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SunnyD
12-17-2005, 10:53 AM
I have been field testing the guess a number 1-10 trick and people are supposed to say 7 seventy percent of the time as Style's swears to it in his book, but in the last 2 days of about 20 people 1 damn person has 7 anyone else have the same results?

SOAG
12-17-2005, 11:12 AM
You've got to make em want you to be right. If the HB just wants you to trip up on porpose, she'll be a jerk and pick a number like 10 or 1.
That's why this trick is recomended for an isolation excuse.

SunnyD
12-17-2005, 11:16 AM
Ya I guess I can see that aspect of that, but I am a numbers type person I basically tried it on a mix of people, from people I knew, to people I didn't know, when I hear 70% I want to know the exact percetange is correct not just if she wants me to be right.

Ender
12-17-2005, 12:21 PM
also a nice little trick is to show her with your hands where to guess.
for instance, when you say 'from 1' (take your hand and use it to mark 1 in the air) then you say 'to 10' (with your other hand mark 10 in the air, then with the first hand you snap at the place in the air where 7 would be)
also stress that she pick the first number to pop in her head, just really quickly, and while you're doing that, start to talk about something else, then guess her number.
hope it helps

Caranova
12-17-2005, 02:38 PM
I have been field testing the guess a number 1-10 trick and people are supposed to say 7 seventy percent of the time as Style's swears to it in his book, but in the last 2 days of about 20 people 1 damn person has 7 anyone else have the same results?
First off it's just who the pereson is and how they think... Most likely it's more of the blondes and the simple minded people... it's just how it is ... usally from my understandings... the best trick would be is to make a simple card and have the number written... the best numbers to use are 1, 2, 3, and 4 mostly likely it will be 3 .... just like pick a number 5, 6, 7, 8, ,9 or 10 they will most likely pick 7 because it's just an average pick... so your best bet would be to use 1-4 ... I always wonderd if you said 3 louder or paused in between 3 and 4 if it would make a difference.... ... well this is what I typically say... I have this game... it's easy just pick a number but don't tell me ... but you can only choose between 1 and 4... ... that's 1..2..3....or 4.... remember don't tell me and Ill tell you what you picked........"her" ok I got it... hmm let me think...... sometimes I can get this sometimes I can't ... ( now you can either hold her hand or not... " both of them " .... just say here give me your hands... ... ok ooh I got it ... it's 3.... .... yes how did you know wow or nope ... then you say welll you thought about 3 that's what you wanted to pick i'm almost sure.. then you picked ... what ever number you wanted.... ... blah blah balh ... and so on ..

MacGyver
12-17-2005, 02:56 PM
I think you could use subliminal message such as
making up a story about something that has a 7 in it
then ask them to guess a number 1-10
Like I stopped at “7?-11 to get gas and the teller was
getting robed, what is it with people robbing “7?-11’s
or I was gambling, I only had a pair of 7’s I bluffed
and won $777.77 with just a pair of 7’s wow lucky
number 7
I bet the odds will fall on 7 when you ask
MacGyver

streetcat
12-17-2005, 03:02 PM
Im new to this forum. Explain this trick to me. whats it supposed to do?

TrueStory
12-17-2005, 05:40 PM
streetcat,
think of a number between 1 and 10....quick!
ok
you are thinking number 7!
ok two tricks to this:
make her think of it really quick...rush rush rush...less thinking..in fact it should come up unconciously....very important. probability is higher (field tested)
hold seven fingers up....or find something that has 7 on it and hold it in your hand. it's called a "force" in magic. you suggest them an answer.
if you don't guess right ask if it was 6... has less effect.
if you didn't guess save your face by saying: "oh crap this is not good not good at all...i cannot read your mind, you're probably a person who lies alot.... i am not sure about you...i think you are *trouble*, ...tsk tsk...bad girl!"

Im new to this forum. Explain this trick to me. whats it supposed to do?

