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Zando
07-14-2006, 04:52 AM
G'Day,
I need some help, im 19 years old and im the biggest virgin, havnt even been kissed,recently moved out of home with my best friend, sharehousing in an apartment, 3 bedrooms 2 of us living there, we finally have all our furniture and we are hosting a house warming aprty in 7 days from now, im determind to lose my virginity in 7 days from now, my depression is getting worse every day that goes by, he is inviting this girl that im interested in having sex with as well as a tonne of other people, ive only seen this girl twice, havnt got her number or anything, is there anything i can do at this party that can ensure me losing my virginity, when she drinks she gets drunk, really drunk, anyone got any tips or help ?
Zando.

megadirt
07-14-2006, 05:45 AM
I wouldnt advise playing the drunk card, particularly because if you lose your virginity that evening, itll be great....that evening. When you wake up and shes sober and doesnt feel the same way as she did previously, you aren't gonna react well. I advise going into the party as mr. social. Make everyone there want to talk to you, be the centre of all attention if everyone enjoys themselves because of you, then at least at the next party , youll have much DHV.

Zando
07-14-2006, 08:50 PM
G'Day,
And how do i become mr social, i wouldnt have a clue what to talk about with everyone ? and if i do, then what do i do after ive become mr social ?
Zando

Accent
07-14-2006, 08:57 PM
Relax, why 7 days ? You have your own apartments, thats great, you can throw party whenever from now on, just throw parties once in while, you will make more friends, it doesnt even matter what you gonna talk about, everybody gonna have fun and you are host of the party all eyes should be on you already, introduce people to each other, small talk, play some stupid bottle game after yall get half way drunk. I think whatever is gonna work, dont focus on outcome, focus on process. I wish I had the power to throw parties !

ImpulseII
07-15-2006, 01:03 AM
Ummm... it's not as easy as throwing a party and saying i choose you, lets fuck. if you're gonna game her i hope you have some kind of routine down, i have no clue how good you are with the MM. Post back with your experience. If anything don't forget to peacock (my favorite part).

Zando
07-15-2006, 02:04 AM
G'day,
My experiences are very limited, i really have had no experience and i dont even know what MM means although i do know what peacock means i dont have enything i could peacock with, so i need as much info and help i an get between now and 6 days, i need tips posted and everything, im in dire need.
Zando.

Nox
07-15-2006, 10:28 AM
Don't peacock if you can't handle social pressure. It will make you look like a clown.
Also, keep in mind that you're asking too much. Little steps man. You need to go slow. You can't wish to go from nothing to fucking a beautiful girl in 7 days. This is not a movie. In life, everything good and valuable, takes time.
However, you can try, so here's the advice.
Be social. Open everyone in the room. Get some openers from the attraction section and use them on the people in the party. Also, keep in mind that it's a party, people are receptive, they won't tell you to fuck off. In fact, they'll be glad you talked to them.
Think of it this way: People are boring. You are not. You come in and start talking and saying all this interesting things, they'll love you.
Also, read this:
The Zero to Hero in 0.2 days myth (http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7401)
Bes regards,
Nox.

Sheek
07-15-2006, 05:34 PM
MM stands for Mystery Method. Here's what I propose you do:
Day 1:
1) Download the free chapter of the Venusian Arts Handbook (you can find the link on the www.theattractionforums.com homepage), and read it until you are VERY familiar with each step.
2) Read some field reports from the Field Reports section to get an idea of what others do & what a general sarge looks like. I recommend reading Blackbird's newbie mission nights from Day 10 & on (before that is still awesome, but you're pressed for time & want to read his most successful nights). Also read some of the Leeds nights out. Phoenix had an awesome post where he picked up a model.
3) Read the following threads IN THEIR ENTIRETY:
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7665
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7606
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6044
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7136
The more you put into learning pickup, the more you will get out. Reading these posts will help you a LOT.
Day 2:
1) Visit the 'All PUA Routines/Material At Your Fingertips!" thread in my signature, follow the instructions in the first post to install KeyNote, and then download the most recent KeyNote file.
2) Look through the A1-A3 section, and create a routine stack that you are going to use. This means a set of routines you are going to memorize & use on girls.
3) Visit the following link and watch ALL of the movies he has (click on the name of the submitter, and you'll see the list of 13 movies he's published). This is inspiring, & makes you really want to get out and sarge. Here's the link to the movies: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=gunsgermssteel
Day 3 - 6:
1) Get out of your house & open as many girls as you possibly can. You can't hope to possibly f-close your first sarge, you need to be socially calibrated. Keep practicing. The newbie mission requires you do to 4 hours worth a day for a month, you should be doing more if you want to get somewhat decent within a week. Try 6-8 hours a week, that should get you to a decent level within a week. Fuck your approach anxiety; you'll feel hesitant to approach, but doing approaches is the ONLY way you'll get better.
2) Post field reports of what you did daily in the 'Field Reports' section for feedback, and post any questions you have in here or in your field report thread.
I've subscribed to this thread, so I'll know when something has been posted here. If you need a question answered quickly, post it in here & I'll do my best to help you.
Good luck!
- Sheek

