How to approach two women: a gorgeous one + an ugly one

**IfYouKnowMath** · 09-04-2017, 05:45 PM

How to approach two women: a gorgeous one + an ugly one

I've got a question about the situation, which I encounter quite often when daygaming: how to approach two women, one of which is super gorgeous and the other is ugly/fat. Should one use a direct opener on the gorgeous one?-- then how does one proceed with the ugly one after that? Or should one try to use a situational opener on both of them (which may be hard to come up with on the spot)? Could anyone share good strategies for that please? Many thanks!

**Vox** · 09-05-2017, 07:52 AM

What have you tried so far, what problems are you running into?

**IfYouKnowMath** · 09-05-2017, 04:58 PM

I am somewhat a beginner in terms of daygame, unlike nightgame, but would like to develop daytime skills.
My instructor told me briefly how to do it during an LS bootcamp, but it was very brief because the bootcamp was devoted to nightgame. I also read the "Daytime Dating" book and tried to follow the strategies.

So, I went out several times during the daytime, opening and talking to mostly lone women on the street, got two numbers.
Two times I opened pairs of women, both of which were attractive. I would use a direct opener on both of them and talk to them for several minutes-- they would seem less enthusiastic than lone women and would find some excuses to go after a few minutes.

Many times I saw pairs a gorgeous woman + an ugly one, but didn't open them because I hesitated and couldn't figure out how to approach in that situation. These situations are quite common, I reckon, and being able to open in them would help me intensify my daygame.

**Vox** · 09-06-2017, 07:07 PM

So you haven't even tried yet. Give a compliment to the one you like, try it bunch and see what feedback you get then come back here.

I'm not going to advise someone who isn't going out there and at least trying things. That's how you learn.

**IfYouKnowMath** · 09-06-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Vox

So you haven't even tried yet. Give a compliment to the one you like, try it bunch and see what feedback you get then come back here.

I'm not going to advise someone who isn't going out there and at least trying things. That's how you learn.

I just wanted to ask for openers for these situations. But ok, I'll try a bunch and then will come back here.

**gq1** · 09-07-2017, 10:22 AM

If you have openers that work well on single women, why not try it on pairs?

Most game isn't about having a good opener or a good patter... it's about having an opener/patter which fits YOU.

**IfYouKnowMath** · 09-09-2017, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by gq1

If you have openers that work well on single women, why not try it on pairs?

Most game isn't about having a good opener or a good patter... it's about having an opener/patter which fits YOU.

Thanks for the nice reply, gq1. I am trying it right now.
You are right, of course. At first I didn't feel comfortable complimenting just the beautiful woman, because I felt like I was implying something something about the other one, thus feeling somewhat rude-- they would walk away or say they weren't interested or would stop responding in the transition phase (maybe because I wasn't feeling comfortable myself).

I tried then to open by saying to both that they looked great (although that was a lie), feels better-- just got a number from the beautiful woman in such a pair. I will experiment more.

**TheSecondShade** · 01-01-2018, 02:02 PM

Make the ugly one feel special and don't pay a lot of attention to the prettier one. The better looking one is used to attention so will want yours when you show her you don't want it.

**Honey Badger** · 01-01-2018, 06:38 PM

Generally, I do one of two things with a two set like this (a specific target, and a definite no):

1. Direct opener on the hot one. As I'm delivering that, state to the other that I just have a thing for X (blondes, short girls, tall girls, etc). This shows social understanding and doesn't leave the other girl completely ignored.
2. Still direct opener, but pseudo-asking the not hot girl for permission to talk to the target for a minute or two. "Is it ok if I speak with your friend for a minute? I really like her style." Or whatever you genuinely like. Though I've never had a girl say no to that question, I begin talking to the target without waiting for real permission. It's basically a courtesy thing. I find it important, day and night game, to not 'can' compliments. Canned openers have their place, but the genuine stuff feels more natural. I come from a direct background though.

From what Vox was kind of getting at, there's never a perfect solution. You can open with anything you like if you do not come off as creepy and can calibrate to the situation as well as the target(s). Getting yourself into conversations will be the most helpful thing.

**gq1** · 01-07-2018, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by IfYouKnowMath

At first I didn't feel comfortable complimenting just the beautiful woman, because I felt like I was implying something something about the other one, thus feeling somewhat rude--

This is a theme i see fairly often. A lot of guys will self-limit themselves because they make assumptions about what other people will think/feel.

Anyways, just make sure you're not complimenting the beautiful one simply for being beautiful.