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nice guy
01-2008-06, 06:27 AM
I am inviting you in my New Year's challenge. PM me or respond to the thread and we'll keep each other accountable.

90 Days. Nonstop.

Start: Monday, January 7, 2008
End: Sunday, April 6, 2008

This is an adaptation of Jeff Olson's philosophy on The Slight Edge. It is tailored to a Casanova Crew PUA Challenge.

The theme is - It's easy to do. And it's easy NOT to do.

It's a commitment. There is no reason why anyone cannot complete this 90 Day Challenge. No excuses.

Further Reference on The Slight Edge Philosophy (http://www.topachievement.com/slightedge.html)
(Edit: removed off site forum url and replaced with the source)

The challenge goes as follows...

1. Converse with 2 new people per day.
2. Write mini goals to accomplish for the day. Minimum 1.
3. Write 1 Line that you will try using.
4. Read 10 pages of a good book/day
5. Listen to 20 minutes of good audio/day
6. Play/Do a Hobby for 10 minutes/day.
7. Stretch and Exercise. Stretch in the morning, inside your bedroom. Do 1 push up.
8. Start a journal. Either on your computer or buy a composition notebook at Wal Mart for $1.


1. Meet 2 new people, everyday (or Sarge). Doesn't matter who. Doesn't matter what, how or where. Work on Social Dynamics and talk to 2 new people everyday.

If you find yourself at midnight without having met 2 new people, drive down to 7/11 to buy a pack of gum and chat up the store clerk and say Hello to a customer.


2. Write mini-goals. If you're in a rush, write them on a napkin on your way to work and keep it in your pocket. The goals should NOT be outcome oriented. "I will makeout with a girl tonight" is NOT the focus of this goal setting commitment. It needs to be do-able. Failsafe. Such as...

"I will open 3 sets."
"I will compliment a girl on something besides the obvious."
"I will open a mixed set."
"I will test a new line/routine."


3. Write 1 Line that you will try using. To become a well-balanced PUA, we need to experiment and try things. The gurus in this industry have practiced lines and routines for years upon years FOR US! TAKE ADVANTAGE! Who knows, you might actually find a line that fits your style perfectly and works successfully 100% of the time. You will never know until you try.


4. Read 10 pages of a good book a day. Some studies have shown...The average person who does not continue their education out of high school, is found to read only 2 books in the span of 10 years. Some with a college education will read only 2 books in the span of 5 years.

If you read 10 pages a day, with an average book ~200 pages, you will have read 4.5 books in 90 days. 18 books in a year. 90 books in 5 years. That's 45x more than a college grad.


5. 20 minutes of a good audio/day. Listen to it during your drive to work. In the Personal Development industry, they call it "Drive-time University."

Quit filling your head with music or radio commercials that fill your head with unproductive ideas. ESPECIALLY commercials. A vast majority of them are FEAR-BASED marketing techniques. Such as, "You have to buy this or else your life will suck." No wonder so many people live in fear. They need the magic pill in order to live a happy life. We know better.


6. Do a hobby. You're wondering why you run out of DHV stories or don't feel like an interesting person? I've definitely felt that. My hobbies as of right now are, Guitar and Internet. Guess what they were 5 years ago. Yeah, the same shit.

To grow into a better person, it may be wise to become a Worldly Individual. Experience new things. Pickup a new hobby. If you don't have one, find one. If you have one, exercise it at least 10 minutes per day.


7. Stretch and exercise. In the morning, do a full body stretch. This takes 2 minutes. Do it before or after you shower. Arms, legs, back, chest, neck, stomach. That's it. Then, do 1 push up. Why one push up? Because, it's easy to do, and it's easy not to do.

One of the most athletic people I know got to where he is because he committed to 1 push up per day. Usually, when he's down there doing his 1 push up, he would do more. Sometimes, he felt like shit, and only did 1 push up. At least he is doing the action and staying committed.


8. Start a journal. The journal is very simple. Record your activities. This also does not need to be complicated and difficult. Either use Notepad.exe on your computer or get a little notebook. Write the date on top and write #1-#7 on the page. And just write Yes or No by it before you sleep. You can add any details if you find it worth writing down.

Example:
01/07/2008
#1. Yes - James the 7/11 store clerk, Carl at the Mobil Gas Station.
#2. Yes - Complimented a girl on her shoes - Made up a handshake with a stranger
#3. Yes - Tried "We are soo not going to get along!"
#4. Yes - Read 16 pages of Think and Grow Rich, Napoleon Hill
#5. Yes - Listened to 20 minutes of RSD Foundations
#6. Yes - I played the guitar for 10 minutes. Learned to play Jack Johnson - Taylor
#7. Yes - Stretched in the morning. Did 7 push ups.