Lyric
12-18-2005, 02:00 AM
Hey! I had this same issue, but I've got a smooth trick for it that works everytime! I will say guess a number. If they say number 7, they are very impressed. I segueway into explaining how I can read their eyes or say, "Cool. I like THAT one." And then talk about their 4 types of smiles I've noticed... blah blah blah. Don't feel like explaining the smile mack. But they always like hearing about their different smiles. Kinda cheesy, but they eat it up at this point cause it's kinda unique and clever (so far)
Anyways, if they don't say 7 (which DOES happen often enough), I simply say,
"Well I wasn't really trying to guess the number. I was really observing your eyes and how you came up with your answer. When I said think of the number, you looked to your bottom left and this means..." blah blah blah. Eye-accessing routine. Segueway into palm reading. The number seven is completely forgotten!
I've field tested this, and more than once, a girl has been very skeptical and stand offish at first. But once I've either guessed the number right or introduced Eye-accesing cues, they have warmed up to me... cause it's fun to them.
So that's my technique for this damn guessing numbers game!

Caranova
12-18-2005, 02:06 AM
streetcat,
think of a number between 1 and 10....quick!
ok
you are thinking number 7!
ok two tricks to this:
make her think of it really quick...rush rush rush...less thinking..in fact it should come up unconciously....very important. probability is higher (field tested)
hold seven fingers up....or find something that has 7 on it and hold it in your hand. it's called a "force" in magic. you suggest them an answer.
if you don't guess right ask if it was 6... has less effect.
if you didn't guess save your face by saying: "oh crap this is not good not good at all...i cannot read your mind, you're probably a person who lies alot.... i am not sure about you...i think you are *trouble*, ...tsk tsk...bad girl!"
LOL... dam .. you know what ... the rushing thing would be VERY GOOD because people Ive asked.. such as friends they said well I was going to pick 7 but I decided to pick 5 or what ever number because 7 seems to normal to me

Fader
12-18-2005, 03:13 PM
This has never worked for me and I have tried many many times using most of the suggestion listed here. In fact I had such a bad experiences I took it out of my routines

Strokes
12-18-2005, 03:20 PM
What I do, and it works almost 90% of the time is this.
Girl says something, I say wow I was just thinking that, do you believe in ESP. She says yes or no it doesn't matter. I then Neg her, I say, okay lets start out easy, because you don't seem to in touch with your feelings, and this is all about being in touch with your feelings. Pick a number between 1-4. She picks either 2 or 3, usually 3. After I get that right I say, pick a number between 1-10, now she's not going to pick a number between 1-4 so it narrows it down to 5-10. They almost always pick 7. If they don't you can always neg them on there feelings, then make them qualify themselves on why they are in touch with their feelings

Fader
12-18-2005, 03:34 PM
What I do, and it works almost 90% of the time is this.
Girl says something, I say wow I was just thinking that, do you believe in ESP. She says yes or no it doesn't matter. I then Neg her, I say, okay lets start out easy, because you don't seem to in touch with your feelings, and this is all about being in touch with your feelings. Pick a number between 1-4. She picks either 2 or 3, usually 3. After I get that right I say, pick a number between 1-10, now she's not going to pick a number between 1-4 so it narrows it down to 5-10. They almost always pick 7. If they don't you can always neg them on there feelings, then make them qualify themselves on why they are in touch with their feelings
What do you say when you get the # wrong?

TrueStory
12-18-2005, 04:00 PM
Make it her problem! tell her she is not trustworthy...because she doesn't use her intuition. Make it sound like the reason you got the wrong number is because she is abnormal. Ask her if she troubled childhood and grewup to be not ok kid? lol have fun with it

What do you say when you get the # wrong?

Fader
12-18-2005, 04:17 PM
Make it her problem! tell her she is not trustworthy...because she doesn't use her intuition. Make it sound like the reason you got the wrong number is because she is abnormal. Ask her if she troubled childhood and grewup to be not ok kid? lol have fun with it
I believe everyone those responses will get you blown out. I cant imagine any of them working. No offense or anything

Blinx
12-18-2005, 04:32 PM
If u get it wrong the second time and dont wanna do wot TrueStory suggests u could say 'there u go...proof that esp isnt real its just a matter of chance and satistics' and take it from there.

Fader
12-18-2005, 04:43 PM
If u get it wrong the second time and dont wanna do wot TrueStory suggests u could say 'there u go...proof that esp isnt real its just a matter of chance and satistics' and take it from there.
Now THAT is really good and I can def see that working. You can totally say it with a smile and then she will giggle and you are off into your next routine.
T

DoMiNo
01-03-2006, 12:03 PM
also a nice little trick is to show her with your hands where to guess. for instance, when you say 'from 1' (take your hand and use it to mark 1 in the air) then you say 'to 10' (with your other hand mark 10 in the air, then with the first hand you snap at the place in the air where 7 would be)
also stress that she pick the first number to pop in her head, just really quickly, and while you're doing that, start to talk about something else, then guess her number.
hope it helps
Is it the same that Mystery does in his dvd. Tried today with 7 friends of mine: four times i did like Ender suggests here and 3 of them said to me the number was 7. The other three times i didn't use my hands and they said to me the numbers were 4, 3, 9.

