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Friction
06-05-2006, 08:39 AM
Ok so i understand hoop theory ie: she asks your age, you say guess, if she replys with something rather than a "oh i dunno, etc" then tell her.
But what if she asks your name? I cant think of any good hoops to put out to that for her to jump through, before i jump through hers.
Guys help me here :D

GameBoy
06-05-2006, 09:43 AM
Hoop theory can be taken many directions and there are more parts to the entire philosophy than this part.
However - this kind of hoop/baiting is rooted in making yourself more challenging. It mattes little what you say - but how it projects your frame:
Be playfully arrogant:
HB: "So, what's your name."
GB: "Woah now, I'm not sure we're at that phase yet - but since you're insistant, buy me a drink and we'll see..."
Be goofy:
HB: "So, what's your name."
GB: "My name is Indigo Montoya. You killed my father... prepare to die.:cool: "
or
GB: "My name's Forrest Gump, people call me Forrest Gump :D "
Be cocky:
HB: "So, what's your name."
GB: "Since you want to know so badly, we'll trade - tell me yours first."
Be straight up:
HB: "So, what's your name."
GB: "I'm GameBoy :cool: "
Don't focus so tightly on each phase of the interaction.
You know, I used to play a lot of poker - so I loved it when the TV boom hit. People are always 'lookin' for tells' now, but they don't realize that tells matter little. It's all about bettring patters and the underlying structure. Yet, but trying so hard to focus on every little detail, they'd miss out on so much of what was happening - or give too much away themself.
Catch my drift?
-GB

Fate
06-05-2006, 10:42 AM
Great post, GameBoy! I use pretty much all of the ones you mention. I've also been a big fan of the, "I don't give my name out to strangers." It gets them thinking a little. Also, depending on where you're at in a sarge, just having a girl asking your name is an fairly strong IOI.

Friction
06-05-2006, 02:02 PM
Don't focus so tightly on each phase of the interaction.
You know, I used to play a lot of poker - so I loved it when the TV boom hit. People are always 'lookin' for tells' now, but they don't realize that tells matter little. It's all about bettring patters and the underlying structure. Yet, but trying so hard to focus on every little detail, they'd miss out on so much of what was happening - or give too much away themself.
Catch my drift?
-GB
Didnt really understand this bit mate, whats TV boom hit? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Apart from that, cheers for the post mate! :) :D

GameBoy
06-05-2006, 02:45 PM
Didnt really understand this bit mate, whats TV boom hit? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Apart from that, cheers for the post mate! :) :D
The "TV Boom" i am referring to is the airing of "The World Poker Tour" and similar other showes. This was the greatest thing to happen to serious players - a whole new group that had no idea what they were doing... but thought that they did.

Sinergy
06-07-2006, 07:06 PM
The same thing happened in Blackjack a while ago. Thorpe's book came out and everyone though they could make a fortune playing Blackjack. However, back then the casinos thought they could to so they pretty much shut the game down. However, the same thing happend as in Poker. The game saw a huge increase in the number of players who thought they knew what they were doing, but really had no idea.

Cedar
06-07-2006, 07:16 PM
The concept of hoop theory is to build compliance momentum. If she asks you a question, respond with a question. Start with questions that require a small investure (ie, yes/no questions) and build into questions that require a lot of thought.
And don't let her pass all of the hoops.

HB: "So, what's your name."
GB: "My name is Indigo Montoya. You killed my father... prepare to die.:cool: "
My buddy from Spain was in town for a month before I made him say this. hehe