If you've found this after the 7th, you're still welcome to join in. Just make a 90 day commitment.

Lets keep each other accountable.

-niceguy

Milk
01-2008-06, 09:37 AM
this seems like way too much of a planning.
i think its better to take it a little bit more lose.

like for instance.
next 90 days i am gonna improve my opening and transition to make as good as i can. and talk to as many people i can, minimun 2 a day.

i think this is waytoo much, but good luck

upcoming_pua
01-2008-06, 11:43 AM
thts a nice planing though its a litl bit too much but i wil work on it, shouldnt b hard for me, i am at uni , so its quite easy to meet people :) ..thnks for the idea

silverghost
01-2008-06, 05:17 PM
Some people work 8 hours a day. Also u need like 8 hours sleep minimum. If you do all these when u have a bad day u ll probably screw it up so i think its better to have a plan on doing em but not force em. Otherwise as an idea i think its fantastic to have goals to work towards em. But goals shouldnt interfere with your pace on the day. For example say u have 8 hours free time. Open 2 sets its at least 40 minutes if u do it right. You need like 20-30 minutes to get ready. 10 minutes minimum to reach the venue u wanna go. 10 minutes this 10 minutes that it adds up pretty quick. Now what if you asked some girl for a date and she wants to spend 1-2 hours with u?
You see where i am going? Better put a goal, reach it, and then go on the next goal. Unless ofcourse of they are relative where u can reach 1-3 different goals.
Other than that Kudos for the post, shows me a man that wants to work towards his goals. Keep it up:)

nice guy
01-2008-06, 06:10 PM
Interesting responses. Personally, this 90 Day commitment was forged with the idea of simplicity and easy accomplishment. I wouldn't want to have someone be discouraged, so we'll break it down here.

1. Converse with 2 people. This doesn't mean go out sarging every single day. This means for you to simply talk to 2 people. Girls, guys, both. Doesn't matter. If you're going out to the grocery store, just say hello to the cashier, compliment him/her, then say thanks to the bagger and ask for his/her name.

You've just conversed with 2 people. How much time did it take? 1 minute while you're doing something anyways? You're keeping yourself in the conversing mode. Now you can say things like, "I meet new people everyday," and actually mean it.

2. Write 1 mini goal per day. Think of this in the shower or as you're getting ready in the morning. "What do I want to accomplish?" Something as simple as laundry or clean my place are good enough goals. You can also make them PU related if you're planning on sarging that night. Reason? Gets you in the habit of achieving goals.

3. Write 1 line. This forum has more than enough resources to allow this. Just look up Openers or Routines, jot one down, and try it out. 5 minutes.

4. Read 10 pages of Good Book. Average is 1 page per minute? Maybe 2 if you're not as fast. 20 minutes invested.

5. 20 Minutes of Good Audio. Hopefully this doesn't take you longer than 20 minutes ;) Also, you can save time if you listen to it on the way to work. Short ride? Listen to half on the way there, half on the way back.

6. Do a hobby for 10 minutes. Pick up your guitar, write poetry, sit on the piano, and have fun for 10 minutes.

7. Stretch in the morning. 3-5 minutes. 1 pushup. 1 minute or more if you decide to do more.

8. Journal entry. This is very simple. Shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes.

Total Time?
-Low End - If you're already out and about, have a 20 minute+ drive to work, shower in the morning, and a decent reader - ~30 minutes.
-High End - Work at home, shower at night, slow reader - ~1 hour or so.

Sure, we can add a few minutes here and there if you want. Such as, the time it takes to write down a goal/line for the day, picking out the CD to listen to, popping the CD into the deck, going out to buy a book, etc. However, I don't think we need to get too technical.

This also goes along with the idea that you do it WHILE you're doing other things. Instead of zoning out in the shower, think of a goal. Instead of looking at youtube videos, find a line to try. Instead of listening to the radio on the way to work, listen to a Love Systems Interview. And instead of getting your groceries and saying, "Thanks," try a banter line or compliment and ask for their name.

Subtle differences go a long way. Soon, we'll be doing PU while we're out, instead of going out to do PU.

Also, this is my Personal Commitment. Our lives are different and it's understandable if you find difficulty in one or more aspects of it. First off, you're not obligated to do it, and second, tailor it to your life! If you have no good books and you are dyslexic, don't read a book if it overwhelms you. The idea is to keep it simple enough to do...so that you will do it.