"V"
01-03-2006, 12:16 PM
What do you say when you get the # wrong?
"That's interesting - you know I really thought you'd be a '7'... you must be so used to showing a particular face to the world, it makes you so hard to read..." and then into a cold-read bit of fluff about how she has depths that most people don't get to see etc.

TrueStory
01-03-2006, 12:23 PM
Right, the frame must be set right. If she us laughing and having fun. You can get away with "insults" you'd never imagine you could say to a girl. Make sure it's funny and you are playing around....
yeah, it's really hard, i don't recommend you do it. Stick to the sure things. I don't often go there. but when i can it's pretty powerful... (needless to say i fail misearbly many many times by being too ballbusting)

I believe everyone those responses will get you blown out. I cant imagine any of them working. No offense or anything

Cedar
01-03-2006, 02:19 PM
fad3r. Stop putting down this poor defenseless routine. Fuck, everytime you get a response it's 'that won't work.' It's clearly working for OTHER people. If its not working for you, it's because of your inner game and delivery. Are you expecting it to fail? Because that's a great way to fuck it up.
You are supposed to be having fun with the girls. This routine is a tool to help you have fun. If you're not having fun, feel free to stop using it. You are supposed to bust on the girls' answer.
Matador uses the 'proof ESP doesn't work.'
I use 'Why does this only work on blondes!?'
You could use 'You're lying to make me look bad. How do you girls roll with her?'
ANYTHING could work. I could ignore her answer and stack into another routine. It's your DELIVERY that matters.
Here's your homework young man. Go out tonight or whenever and EXPECT it to work. In fact, when the girl tells you it doesn't work, PRETEND it did! IGNORE her response and stack into something else.
'Ah, Cedar. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.' No shit. That's why it will work. You DON'T CARE how she responds. Treat it like illusionary input.
'Ah, back to the dumest-thing-I've ever-heard comment. Won't I look like an ass if I ignore her answer?' No. In fact, she'll look like an ass if she insists you got it wrong. She'll be seeking your approval.
I love it. Ignore her answer. Go do it. And don't tell me it won't work. Or I'll go do it. Come back and tell you it works. And then you look like a schmuck.
And I only quit caffeine yesterday. Holy crap am I wired.

Fader
01-03-2006, 02:24 PM
fad3r. Stop putting down this poor defenseless routine. Fuck, everytime you get a response it's 'that won't work.' It's clearly working for OTHER people. If its not working for you, it's because of your inner game and delivery. Are you expecting it to fail? Because that's a great way to fuck it up.
You are supposed to be having fun with the girls. This routine is a tool to help you have fun. If you're not having fun, feel free to stop using it. You are supposed to bust on the girls' answer.
Matador uses the 'proof ESP doesn't work.'
I use 'Why does this only work on blondes!?'
You could use 'You're lying to make me look bad. How do you girls roll with her?'
ANYTHING could work. I could ignore her answer and stack into another routine. It's your DELIVERY that matters.
Here's your homework young man. Go out tonight or whenever and EXPECT it to work. In fact, when the girl tells you it doesn't work, PRETEND it did! IGNORE her response and stack into something else.
'Ah, Cedar. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.' No shit. That's why it will work. You DON'T CARE how she responds. Treat it like illusionary input.
'Ah, back to the dumest-thing-I've ever-heard comment. Won't I look like an ass if I ignore her answer?' No. In fact, she'll look like an ass if she insists you got it wrong. She'll be seeking your approval.
I love it. Ignore her answer. Go do it. And don't tell me it won't work. Or I'll go do it. Come back and tell you it works. And then you look like a schmuck.
And I only quit caffeine yesterday. Holy crap am I wired.
Wow. .
There quoting posts from weeks ago. It's not that serious bro

Cedar
01-03-2006, 03:49 PM
Wow. .
There quoting posts from weeks ago. It's not that serious bro
I blame it on the lack of caffeine. Happy Hunting.