out every few months or so. But it is definitely worth the money and helps you to create your own material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spy View Post
    Will the Routines Manual be updated from time to time? And if so will that update be freely available to those who've purchased the first version or will it be a new charge?
    I am in the process of fleshing out a new second Volume with all new material... May be a few months though. Any suggestions for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I am in the process of fleshing out a new second Volume with all new material... May be a few months though. Any suggestions for it?


    Put as much stuff in there as possible from Braddock. I heard that Hugh Hefner's life is loosely based around the life of Braddock. Is that true? I also heard he puts his pants on two legs at a time. Is this also true?
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    I read Braddock can AMOG Chuck Norris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddock View Post
    Put as much stuff in there as possible from Braddock. I heard that Hugh Hefner's life is loosely based around the life of Braddock. Is that true? I also heard he puts his pants on two legs at a time. Is this also true?
    It is all true... It's amazing.

    And it's despite the fact that he has one of the most devastating cases of microphallus the doctors have ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philkills View Post
    Just bought a copy..
    1 question tho.. i noticed on alot of the openers theirs no time constraint and a sorta set up like

    Hey guys, i can only stay a minute but i want your opinion on something, blah blah..

    Instead its just Hey guys, Blah blah..

    Are we supposed to add in the time constrain ourselves and the other bit?

    Seems a bit weird to walk up to a group of strangers and say.. Hey guys, i just got in a fight.. etc? lol?
    You are not supposed to parret someone else, say it in your own words

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    One a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, I would give the manual
    a 6.5, maybe a 7. I just finished reading the whole thing. My gut level reaction was that there was not that much new material. A lot of the material has been covered in other products or is on the lounge already. For those of you who are newbies, or don't have lounge access, you may like it more.

    There is some good new stuff from Future, Braddock, and a few others, but not that much new material. The type was huge.

    The section on creating your own routines and stories was good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajny View Post
    One a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, I would give the manual
    a 6.5, maybe a 7. I just finished reading the whole thing. My gut level reaction was that there was not that much new material. A lot of the material has been covered in other products or is on the lounge already. For those of you who are newbies, or don't have lounge access, you may like it more.

    There is some good new stuff from Future, Braddock, and a few others, but not that much new material. The type was huge.

    The section on creating your own routines and stories was good.
    AJ

    I would agree with your statement. It's still good though, but I'm a little ticked off that there may be a 2nd installment of the routines manual. I'm ticked off because it may also cost another $100. That's bs. I think if a routines manual II is going to be made it should be given to purchasers of the first routines manual at a significant discounted price. I don't plan on buying the routines manual number 2. Number one helps out plenty, and I plan on creating my own routines. However, I don't like seeing other guys constantly having to shell out hard earned cash.

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    Highlight the attraction switches each routine hits

    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    I am in the process of fleshing out a new second Volume with all new material... May be a few months though. Any suggestions for it?
    In the Attraction section, could you list which attraction switches each routine hits? I don't want analysis, but I would like a listing. Breaking it down by the 8 attraction switches in Magic Bullets, as well as Preselected, Leader of Men, Protector of Loved Ones, willing to walk away, and willing to emote (probably done by the way you tell the story) would be really helpful. I didn't see any routines for health, wealth, and only one for status/leader, which was BradP's director game.

    I know the routines are supposed to be generic enough to be used by anyone, which make leader of men and protector of loved ones stories a little more difficult, but having some examples would be nice. Something else that would help is providing fully written routines, and then the bullet point versions right below. Also, do guys use false time constraints with direct openers when they're in clubs/bars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    In the Attraction section, could you list which attraction switches each routine hits? I don't want analysis, but I would like a listing. Breaking it down by the 8 attraction switches in Magic Bullets, as well as Preselected, Leader of Men, Protector of Loved Ones, willing to walk away, and willing to emote (probably done by the way you tell the story) would be really helpful. I didn't see any routines for health, wealth, and only one for status/leader, which was BradP's director game.

    I know the routines are supposed to be generic enough to be used by anyone, which make leader of men and protector of loved ones stories a little more difficult, but having some examples would be nice. Something else that would help is providing fully written routines, and then the bullet point versions right below. Also, do guys use false time constraints with direct openers when they're in clubs/bars?

    The material in the routines book ideally can be used by anyone and will work regardless of your personal strenghs and weaknesses. Therefore, they mainly hit the switches of Social Intuition and Humor which are universally acheivable for anyone with some practice regardless of any lifestyle limitations with smatterings of the other switches.