It's better to do 4 of the items with consistency, as opposed to 6 items and struggle with the 7th, then get frustrated and drop the whole thing 5 days in.

Just my .02 ;)

Pointblank
01-2008-06, 08:26 PM
This is a really great idea, I will join in! :)

Usually I only need a little kick in the butt to actually do something and since I've been gradually changing my whole life since the last month, this will be of even greater help to accomplish some of my long-term-goals.

Jenner
01-2008-06, 08:54 PM
ill try
and see how far i get
:)

Vulture629
01-2008-07, 12:11 AM
Also u need like 8 hours sleep minimum

Not true. If you maintain lots of energy throughout the day, by eating healthy, working out everyday, and doing those 8 things this guy is proposing (and I can think of two things right now to make it a solid 10) you won't need 8 hours of sleep. You'll only need 4 or 5 Cuz you will be productive-CONSTANTLY and consistently. Tony Robbins talks about it extensively in his book Unlimited Power.

The ppl who sleep 8-12 hours need it cuz they get bored and have nothing to do. They look like trash, have jobs they HATE (if they even have jobs), hardly read anything except porn, and basically become slaves to entertainment and smut. They not only don't do those 8 things the TC is talking about, they do the antithesis of them, it happened to me! Here's an example:

From September 2006 until August 2007 I stayed in the midwest, in a city where there was nothing but smokestacks and strip malls. In order to go to a target rich venue you would need to travel 100 miles to Louisville. The only available major jobs was either driving trucks, working factories, My dad had just died and he left behind some $$ so I decided not to get a job cuz I had $$ to pay for stuff. I would sleep in excess of SIXTEEN hours a day, only waking up to eat, go to bowling league, hang out with my buds or do laundry. But I did almost the opposite of those 7 things. So heres what I did:

1. Converse with 2 new people per day. Didn't do that. All I would do was hang out with the same 2 ppl all the time.
2. Write mini goals to accomplish for the day. Minimum 1. I did the COMPLETE OPPOSITE...think of a goal I had in the past and get down on myself for not achieving it.
3. Write 1 Line that you will try using. I just used the same lines over and over.
4. Read 10 pages of a good book/day. Oh I read...comic books and porn.
5. Listen to 20 minutes of good audio/day...listened to the same music, the same friggin songs, every day.
6. Play/Do a Hobby for 10 minutes/day. Whacking off counts right?
7. Stretch and Exercise. Stretch in the morning, inside your bedroom. Do 1 push up. Oh I would do this, but not every day. Try every week maybe.
8. Start a journal. Either on your computer or buy a composition notebook at Wal Mart for $1. Oh I had one...but all I did in it was write a bunch of emo BS.

If you do something like those 8 things every day, you will not want to stay up. You will actually WANT to sleep. Up until I left college I only got 4 or so hours or so of sleep. Why? Cuz I was actually doing stuff that made me more productive. I'm trying to get back in that habit now...

the main thing is this: ppl who get at least 8 hour sleep don't like being alive. They don't like the things they do. At all. EVER. 8 hour is 1/3 or an entire day!! Thats a lot, think of what you can do in those extra 3 or so hours. If your not productive your a sloth.

Here are the two things I'm adding to that challenge list btw.

9. Have a deep conversation with someone every week and make it last at least an hour. Could be someone you just met, a family member, or someone youve known for a while. This will develop your thinking skills and prevent you from pondering all the time, cuz your time for pondering will be in that 1-4 hours a week. The subject? Anything. Sarging, religion, politics, school, bands, anything.

10. That "new hobby" formed in #6? Do whatever you can to MASTER it. Combine this with reading something for 20 minutes a day and all of a sudden you are a GOD at it. And this is anything: Cooking, sports, guitar, writing, anything.

Vulture629
01-2008-07, 12:39 AM
here's what I'm gonna do tomorrow in regards to those goals. hopefully it will all fall into place but if not who cares...its better than I've been doing.

#1. Two ppl in each class, at work (if I'm on schedule), while in the financial aid office, and during bowling league (three classes + bowling league + financial aid office = 10 ppl.)
#2. Throw three games for practice before league, test 4 new opening lines
#3. Try these lines: "Law and order SVU or CSI?" "I love new york or A shot at love?" "Cat person or a dog person?" "Jimmy John's or Quiznos?"
#4. "Awaken the Giant within" by Tony Robbins
#5. Listen to a Bad Religion record that brings me back to really happy times in HS
#6. cook dinner after bowling league.
#7. Do 10 push ups before leaving the house
#8 = will put down whether or not I did these things and how good I did them while winding down (after bowling league)
9 = already did this yesterday. Will do this again when my other league starts next week (with the same guy I guess)
10 = Buy a cookbook that appeals to me.

nice guy
01-2008-07, 04:23 AM
HAHA Vulture629. Great sig ;)

nice guy
01-2008-07, 05:19 AM
Alright, it begins.