Lancelot
07-15-2006, 11:36 PM
THE card to play at parties is the DHV card.
You already have a good part of that in play. It is YOUR apartment. That will be the opportunity for attraction. That is what makes them MUCH more receptive to DHV.
The problem with the concept of DHV is that DHV isn't DHV to yourself. You've done it all, it's not interesting to YOU. But it is to THEM.
One of the good DHVs is to lie. Not "Oh yea, I toured with Aerosmith" lie, but "Oh the party? Yea, my friend was a little reluctant to have it, but I convinced him." Keep LieDHVs one to two persons deep. That way if it ever comes up, you can say "Oh man, you don't remember?"
DHV, in a sense, is taking credit for good things.
What good things have you done in your life? All of a sudden, her trip to Nunnovit, Canada, reminds you of your trip to wherever, where you did whatever.
Also, the virginity thing can be a plus. If you don't think so, lie. Become an un-virgin through words. Honestly, who are they gonna trust? The non-existent person who knows you just as well as you do?
Virginity can be a plus if you play it right. "No girl has seemed special enough." (Stay away from the abstinence till marriage, that will make you a hippocryte.)

Sheek
07-16-2006, 07:25 AM
Lancelot, you gave good advice. However, I think that to get good in such a short span of time, you REALLY need to get out in the field and just approach as many sets as you can. Confidence, good body language, & alpha traits are much better DHVs than stories you tell, although the two do go hand-in-hand.
Your focus shouldn't be on formulating DHV stories so you can have some at the party, it should be cramming everything you can about A1-A3 in your head in one or two days & then going out and non-stop sarging for the next few days until your party. This will ensure that even if you don't f-close her at the party, you still have the opportunity to do so later.

Soulnafien
07-18-2006, 02:31 AM
Do what sheek said. Make sure u read that Keynote thing, its got most of the good stuff in there. Thats the best u can do in 7 days.
At the party i think you should forget the girl. Make friends with everyone there, this is your opportunity to get to know more people, more people = more networking = more HB's. I cant emphasise this enough, you must understand how important getting to know more people is, especially if u have just moved out. Make this party about getting to know more people and contacts not about one tiny insignificant goal of fucking a girl u barely know.
Look at the bigger picture.

C Drama
07-18-2006, 02:40 PM
I think everyone else is on the right track with the advice here -- networking and meeting new people should be your main goal with the party... the less you think about f-closing this girl, the easier it will be to talk to her, and for every girl for that matter. Don't put pressure on yourself to screw this broad because that will convey desperation which results in lower standards -- and you don't wanna get started off w/ a reputation of just screwing any chick that comes your way. A few people in the forum have written about ways to play the virgin card to your advantage to land HB's.
I wouldn't sweat it too much, just try and meet as many new ppl as u can, it'll all work out.

Sheek
07-19-2006, 03:52 AM
Hmm, well it's nice to know the original poster cares & is posting a lot in this thread.