    A lot of the Attraction switches you are mentioning above are going to be hit with personal stories and embedded information which is why we included the MB storytelling section at the end. Protector of LO, Leader of Men, establishing status, etc... and all of that requires embedding information that is generally personal and unique to you within the framework of something interesting... That's the right way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truth View Post
    In the Attraction section, could you list which attraction switches each routine hits? I don't want analysis, but I would like a listing. Breaking it down by the 8 attraction switches in Magic Bullets, as well as Preselected, Leader of Men, Protector of Loved Ones, willing to walk away, and willing to emote (probably done by the way you tell the story) would be really helpful. I didn't see any routines for health, wealth, and only one for status/leader, which was BradP's director game.

    I know the routines are supposed to be generic enough to be used by anyone, which make leader of men and protector of loved ones stories a little more difficult, but having some examples would be nice. Something else that would help is providing fully written routines, and then the bullet point versions right below. Also, do guys use false time constraints with direct openers when they're in clubs/bars?


    You're right....a lot of the things you are talking about are done with storytelling. More specifically they are done in the comfort phase. Based on the fact that they are communicated during the comfort phase it would not make sense to type them into the routines book. Why? Because everyone's comfort routines are different and specific to them. Comfort routines can't be contrived because eventually you will be exposed.

    Second, you want these routines to be about you. So to type up our comfort stories would not be advantageous to you on any level.

    When you develop your comfort routines just make sure they literally happened to you and pick stories from your life that either hit or at minimum don't negate the attraction switches. Self deprecating stories that are funny, but sub communicate that you are a pussy or not a worthy partner are counterproductive.


    Hope this helps


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    Pretty ecstatic that we AFC's get one more then to improve our game exponentially. Gotta get the book!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    It is all true... It's amazing.

    And it's despite the fact that he has one of the most devastating cases of microphallus the doctors have ever seen.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    Just got this book.. Brilliant!

    I was always stuck with the thought of using openers and routines that would be widely known to all because of the sudden boom of the PUA world. I can honestly say that fear is gone. This manual has so many routines you can use and it is a good base of inspiration if you wish to create an arsenal of your own.


    It has routines which connect to other routines in the different phases of the model and has things from very short routines to very long ones. They even have routines for that horrible sittuation you always find yourself in: The Club That Was Too Loud To Sarge In! They have perfect routines for every sittuation!!

    GO AND GET THIS BOOK!! I LOVE IT!
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    Thanks for all of the positive feedback guys. A lot of work went into putting the book together and I'm glad it has been so well received.

    It seems like we hit the just the right niche where people wanted some help.



    PS - I am considering putting together a new, addtional, more advanced Volume -- Advanced Routines and Tactics. It will probably be a while since we're starting from scratch again but if you have any suggestions for sections and areas you'd like to see in there, let me know...
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    first of all, to get this outa the way... i suppor and endorse love systems/mm products, read books, tapes, audios, videos, the whole deal... but... this is fucked up. I mean, Mystery himself supports the use of routines saying "even naturals use routines/they can be refined and perfected", etc. I already know the 200000 trillion arguments defending the use of routines and I use some myself but dude, this is fucked up! A whole book to learn routines and learn how to make routines... its to scientifical and analitical... this is fucking meeting and attracting women, not becoming the best actor at delivering materials and managing congruency... I know, I know... "this just helps you develop your natural attractive side, it supports you to create your own routines" BULLSHIT MAN. This teaches you how to become a great performing artist at telling routines that convey you as a high value person (the use of specific routines alone conveys that you are NOT a high value person, you need to show it, altough embeded welll cause the low vale people dont embed well and show off). Dont get me wrong, whenever something high value or of the sort happens to me I note it down in my head as a potential thread to run with a set and refine it (a routine, naturally). But this is done in a simple fashion, just noting and repeting the story, perhaps with specific details. Magic bullets teachs this and storytelling. But a book 199 pages long just of routines? WTF fellows... what happened, when did love, self-improvement, transformed into an analitical science where the variables and practical experiments must be read and repetaed by the great artists. Lets face it... most people wont create their own routines... they will use this, use use use... till they get tired and create their own, they didnt buy it as examples... they bought them to use them! Not everybody is a saint guys... and on top of all now im going to get bashed with the "the sin is in the user not in the tools"... saying its everybody responsability to use em... but you cant blame people of using something you are giving to them... if you offer them a magic pill (this is a magic pill guys... i know you have to practice... but they are practically taking the effort of the game... whats next, a robot that hooks them up for you and you fuck em?) they will take it!

