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  1. Sorry, should've specified... when I say "you" I mean the general "You", not you specifically.

    And I agree... the explanation of this "Taking Risks" attraction switch needs to be clear. In fact, I'm not sure I'd call it "Taking Risks". It could be renamed to Adventurous or Fearless (might be too strong), Brave, Courageous, or something else. All of those things imply that risks are begin taken.



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    Dumb risk taking isn't my thing... I value being able to stand, walk upright, and being able to chew solid foods.

    There's a very thin line... from being a "risk" taker, and being a hooligan/anarchist.


    These dudes from Jackass being mentioned... they constantly get laid because they're famous, and on the tv. Pure and simple... I'm willing to bet that none of them have game. Well, Johnny Knoxville probably does, and Bam's been in a LTR for who knows how long. All the other cats? Nah.

    IMO

    Marilyn Manson once said, "If you act like a rockstar, you'll be treated like a rockstar"... I'll go with that notion, instead of running into a wall or breaking and entering....

    It might be age, but been there done that. blah!

    IMO


    Great thread Tenmagnet!


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    Exactly. the switch is flipped for them because they have a lens watching their antics (which, out of the lens's view, there's trained medical staff and someone with 911 entered into their phone, ready to push send if someone gets messed up. There's also legal waivers, and what not), not because they sped down a hill in a grocery cart.
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  6. One thing that's been neglected to mention is how subjective the definition of risk taking is. Just one example: the vast majority of people fear public speaking. They'd probably rather walk on fire than attempt it. I have no problem with it, and enjoy it. I see very little 'risk' involved.

    Why try to guess what your 'target' or a percentage of targets will find risky, then attempt it solely to impress these hypothetical targets? Quality of life is created by pursuing your passions. Your enthusiasm will flow naturally and shine through, regardless of whether you are viewed as a 'risk taker' or not.

    Live for yourself first. This whole notion of risk taking to get laid implies that you do things to impress others, especially girls, especially girls in bars and clubs, primarily for the purpose of getting laid. I do things because I am passionate about the activities I'm involved in.

    PS: Tenmagnet, how are you defining risk taking exactly? Let's take rock musicians for example. I see very little risk involved in such an activity. You stand on stage strumming a guitar or singing. You practice in a garage or studio. There's zero physical risk involved. Also, there seems to be little if any financial risk involved. Most acts play at night and therefore musicians are free to work full or part time during the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Showgun View Post
    And I agree... the explanation of this "Taking Risks" attraction switch needs to be clear. In fact, I'm not sure I'd call it "Taking Risks". It could be renamed to Adventurous or Fearless (might be too strong), Brave, Courageous, or something else. All of those things imply that risks are begin taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamm411 View Post
    One thing that's been neglected to mention is how subjective the definition of risk taking is. Just one example: the vast majority of people fear public speaking. They'd probably rather walk on fire than attempt it. I have no problem with it, and enjoy it. I see very little 'risk' involved.

    Why try to guess what your 'target' or a percentage of targets will find risky, then attempt it solely to impress these hypothetical targets? Quality of life is created by pursuing your passions. Your enthusiasm will flow naturally and shine through, regardless of whether you are viewed as a 'risk taker' or not.

    Live for yourself first. This whole notion of risk taking to get laid implies that you do things to impress others, especially girls, especially girls in bars and clubs, primarily for the purpose of getting laid. I do things because I am passionate about the activities I'm involved in.

    PS: Tenmagnet, how are you defining risk taking exactly? Let's take rock musicians for example. I see very little risk involved in such an activity. You stand on stage strumming a guitar or singing. You practice in a garage or studio. There's zero physical risk involved. Also, there seems to be little if any financial risk involved. Most acts play at night and therefore musicians are free to work full or part time during the day.
    Check out this study for some interesting findings:

    http://www.uiowa.edu/~grpproc/crisp/crisp.9.10.html

    Women were more selective than men in all contexts. Men and women preferred risk takers as friends and short-term romantic partners but only women preferred risk takers as long-term romantic partners.
    This quote also caught my eye. An interesting take on how peacocking might actually also convey a risk-taking attitude:

