From Muffin to Thug

[thug muffin]

From Muffin to Thug

After reading all the other journals and how much they have inspired me I figured I would document my journey as well.

I'm 35 and Dec 15, 2010 I took a bootcamp with Krauser and Burto from when they came across the pond and visited San Diego.

Currently I'm at about 60 approaches with only about 10 of those being solo. The difference of having a wing or some type of support person with you makes it so much easier on you. I doubt I could have hit the last 30 without meeting up and winging with Runner87 from this group. Just having him there is has a tremendous impact on alleviateing any sort of AA. So Runner87, I'm glad you let me wing with you. We're going to be destroying SD by this summer.

Right now I'm focusing on the approach and first couple of minutes into the conversation.
My typical interactions go like this:

1. Opener: which range from saying they are cute, interesting, fun energetic walk, style
I try to incorporate a tease but I don't always come up with one.

I really like how Myzta opens with they're cute but don't think I'm going to put out. I haven't used it yet though but it matches my personality and how I interact.

My whole frame going into sets is that I'm going to be adding value to their humdrum day by giving them a fun playful experience with a real man who's got a set of balls, witty banter, and devestatingly good looks


2. I guess what they're up to. If they are dressed up really nice I say how they're going on a safari. If they are dressed down about how they need to find the perfect thing for the ball they're going to tonight.

"I'm going to guess your here shopping because you're going to XYZ destination and you need to find the perfect XYZ."

Now that I'm writing this I'm going to add a tease/cold read in why they are shopping for X object.

3. Tell them what I'm doing today at the mall. Right now I'm talking about how I'm shopping for my little 3.5 year old niece for her b-day, which is a total lie (I have a niece but it's not her b-day). I go into how she's super into the Cars movie and all she ever talks about is Cars this and cars that and she wants a remote controlled car and a workbench.

I'm thinking it's at this stage where I can just plough a few minutes and ramble about my niece and how she's a super adorable little troll.

I.E.

Me: I'm out shopping for my niece. She's this adorable little troll that melts my heart. Whenever we play hide and seek she loves to tell me where she's going to hide and then when it's my turn to hide she tells me all the good spots. Usually I'll look in spots right next to her and say "Where'd she go?!?!?!" All the while she's giggling uncontrollably. However sometimes I need to show her that the world isn't always rainbows, gumdrops and lollipops and that her uncle can dominate at hide and seek.

I don't really see her a lot so I need to make sure I maintain my dominance as favorite uncle so I need to buy her the perfect gift. For Christmas I almost got outdone by a light up yo-yo. I'm thinking I've got to go huge now. I may just pull my Ace card and buy her a pony.


4. You do/or don't look like the typical San Diego girl and make comments how they're dressed up/down. Talk about how girls wear sweats and they look like they gave up on the world ala Seinfeld. Sometimes I'll high 5 them for being stylish. I don't always remember this but I try to pick out an object of their clothing and say it's really interesting and I like how it fits with her vibe.

I'm thinking about adding in a bit from clueless.
Girls just think they can put on their pajamas that say Juicy on them, Ugg Boots, and some mascara and think all the boys will just swoon for them. (All this done in a typical valley girl voice)

5. I usually run out of topics to talk about and eject.

I just read Jon117's topic Having Trouble Continuing the conversation... I'm going to start to bring up topics that interest me and ways to qualify the girl.

I think I'll add this in for step 6

"SO besides cruising the streets for hot guys, what do you usually do for fun?"


Stats so Far
Goal for January - 100 approaches and get the opener down
62 Approaches
3 Numbers (no response from any of them)

Per Roissy's advice I no longer think of girls in terms of how hot they are. I just say she looks really interesting.


1-15-2012

Goal - 10 sets
Total Sets - 12

I didn't really deviate that much from my script above. Sometimes I cut it short other times I went through the whole thing. It takes me about 3-5 sets to really get into state. I need to remember that the first couple are junk and just for me to get into state. Once I hit 4-5 I'm good to approach and much looser. The more interesting the girl the more I like to approach which is probably because of the little rush I get from it. Out of my 12 I would say there we're only 2-3 which really peaked my interest.



Things to Work On:

1. Vibing and continuing the conversation.

[thug muffin]

1-16-12

Total Sets 65

Approaches 5-6 but I'm leaning towards 5

Approaches 1-3

Didn't really go anywhere past the opener. Doesn't really matter because I know that's how many it takes for me to even get my motor running.