If you find this after the 7th, you can still join in. Just make sure it goes 90 days from when you start.

GL and lets keep each other in check.

-niceguy

deValmont
01-2008-07, 06:01 AM
Ok I'm going to join you though with a slightly different action plan:

- Point 7 Stretch and Excercise will also include grooming and taking care of my personal image in a regular basis (that is shaving, using creams, etc.).

- I'll add point 9 which is go out to a night club and sarge at least once a week.

Milk
01-2008-07, 11:26 AM
Also u need like 8 hours sleep minimum



The ppl who sleep 8-12 hours need it cuz they get bored and have nothing to do. They look like trash, have jobs they HATE (if they even have jobs), hardly read anything except porn, and basically become slaves to entertainment and smut. They not only don't do those 8 things the TC is talking about, they do the antithesis of them, it happened to me! Here's an example:

From September 2006 until August 2007 I stayed in the midwest, in a city where there was nothing but smokestacks and strip malls. In order to go to a target rich venue you would need to travel 100 miles to Louisville. The only available major jobs was either driving trucks, working factories, My dad had just died and he left behind some $$ so I decided not to get a job cuz I had $$ to pay for stuff. I would sleep in excess of SIXTEEN hours a day, only waking up to eat, go to bowling league, hang out with my buds or do laundry. But I did almost the opposite of those 7 things. So heres what I did:


yeah and all black people are criminals, and us dutch folks smoke weed all day long and eat cheese and americans are dumb.

u dont honestly believe that do you.

i know a lot of people who work really hardand still need 8 hours of sleep, or make up for it in the weekend. being lazy and just getting youre basic sleeping needs met are two different things.

anthony robbins, i like him. but hes way too much about succes succes succes, there more than that.

you dont have to work youre ass off every possible minute of the day to enjoy life you know(caus thats what youre hopingto reach with it, ironicly thats the thing thats stopping it i think..).

dont get me wrong working hard is great. but real great work doesnt feel like work, i know its cliche, but i know its true.

goddamn what the hell am i all talking about :p.

anyway.

i really like the fact of planning and stuff, and i love this stuff.
but for me, it has been a major pitfall. this is the pitfall;

-i read somewhere and noticed, that once something has to be done, immidiatly you get resistend towards it. for example you are invited to go to a themepark, nice. now what if something said, you HAVE TO come to the themepark no matter what you want. seems a lot less atractive. also when i did this stuff, i noticed the same thing. it became a drag, it became a job, yeah i did those things, but i wasnt enjoying them. and the result was boring forced conversation, forced sarging, forced doing things i usually enjoy.

now ive got a plan for life, what and where i want to be, without a time limit on it. it will take as long as is needed, and i will do as much as i can. also ive got some subgoals, without a time limit, i enjoy doing them much more. but still get into that ''must achieve goals'' state somethimes and i dont want to anymore becaus i have to.

also regarding sarging and this. its bad, at least was for me. when youre not reaching a goal(like 14 days for kissclose) you get way needy and it fucks with youre game and vibe, and it will work against you.

dont mean to discourage you, its really great. just dont fall in the same pitfalls as me.

for me its better to really know youre big goals, the real big. youre lifes goal.
then chunk it down into a planning and subgoals. then work as much as you can and enjoy, no timelimit or forcing it too much, it will backfire.

good luck guys!

Vulture629
01-2008-07, 08:09 PM
then work as much as you can and enjoy, no timelimit or forcing it too much, it will backfire.

All I meant to say is that laziness breeds nothing but laziness. I was lazy as death before going back to school cuz I found a reason (all the $$ that was left behind).

yeah and all black people are criminals, and us dutch folks smoke weed all day long and eat cheese and americans are dumb.
WTF where in my post did I say that or even motion to imply anything remotely similar?

btw I really AM starting small. For example all I did today game-wise was fluff talk a few college chicks and make jokes. Then I saw two 9s that I knew I would probably need to DHV myself with. But I didn't and I got blown out, I wasn't disappointed.

It's not about reaching goals for me. Its about how many times over. For example last semester I barely passed my classes. Wouldn't it be better to get As instead of just pass?