    Zahavi points to the example of peacocks' tails, the size and the conspicuous patterning of which, simultaneously make peacocks more attractive to peahens but also put them at greater risk of predation. The detrimental feature of peacocks' tails persisted because peahens preferred to mate with peacocks possessing such traits. This preference, it is suggested, reflects the fact that only the highest quality peacocks could afford to have such a handicapping feature.
    Misc. comments on the rest of your post:

    What if a 27-year old virgin's passions involve online video games and star wars movies, but he really wants to get laid and become a PUA? Would you tell him to just be himself, live for himself first, and keep doing what he has always done because he is passionate about those activities? I would tell him to cultivate a lifestyle that women actually want to be a part of - and that probably entails some level of risk-taking.

    As for rock musicians: actually agressively pursuing a dream of becoming a famous musician entails some risk (and just as importantly, it shows you are ambitious). To become a famous rock musician, you would have to forgoe the safer opportunities of getting a 9-5 job and having a secure income. (Let's not forget that the stereotype of rock musicians is that they are exciting risk-takers. Putting yourself in a group with that type of stereotype will pre-validate you as a risk-taker until you prove otherwise.)
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    I agree with the point of this post which is women find risk taking attractive and that you should take some risks to push yourself out of your comfort zone.
    However I think some of the examples were bad and thats what all the negative replies are about. Risk is a very subjective topic and people are going to disagree on its degree.

    Keep in mind , some things that appear risky are not risky at all. Some people think I'm taking risks by backpacking for days through mountains which are home to hundreds of bears and some mountain lions when actually driving to mountains poses a greater risk.

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  13. i agree with ten mag...taking risks, even some of the "stupid ones" is attractive. it shows a certain sense of adventure, confidence, and self assuredness to act as you will just for the sake of the experience. its like some sort of wildcard zen mojo. it works on "mature" broads too, so long as they have a sense of humor and you aren't a complete asshole.

    jumping into the trevi fountain and getting pulled out by 20 machine gun carrying caribinieri was probably not one of the brighter things i've done, but people love the story and the pictures are priceless. i didn't do it for the story though, it's just in my nature to act as i will. (the peroni's didn't hurt either) it shows something about my personallity that people respond to--perhaps its a flagrant disregard for authority or a sense of humor, i don't know, but they find it terribly interesting and have me tell the story to their friends.

    good luck and take care,

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    this opened my eyes WIDELY!..the funny thing is that what Ten mentioned about the rist taking is ive done all those...eat indian food...well, cause im indian..lol...break into buildings...haah..memories..fun times...do jackass like stunts..being loud in a neighbourhood..or anywhere..in a public, jumping off a 50 foot cliff into a lake....driving really fast...its in my nature now...STORY TIME!...3 of us were in brand new company cars and decided to race to a location where we had to go..now all 3 of us started racing like maniacs down 50Km streets doing 150-170 km/h on these streets with traffic lights, sharp ass turns, construction and traffic...now everyone that we had passed by..we met at the red traffic lights...other people with their girlfriend in there cars started looking over at us and giving us smiles so there male companion started racing us...and it was 7 of us that started racing because of three random guys racing lol...and not all of them had girls in the cars...I could explain it alot better, but i don't like to right much and i don't want to brag to much..i just wanted to say it cause it was the most adrenaline rush in my life...everything needed perfection...it was a moment in my life i'll never forget....you just had to be there to understand it and experience it. It was reality video game..but anyways..i just want to agree with tenmagnet that girls are attracted to Risky guys..not the stupid ones that are wanna be's..and end up crashing the first time they put the metal to the pedal..it fits into the badboy adventorous rebel...yes its attractive to women...but i also have to agree with adam..that this isn't for everyguy or every guy should be a risk taker, there just not ment to fit that life style...i personally know a family member that is against all these things and you could consider him a pussy..but he still can attract women cause of his congruency and his alpha characteristics...but yeah the risk takers usually bring out the sexual excitement in women, and will end up doing the non risk takers girlfriend ...ive been told by women im crazy for a 20 year old...and no, im not a chik magnet..although i can attract alot of girls but i could still consider myself a AFC at times....So i'll agree with Ten and Adam....they're both right...and cheez avenger, he probably isn't the risk taker but still can attract women, because it doesn't fit his lifestyle, so even if he was to do all those things, it wouldn't look right or somebody would tell him to stop before he hurts himself..sorry bro..i don't mean that in a bad way, you know what i mean...one more thing about how peacocking is also a risk taker...because i went to a Tiesto concert wearing a Tophat like Mystery...but the one i got is very COOL..and different type of a tophat...very mysterious you could say..now I went to a concert I had about 1 million eyes look at me, and the hottest girls in the club of 2000 people were coming up to me and complimenting me..the bartenders, I was the only one out of the 2000 people with a hat on...or atleast a top hat, some guys had there shirts off...but everytime i passed by the girls they were with...they would stare at me like the wanted to sex me there and then, maybe they were on drugs..my friends were telling me you could get so many girls that night..i had the most attention that night...it was scary, but still i ended up leaving with the same amount of phone numbers in my cell phone as i did when i came in...why??....AFC...not knowing how to COMMUNICATE..the most important thing even before a Risk Taker...so there you go...so in conclusion, what ever you do that attracts women do it, don't be a risk taker if it doesnt fit your life style..unless of course, your some nerd, who likes starwars and plays games all the time...although im meeting more women who play alot of video games and there HOT!!!...but still those guys need to loosen up...DAMNIT MAN...looking back...i just realized how much HB's i could of been with, i see how women love the badboys

