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    Q&A Session: Rokker Was Here(Finished)

    Rokker, one of Europe's new TMM master instructors, has kindly agreed to put himself at your disposal to answer your sticking points questions about PU and The Mystery Method. Those who were around earlier would remember Sinn's Q&A sessions which can be found here and there

    An intro by Rokker can be found here. You can read his classical writings here.

    This thread will be open for a limited time only(depending on how busy Rokker is). So, make use of this unique opportunity to pick Rokker's brains. (Not you, Hannibal Lecter).

    So, start the Questions.



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    You're gaming a girl and from the middle of no where another girl comes and drags her away, you didn't have the opportunity to befriend the obstacle because she came out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skld View Post
    You're gaming a girl and from the middle of no where another girl comes and drags her away, you didn't have the opportunity to befriend the obstacle because she came out of nowhere.
    Well, this assumes that you opened her when her friends were away. So you could more or less expect a interrupt sooner or later in the set. Just like if you isolate too quickly (which however is not a particular bad strategy per se, but you have to know how to handle interrupts) you know the interrupt will come, so why not prepare for it? So when the girl comes in run standard interruption game.

    If your mind goes blank, just stop the obstacle and open her with e.g. a opinion opener and then game the set as a 2 set.
    [B][I]Rokker[/I][/B]
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    What was the toughest sticking point for you to overcome and why?

  5. On day 2, I feel like I have to kind of start at A2 and move back into comfort... Does this mean I haven't built enough comfort in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jremi View Post
    What was the toughest sticking point for you to overcome and why?
    Probably not giving a damn what anyone thinks of me. Especially in the beginning, but when I started to make a concious effort not to care and when my successes started to rack up, it was easier. But it definitely took time to ingrain into my brain.
    [B][I]Rokker[/I][/B]
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    [I]Specialities:[/I] Same Night Lays, Identity, Natural game and Rock Star game
    [I]Reviews: [/I][URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959"]1on1 in Venice[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44324"]1on1 in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53029&highlight=rokker"]Bootcamp in Munich[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59345"]1on1 in Oslo[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63026"]1on1 in Stockholm #2[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63530"]Bootcamp in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67529"]Bootcamp in London[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFChimp View Post
    On day 2, I feel like I have to kind of start at A2 and move back into comfort... Does this mean I haven't built enough comfort in the first place?
    Not necessarily. You almost always start in attraction when you haven't seen her for awhile (even just a day or two) because you want to gauge how attracted she is right there and then AND you want to show her why she was attracted to you in the first place. However, as soon as you know where you're at, make sure you push for the other phases (qualification, comfort and on a date definitely seduction) and don't be afraid to escalate. Being able to shamelessly escalate is a great skill to have, and it's worth fucking up some dates to learn how to do that.
    [B][I]Rokker[/I][/B]
    Love Systems' Instructor
    [url]http://www.lovesystems.com/rokker[/url]

    [I]Specialities:[/I] Same Night Lays, Identity, Natural game and Rock Star game
    [I]Reviews: [/I][URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959"]1on1 in Venice[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44324"]1on1 in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53029&highlight=rokker"]Bootcamp in Munich[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59345"]1on1 in Oslo[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63026"]1on1 in Stockholm #2[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63530"]Bootcamp in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67529"]Bootcamp in London[/URL]

  8. I got a whole list for ya baby

    Appreciate the replys in advance, friend

    1) What was your most brutal blowout?

    2) What is your strategy pertaining to AMOGs commenting on the way you dress?

    3) What are the steps you personally take when creating new DHV stories?

    4) What is your favorite outfit?

    5) How many women would you guesstamate you have approached in your life? Per month? Per week?

    Thanks for your time Rokker

  9. WHat should one do In order to build a social circle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodIA View Post
    1) What was your most brutal blowout?
    I honestly don't know. I don't tend to focus on the blow-out itself, more what I did wrong in approaching so I don't have any specific blow-out lingering in mind. However, I think the most brutal blow-outs is where they just give you that look y'know and turn their back on you... because there is really nothing you can do compared to when they give you shit (and you can turn it around by being unreactive)

    But my point is, why care about how they blew you out? That sort of thinking is counter-productive, even if you only ask for entertainment value.

    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodIA View Post
    2) What is your strategy pertaining to AMOGs commenting on the way you dress?
    Being unreactive. I never engage in "epic AMOG battles". Why should I? If they give you shit, just say "cool man" in a slightly dismissive tone, give them a light tap on the shoulder and continue gaming the girl. The one being reactive in any social situation is always the person with the least value. By being unreactive I'll never be in that position.

    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodIA View Post
    3) What are the steps you personally take when creating new DHV stories?
    First I make sure that I really want to tell that story in the first place. Is it a cool story without the DHVs? Then I try to spike it with as much emotional detail as I can possibly fit in... the way to create good stories is not the DHV spikes themselves, but the emotions you can create from telling it. So when I have the emotions down in the story, I figure out the "logistics" of the story, what's my hook? What's the middle? How do I want it to end (punchline, moral etc)? I highly recommend getting Sinn & Future's Interview Series disc on Storytelling and Humor.

    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodIA View Post
    4) What is your favorite outfit?
    I don't have one specific outfit that I like more than others, but my general style is that I mix street with style and rock. E.g. cool t-shirt with a tie and a jacket and jeans. Or a shirt with torn jeans. Above that I have 2-3 necklaces and leather wristbands.

    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodIA View Post
    5) How many women would you guesstamate you have approached in your life? Per month? Per week?
    Oh, tough one. Thousands Per week I would guess I do about 20-30 sets, so that would be roughly 100 per month. Some nights when I focus on "social proof game" I approach EVERYONE in the venue, but only for a very quick chat so the numbers skyrocket when I do that. To be honest, the number of sets you've approached is not the indicator of how good you are or will become, it's what you learn from every interaction that is important.
    [B][I]Rokker[/I][/B]
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    [I]Specialities:[/I] Same Night Lays, Identity, Natural game and Rock Star game
    [I]Reviews: [/I][URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959"]1on1 in Venice[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44324"]1on1 in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53029&highlight=rokker"]Bootcamp in Munich[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59345"]1on1 in Oslo[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63026"]1on1 in Stockholm #2[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63530"]Bootcamp in Stockholm[/URL], [URL="http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67529"]Bootcamp in London[/URL]

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