Mister E
08-19-2006, 11:59 AM
I wonder what happens to these people -- do they forget their password or just arent keyboard jockeys like us :p
Its past those 7 days man...did you at least bother to do any apporaches
Take everything one step at a time.
Don't go for the prize early on -- earn your way up there

espnR
08-20-2006, 11:39 AM
As I was about to say, this is not like American Pie, I think you will ave to deal with a bit more than 7 days. I noticed that too the first time I got onto this forum. First I wanted an advice but then I started to read around alot and now im still here.

JBeds
08-20-2006, 07:39 PM
If you have a talent, like playin the electric violin or whatever, pull it out, but make it subtle. For example, I play and love playing guitar. When I know I'm having some people around (girls love guitar in case you didn't know) I'll place the guitar in a prominent spot so it can be seen, but not so it looks like I put it there on purpose. When the girls see it, they'll be amazed that you play guitar (this is because they can't play guitar, subsequently they don't understand the guitar. People are curious of anything they don't uderstand). The scenario might go something like this:
(HB sees the guitar)
HB: "Oh my God! I didn't know you played guitar!"
(you have to act like your'e pissed off they saw it, like you can't be fucked playing or performing for them because you play all the time)
HB: "Play something for us/me!"
PUA: (still can't be fucked) "Ahhhh....."
HB: "Come on, pleeeaaassse." (guitars are great at parties. If the girl/girls are a bit drunk, they will give you more attention. Guys will not ask you to play because if you start playing, their alpha-status diminishes and all the attention is on you.)
PUA: "Ahhh, OK." (start playing but act as though you don't care about what you're playing and make it seem like you can't be fucked. You will notice that all the attention in the room has focused on you and you are now gaining alpha-status because you are doing something no other guy or girl in the room can do. This is kind of like a DHV routine, only you're working the whole room. Sing if you can sing, girls love a guy who can sing, but limit yourself to one or two songs, that way you leave them wanting more.)
After you play you will get a clap and a few pats on the back. Just calmly and smoothly put the guitar aside (in case you want to pull it out later). You will find that guys will be coming up to you and kissing your arse because they were impressed. You are now the alpha male at the party. Girls will start coming up to you (most of the time when another girl goes, because they want you to themselves and wont tolerate another girl talking to you. When she sees guys kissing your arse she will be hooked, and you havn't even started talking to her yet! When she comes over (and she will), act like you played the song shit and you can play it so much better but you just can;t be fucked. She will think you played it great, so just neg her a bit saying that she doesn't know what she's talking about blah blah blah. I guarantee you, having a talent like playing an instrument or whatever is a great thing to have at a party (the only problem with guitar is if someone else can play and they play better than you!). If you don;t play guitar then that's fine, all you have to do is find your talent and flaunt it. You will instantly gain alpha status because while you are entertaining everyone while all the other guys are sitting there with their thumb up their arse. After you stop showing off your talent, guys will kiss your arse and girls will want to kiss you. Don;t be fooled, you still have to make the moves, only now the hard part is over. You have DHV'd the room, become the alpha male and AMOG'd every dickhead at the party. Now just choose the girl and close the deal.
Hope this helps (find your hidden talent, and if you don't have one, learn the fucking guitar right now!!!)
Cheers, JBeds.

excess_
08-22-2006, 05:07 AM
Dont make this girl a one-itis thing or you will just end up putting to much pressure on yourself and more than likely fuck up. Remember SHE is at YOUR party, nowhere else, so theres a confidence boost for you (she could have said NO remember). Socialise with every group and introduce yourself to people on arrival who you dont know and try to get her to see this for social proof.
Peacock if you feel comfortable, but not if your going to look stupid, or since your already at your appartment you could change out of your peacocking clothes half way through the night as she will notice and talk to you about. Act with confidence, because why shouldnt this girl be thinking of you the way you think of her. she should be privledged and exstatic that she is speaking to you.
Anyway, stand out and be the centre of attention with some good jokes and stories, keep negging her and dont rely on her being drunk as it wouldnt be her talking, it would be the booze. Besides that taking advantage.
Good luck with your party dude and tell us how it goes. Hope this helps :)

Sheek
08-22-2006, 10:21 AM
Guys, stop replying to this thread, it's DEAD and the original poster hasn't said anything about it. He probably went out, tried, failed, & gave up.
Plz let this die. ;)