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamm411 View Post
    That's a great study and I would be very interested in seeing more academic studies related to attraction and seduction.

    I think some of the 'risk taking' activities sound like fun activities which is why I would engage in them. Bungie jumping does sound fun, which is why I would try it. Mountain biking is fun, and fairly risky, but the fun aspect of it outweighs the risk. But as far as doing it with the idea of developing a dhv story to impress a broad in a bar...that sounds lame to me. Do things you find fun, exciting, worthwhile in and of themselves, not to impress people. I prefer not to subject myself to others' whims, but to each his own.
    I'm certainly not advocating doing things FOR women or merely FOR creating a DHV story to tell a random bar girl. I like to live my life to the fullest - which to me means a wealth of different experiences and a willingness to try anything under the sun (at least once). Others may be more conservative than myself, but I will still advocate to them that they should try new things that they are unsure if they will like or not and to step outside of their comfort zone. To me, taking risks is about having an exciting life; women are just the cherry on top (and I'm more than willing to give them experiences that they wouldn't otherwise be introduced to if they hadn't met me). There is nothing wrong with being more on the conservative side, but these guys shouldn't get angry when their girlfriend ditches them to have sex with me after sneaking into the skyboxes of a famous football stadium at night.

    You can find more studies if you search around a little. Try looking up info on "attraction" and "sensation seeking" also. Even though I've seen numerous studies, I don't need them to tell me what (in my eyes) is obvious. There is a certain appeal that women have towards "bad boys" and part of that appeal is that they are spontaneous risk-takers. There is something women enjoy about hopping on the back of a motorcycle, or stopping an elevator because you have to fuck her right that very moment, or sneaking onto a private beach to go skinny-dipping.

    Seriously, bottom line of this thread, if anyone argues that women, on a whole, aren't more attracted to risk-takers, they are a) delusional, possibly naive, or b) defensive because they live a more conservative lifestyle.
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  17. Esquire, this is a great discussion. Let me frame this discussion a bit. Risk taking can attract women. But women are only one of my priorities among many. Without going into a lot of detail, at this point in my life, there are only so many risks I can take. Now, if you are a professional pua, then you have a variety of options in terms of risk taking. If you are on a different career trajectory, as most of us are, you have to make some intelligent decisions.

    Women are important, or else we wouldn't be participating in this forum. But HOW important are they? I'm not willing to risk my career and my neck to maximize my lay count. There are other things which are more important in my life.

    But that's not really addressing the issue: girls like bad boys. Let me simply say I'm not a boy anymore, and my priorities dictate that I eschew some behaviors in favor of others. Sorry to be so vague, but I'm framing this discussion in terms of quality of life, not in terms of maximizing my lay count. Hopefully that makes sense.

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