Vulture629
01-2008-07, 08:49 PM
HAHA Vulture629. Great sig

Well theres a difference. You're "nice_guy," the person who might singlehandedly change my life around this semester by introducing the challenge.

The "nice guys" I'm talking about are the fake supplicating numbnuts that still believe all you have to do to pull a female is buy her stuff and rain complements and say that they are willing to wait to bang them, when secretly they want a ONS. In simpler terms, they are closet rapists cuz they let the female know that he "respects" her, but gets all pissy after he doesn't bang her then she says "But you said you didn't want me for sex." Then the whole he said she said crap goes into play.

silverghost
01-2008-08, 05:32 AM
Not true. If you maintain lots of energy throughout the day, by eating healthy, working out everyday, and doing those 8 things this guy is proposing (and I can think of two things right now to make it a solid 10) you won't need 8 hours of sleep. You'll only need 4 or 5 Cuz you will be productive-CONSTANTLY and consistently.

Have you ever worked mate? And had an interesting life on top of that? And also had sex for 4 hours straight?(or went to the gym for 2 hours) 8 Hours of sleep is needed by our organism.
Ofcourse if u are doing nothing all day and you go to sleep its only natural to not need that much sleep.
Anyway since probably someone will start telling me "I do sleep 4-5 hours and I am fine" read this: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/sleep/starslp/parents/whysleep.htm
And this : http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_58440.html
Stop giving advice in stuff that you dont know or havent researched. Its dangerous.

The_Jedi
01-2008-08, 07:15 AM
Hold on... you mean, Dutch folks don't smoke weed all day long? :D

And as far as gov't studies, this is the same gov't that still claims that fluoride in our water is safe, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and imprisoned Japanese/Americans in concentration camp in World War 2 simply because of their Japanese heritage, all the while bitching about Hitler doing the same thing to the Jews.

silverghost
01-2008-08, 07:20 AM
So what exactly do they gain if u sleep 8 hours or 5?:p

The_Jedi
01-2008-08, 07:23 AM
So what exactly do they gain if u sleep 8 hours or 5?:p

What do they gain by saying that fluoride in the water is safe?

silverghost
01-2008-08, 11:46 AM
What do they gain by saying that fluoride in the water is safe?

If they said it wasnt safe that means that as a Government they need to take action to make this somehow safe. Being always suspicious of governments isnt always good mate. It just makes you paranoid of the smallest facts. there is a huge difference in saying that out water supplies are dangerous (people cant do anything about it) rather than saying u need to sleep 8 hours because research shows that its healthier (the power here is to the people that can choose to sleep that much, government has nothing to do with how many hours u sleep)

Milk
01-2008-08, 01:35 PM
then work as much as you can and enjoy, no timelimit or forcing it too much, it will backfire.

All I meant to say is that laziness breeds nothing but laziness. I was lazy as death before going back to school cuz I found a reason (all the $$ that was left behind).

yeah and all black people are criminals, and us dutch folks smoke weed all day long and eat cheese and americans are dumb.
WTF where in my post did I say that or even motion to imply anything remotely similar?

btw I really AM starting small. For example all I did today game-wise was fluff talk a few college chicks and make jokes. Then I saw two 9s that I knew I would probably need to DHV myself with. But I didn't and I got blown out, I wasn't disappointed.

It's not about reaching goals for me. Its about how many times over. For example last semester I barely passed my classes. Wouldn't it be better to get As instead of just pass?

that is not lazyness sir. maybe you were fine. but there are plenty of people who love doing what they do, they just dont force it. thats what im saying.

''It's not about reaching goals for me. Its about how many times over. For example last semester I barely passed my classes. Wouldn't it be better to get As instead of just pass?''

i dont get this?. its not about reachin goals, but how many times over? also why if you knew you had to dhv, why didnt u?
and you mean; get ass instead of pass?lol well mate, its better to pass probably but thats youre choice to make.

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yeah and all black people are criminals, and us dutch folks smoke weed all day long and eat cheese and americans are dumb.
WTF where in my post did I say that or even motion to imply anything remotely similar? ''
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The ppl who sleep 8-12 hours need it cuz they get bored and have nothing to do. They look like trash, have jobs they HATE (if they even have jobs), hardly read anything except porn, and basically become slaves to entertainment and smut.''

kinda generalising dont you think my friend, so yeah you can see the connection.

Milk
01-2008-08, 01:36 PM
Hold on... you mean, Dutch folks don't smoke weed all day long? :D


well ok.. my mistake.. :D smoking a big one right now with my hollandaise ass :cool: .