#4
This girl is exactly what I go for.Stylish, feminine, no sharp angular features on her face (softish like Mila Kunis). I actually had to stalk her a bit because every time I wanted to approach she dropped into a store or vanished from my site.

Followed my script up to stage 4.
She told me she moved from Chicago and I asked what brought her here. She said she moved here
with her husband. I joke around with her a bit that I usually take a look at a girls hand before I talk to them
to make sure they don't have a ring but hers were in her pocket.
I eject.

#5
Opened
Me: What brings you out today?
Her: Just getting my watch fixed?
M: Is it a cool swatch watch that has a rubber band guard?!?!
H: HAHA no
M: Oh then maybe a transformer watch?
H: laughs
M: Ok... your asian so it's probably a calculator watch

She gave me that your an asshole but I like you look after that.

Ploughed on my niece and went into vibing.
Talking about what she's doing out, here where shes from, schooling etc...
I do a bit of teasing here as well.

She mentions she's a medic reservist so I go into bits about would she be able to save me if my artery in my leg burst open. What was the some of the stuff she's done using her medic training.

I hit investment and qualification
So what else do you do for fun besides crusing the mall talking to cute guys?

We go into more about this but I'm positive I could have gotten an instadate but I wasn't really interested in this girl so I politely ejected.

[boston_019]

Haha... calculator watch.

I'm in San Diego, I'm curious where you're doing this- the boardwalk in PB?

[Runner87]

Hey dude, its good to see you are posting

[boston_019]

Hey dude, its good to see you are posting

Do we know each other?

[thug muffin]

Haha... calculator watch.

I'm in San Diego, I'm curious where you're doing this- the boardwalk in PB?

I'll either go downtown during lunchtime or various malls. I haven't tried PB yet. I think it would be a great spot once summer time rolls around.

[thug muffin]

Do we know each other?

Runner87 is my wing.

[thug muffin]

1-17-12

I've been running into issues opening solo so today my main objective was to head out at lunch and open a set.

#1
The approach and stop went well. As soon as I opened my mouth though I was slurring like I was hammered. She couldn't understand what I was saying and I didn't really pause that much. My brain and my mouth just aren't up to speed to be quick witted in the beginning so I think a default easy opener is the way to go.

The first few sets of the day I should just make as easy as possible on me and go with the standard
"Hi... I just have to say something and I know this is going to be totally random... I was just over there... when I saw you walking by... and I knew I had to come over here and say Hi... because... You... are... insanely... cute."

What I learned today:
1. Pauses are crucial in the opener. It gives the girl time to catch up to what's happening and processing what you're saying.
2. Initial sets of the day are complete throw a ways. I'm only going to expect them to just help me get into state and go absolutely nowhere.

[thug muffin]

1-19-12

Approaches - 3
Total 69
Goal for this month is to hit 100

I'm using my weekday lunch time outings as practice for me to go solo. I don't get very far in my interactions as it takes me 30 minutes of my 1 hour lunch to locate my balls and do my first approach.

#1
Commented on her vibe. She was from China and didn't really understand me.
I politely ejected.

#2
Opened on her vibe right when she was about to walk into her office building.
Didn't go far as I was very nervous and choppy with my speech

#3
Fun vibe, she jumped a bit as I caught her off guard.
Asked her what type of trouble she was up to and she said shopping.
She had 3 shopping bags that we're purple and pink which actually matched her outfit, so I naturally teased her on it.
I guessed she was shopping for xyz trip.
Her body started to rock in the direction she was going so I politely excused myself.

Now I've hit state and it's on too bad my lunch is over. I look for one more and I see this one girl with a fun walk so I start stalking my prey. Soon as I'm about to pounce she ducks into a purse store and says hi to her friend.

Lessons learned:
I need to figure out a way to get into my sets sooner when I'm out and about. I passed up at least 5 worthy sets.
I'm thinking I need some type of transitional opener to just get into the mood of talking.

[thug muffin]

1-22

Approaches - 10
Total Approaches 79

None of my sets really opened up for me past the 3-5 minute mark. I did have a lot of mistakes today though.
I didn't keep to my script and I just felt sluggish. It didn't help that I was hung over as well.

What I should have done examples:

Her: I'm just out here with my family. They're actually just right over there.
Me: whoa... we just met and you already want me to meet your family


Her: I'm going to school to be a dental technician.
Me: You mean you're going to torture people for a living?