    I went to far off with this thread... just think about it guys... i really endorse everything being built here, but dont turn it into something its not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    PS - I am considering putting together a new, addtional, more advanced Volume -- Advanced Routines and Tactics. It will probably be a while since we're starting from scratch again but if you have any suggestions for sections and areas you'd like to see in there, let me know...
    Advanced topics: AMOG topics (honestly, Tyler Durden's are the best), external and internal interrupts, and the stuff that would be built off the various seminars: Day Game, Strippers, Hired Guns, Breakthrough Comfort, Same Night Lays, Threesomes. Braddock is creating posts of text game for different scenarios/relationships. That creates a problem because it might be like giving the seminar away for free. Perhaps you could just send the corresponding routine manual to people who have attended the particular seminar or bought the appropriate DVD set. I know I'd appreciate that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joacopaz View Post
    (the use of specific routines alone conveys that you are NOT a high value person, you need to show it, altough embeded welll cause the low vale people dont embed well and show off). Dont get me wrong, whenever something high value or of the sort happens to me I note it down in my head as a potential thread to run with a set and refine it (a routine, naturally).

    what happened, when did love, self-improvement, transformed into an analitical science where the variables and practical experiments must be read and repetaed by the great artists.

    Lets face it... most people wont create their own routines... they will use this, use use use... till they get tired and create their own, they didnt buy it as examples... they bought them to use them!

    if you offer them a magic pill (this is a magic pill guys... i know you have to practice... but they are practically taking the effort of the game... whats next, a robot that hooks them up for you and you fuck em?) they will take it!

    I went to far off with this thread... just think about it guys... i really endorse everything being built here, but dont turn it into something its not.
    In your own post you pointed out that most people will create their own routines once they get tired of the ones in the book. Solves the problem, doesn't it? Also helps solve the original problem, that most people don't embed well. Run those routines a bunch of times, and you get a feel for it. What's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joacopaz View Post
    first of all, to get this outa the way... i suppor and endorse love systems/mm products, read books, tapes, audios, videos, the whole deal... but... this is fucked up. I mean, Mystery himself supports the use of routines saying "even naturals use routines/they can be refined and perfected", etc. I already know the 200000 trillion arguments defending the use of routines and I use some myself but dude, this is fucked up! A whole book to learn routines and learn how to make routines... its to scientifical and analitical... this is fucking meeting and attracting women, not becoming the best actor at delivering materials and managing congruency... I know, I know... "this just helps you develop your natural attractive side, it supports you to create your own routines" BULLSHIT MAN. This teaches you how to become a great performing artist at telling routines that convey you as a high value person (the use of specific routines alone conveys that you are NOT a high value person, you need to show it, altough embeded welll cause the low vale people dont embed well and show off). Dont get me wrong, whenever something high value or of the sort happens to me I note it down in my head as a potential thread to run with a set and refine it (a routine, naturally). But this is done in a simple fashion, just noting and repeting the story, perhaps with specific details. Magic bullets teachs this and storytelling. But a book 199 pages long just of routines? WTF fellows... what happened, when did love, self-improvement, transformed into an analitical science where the variables and practical experiments must be read and repetaed by the great artists. Lets face it... most people wont create their own routines... they will use this, use use use... till they get tired and create their own, they didnt buy it as examples... they bought them to use them! Not everybody is a saint guys... and on top of all now im going to get bashed with the "the sin is in the user not in the tools"... saying its everybody responsability to use em... but you cant blame people of using something you are giving to them... if you offer them a magic pill (this is a magic pill guys... i know you have to practice... but they are practically taking the effort of the game... whats next, a robot that hooks them up for you and you fuck em?) they will take it!

    I went to far off with this thread... just think about it guys... i really endorse everything being built here, but dont turn it into something its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joacopaz View Post
    first of all, to get this outa the way... i suppor and endorse love systems/mm products, read books, tapes, audios, videos, the whole deal... but... this is fucked up.
    Relax, man. Nowhere in this book does it say people should be robots and just use routines.

    We went out of our way to say routines have their place and shouldn't be used all or even the majority of the time... But they do have their place. You admit using them sometimes. Nothing has changed. It's a specialty product focusing on this one, very important, aspect of game. Not a change of how to game.

    And given the emails I've been receiving about how much it has helped people get better results it very clearly helps accelerate people's learning curve in this area. I think your suggestion that people go back to floundering around on their own is off the mark. We simply condensed a lot of wisdom on this one area of game into 199 pages. But the overall map of how to game is still the same.

    Seriously. Relax. Get a hobby.
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    I just bought it and to tell you the truth...it is fucking amazing good job guys really absolutely brilliant really really good stuff.
    This is the story of a Champion. Show me what it takes to be number one.
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    I was initially disapointed with the RM.But after trying some of the material in the field it dawned on me that this stuff just has to be implememnted right and the results were eye opening for myself.I feel ya though, I was expecting the fully written routines not just some snidbits of them.
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    My routine manuals book review

    just recently bought this book and only half way through, and thought i'd give you my review so far.