Sskkyy
08-31-2006, 02:33 PM
Wow buddy thats really lofty and I'm not saying you shouldn't go for it. But what you should do is try to learn and play consistent game becasue once you have good consistent game the results will come do not get all caught up in the result just have fun with the prosses and you'll lose that v-card soon enough
Sskkyy

Sheek
08-31-2006, 02:36 PM
Wow buddy thats really lofty and I'm not saying you shouldn't go for it. But what you should do is try to learn and play consistent game becasue once you have good consistent game the results will come do not get all caught up in the result just have fun with the prosses and you'll lose that v-card soon enough
Sskkyy
Please, make an effort to read through a thread before posting.

Rusty
08-31-2006, 02:51 PM
Wow, Zando should be estatic, its not everyday Sheek decides to be nice.
Zando's probally dead, he mentioned deppresion, and for all noobs pua's cant resurrect the dead, not even sheek.

Zando
08-31-2006, 09:04 PM
How do I develop solid game, by the way sorry for not replying, ive been working and ive had other things to do, also the party didnt happen, but i have one coming up on the 30th, back to the question, how do i develop solid game ?

Rusty
08-31-2006, 11:16 PM
Zando's alive!, somebody tell sheek.

How do I develop solid game
lol,
1; know all the best material
2;put into practice all the best material
3;be congruent with all the best material

and for all noobs pua's cant resurrect the dead, not even sheek
It appears i underestimated the seduction community.

Sheek
09-02-2006, 09:21 AM
How do I develop solid game, by the way sorry for not replying, ive been working and ive had other things to do, also the party didnt happen, but i have one coming up on the 30th, back to the question, how do i develop solid game ?
So a search. I've been waiting forever to use this:
To Zando:
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814&d=1157217673
From Sheek & Regiment. YOUR SEARCH BUTTON IS ON FIRE, YOU CAN'T USE IT!!!111one

Zando
10-03-2006, 12:38 AM
Well,well,well....
Me and my friends decided to go to the city on sunday night as it was the long weekend and the clubs were still open, we went out drinkign at a club, we left it and went to another one, where they introduced me to a brazilian chick and forced me to talk to her, it was alright, nothing special compared to what has been acheived with other PUA's, bought some drinks, got her number, here group moved on after the club closed, so we relocated ot another bar, on the way there was this B-E-A-Utiful British HB 7.5 walking behind us, she grabs me from behind and asks if we are going to a club, so i tell her to join my group and well take her to one.
On the way one of my mates was sarging her, so i kinda stepped back as it screwed up my confidence, but once we got to the club, they danced while i got the drinks, ended up buying her and her friend a bottle of wine, we talked for a bit, then she grabs me and starts making out with me...(WOOOOO HOOOOO), and we keep doing this for 30 mins, which is when the club closes as it was 4 o'clock and my friends have all ditched me and gone home without me, including my house mate, me and the HB walk around the city for a bvit, looking at stuff and making out, we then catch a cab back to my house, by the time we get home its 5 !
We walk in my front door and it turns out that my house mate and his girlfriend are still awake....and still drinking....
So we retire to my room, she asks to borrow one of my shirts, i turn the lights of and we climb into my bed and under the covers, we start making out and as things are about to get heavy and i think i might get laid....she falls dead asleep on my arm, cutting off the circulation, I then realise that she has poositioned herself so she has most of the pillow,blanket and bed....6 hours later we wake up, exchange numbers, talk for a bit and then she goes home....planning on calling her on wednsday except i dont know what i should say, Any suggestions ?

Phlash
10-03-2006, 12:47 PM
Good. game.
See, your one-itis with the other girl has already been cured. Whatever you do, don't gain one-itis for this new girl. Seriously.

_Envy_
10-03-2006, 02:50 PM
I think the most important thing for you to do now is to focus on doing another pick up like you did with her. Rather than putting your efforts into how to get her into bed you'd be better off putting your energy on to how to pick up some more girls and having them also as potential fucks. Being new it would be best to maximise your options, and by doing that you will be projecting an attitude that is much more likely to get you laid.
- Envy x