    I give this book a 8-10 for the information thats in it.
    I give this 2-10 for the price of the information, most of the stuff that i've
    currently read you can get 4 free, like they say in the book, sorry guys for the negetive feedback, but i think its good for you guys to get negetive and positive feedback from your products.

    I've gotten a few good openers and transitions from it so far that i have'nt seen b4.

    I recon you guys should make it half the price of what it is now and increase the price of magic bullets as that's one kick ass book and worth every penny. But the Routine manual i don't beleive is worth $100 something like $60 would be a better price.

    I'll post back once i finish reading it.
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    Do not use the routines from the Routines Manual unless you plan on getting laid!

    I have read every pick up book I can get my hands on and the Routines Manual is the book that has taken my game from intermediate to advanced. I started out by using the routines almost word for word, and they worked 95% of the time. I couldn’t believe it, just walking up to a group of girls and spouting out a routine I thought would never fly, and have them burst out laughing and asking me all sorts of questions.

    The manual not only teaches you proven routines, but how to deliver them and how to right your own. I have now adapted my favorite routines from the book and written many routines in a similar style.

    I used to always go out with a wingman to pick up girls. Now I am perfectly comfortable going out to bars and clubs on my own and I know I will mingle with beautiful women and not look like a loner. This material has changed my social life forever.

    Do not buy this book if you are new to pick up. The material is too powerful and you won’t know what to do after getting the girl’s attention. This book should only be used by intermediate PUAs (want to change from beginner to intermediate PUA? buy Magic Bullets first).

    Some of you might think $99 is a lot for a book. But the Routines Manual guarantees results. Compare that to spending $80 on a shirt that probably won’t get you laid and you will see the value!

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    Casting Call - Routines Manual II

    So, Love Systems is looking for a few good routines for the sequel to the much praised, long awaited Routines Manual released last year. See YOUR original routines included with the best of the best created by Love Systems and dating science instructors such as Savoy, The Don, Braddock, Mr. M, Brad. P., LBD and others...

    The Love Systems Routines Manual quickly became the gold standard reference book for learning how to use and create routines for use in pickup and seduction. Check out reviews of the book here.

    If you have innovative game and have created original, field tested routines that you think meet the high standards required to be included in the second volume of the series, we welcome you to submit them to The Don for review at thedon@lovesystems.com.

    If your routines are chosen to be included you will receive FREE copies of both Routines Manuals Vol. 1 and 2 and lifetime membership access to the members-only restricted Lounge.

    In addition, the routine judged to be the best by the Love Systems instructors will receive a free 45 minute phone consultation with The Don ($200 value) and will be considered for the Love Systems instructor training program.

    We look forward to hearing from you.
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    hey guys,

    is there any routines for day time in this book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sys View Post
    hey guys,

    is there any routines for day time in this book?
    Yes
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    I finished the routine manual now and I really liked it . However, how come you guys didn't mention false time constraints in the book? I try to do it both physically and verbal. I do it physically by body rocking and I do it verbally by saying "I have to back to my friends soon."

    Would this work?

    Opener.
    Time constraint
    Transition
    Attraction
    Qualification etc.
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    yea that sounds good, the only thing i would change is neg or some other form of disqualification during the opener and other than that, it sounds great.

    P.S. Your english is very good.

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    I flicked through the book im only after gettin it.looks very good.

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    Volume 2 is coming along great and will be even better than the first I think...

    Should be done in 2 weeks. Keep an eye out for the announcements.
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    Remember! We're considering raising the price of the Routines Manual to $199. If you want to get this truly great collection of routines and material for the current price of only $99 be sure and order now. I can't guarantee that we'll be selling it that cheap in the near future!
    Je fais du progrès.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savoy View Post
    Yes
    Well, the openers aren't really suited for day game I think, but the transition and attraction material is really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroesBeforeHoes View Post
    I finished the routine manual now and I really liked it . However, how come you guys didn't mention false time constraints in the book? I try to do it both physically and verbal. I do it physically by body rocking and I do it verbally by saying "I have to back to my friends soon."

    Would this work?

    Opener.
    Time constraint
    Transition
    Attraction
    Qualification etc.
    Its actually mentioned on the part about making your own openers. It gives an example with the email opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotfeet View Post
    Well, the openers aren't really suited for day game I think, but the transition and attraction material is really good.
    Volume II which should be done this week will have a whole section by Soul on Day Game and opening in various situations during the day -- street, cafe, subway, direct, indirect, etc...
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