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    OMFG! That is IT! I am giving up on women! I'ma get me some sextoys and just move on

    LOL! I have to laugh otherwise I'll put my fist thru a fucking wall! I have tried over the last year to apply PUA in my life. I have had interactions with girls where I get blown out after 15 mins of attraction and comfort building.

    I have spent so much money going out, trying to display my best self, getting into conversations that lead NO-FUCKING-WHERE. I numberclosed like 1 girl in a year - who then flaked. I spoke to that bitch for near-on an hour. I've spoken to large sets who then blow me out suddenly like I asked them if I could stir their coke with my glans.

    I've tried online game. So much "(un)read deleted", recently, I've gone indirect on POF.com and had a few messages back and forth with girls, who then suddenly stop interacting, or get the wrong idea about a light tease with plenty of smileys and "lols" then block me.

    I just can't be fucked anymore. This is such an overeffort. With all the social dynamics help in the world, I still can't get a girl. It's ironic that for over a decade, I thought I was gay. Not from inner confidence issues, but coz I genuinely thought I was attracted to guys. As that kinda took a backseat, I've come to realize that, in a way - as depressed and suicidal as that made me from 1997-2008, maybe that shielded me from realizing that I am a hopeless loser.

    My friend asked me recently: "What are the 3 best times you've had going to nightclubs?". TWO were where I met my ex. I met her once when she had a BF. Nothing happened. I met her a year later after she'd dumped her BF, but had a baby. A third good time was with some girl, HB4glasses. I didn't even like HER so much, I was just impressed with my game. Then I killed the attraction when she gave me a sip of her drink and I drank it all coz she kept running around the club talking to other guys.

    Lately, coz I am so busy with work and hobbies, I don't even really need a GF. I just want to interact with women, but even that is hard: with no objective, I still fail! I'm thinking of opening girls with: "I'm gay, but..." just so I can enjoy an interaction without a bitch shield. Yes, I know about opening over my shoulder, FTCs, etc.

    It's too hard to get a woman. My ex gf only has 3 weeks between each boyfriend, as her facebook revealed. I know! I shouldn't have looked! I will still use PUA if I can, but I am not going out actively to find girls anymore. It's too disappointing. I am just fucked off! Our forefathers didn't need PUA shit. The social dynamics were just more towards "coupling" in those days. Now, its towards girls selecting men like we're on a shelf. Life is a woman's PERSONAL COCK-BUFFET!

    Men are just snivelling, microbic, hormonal, scavengers - men's "antennae" is their cock. And it leads to us having to try to "woo" a woman into us providing for their:


    - emotional needs.
    - biological needs (i.e. baby, family)
    - sexual needs: men actually pride themselves on how much pleasure they can GIVE (AWAY) to a woman. Women value men on how much pleasure men can give TO THEM. Men have an inbuilt retardation and desperation for validation of their sexual prowess!
    - financial needs.
    - need to blame something on someone: Everything is always men's fault somehow!
    - etc.


    Men are so deluded. Men just provide for a woman's needs. "I get mine too" men might say. Mm, hmm, while you're giving a woman orgasm after orgasm, you do get your compensatory ONE too. Yes, well done.

    Women don't know what they want, yet they want us to give them what they want. They don't want what they can have, but what they can't. They desire stuff that they don't want - read up on women's #1 fantasy: RAPE! But they would never want it really. Women are NEUROTIC and PSYCHOLOGICALLY BACKWARD.

    And I for one am sick of it now! It's fucking me off!! Relationships hardly last these days anyway! All this effort for a few lays and cuddles! I'ma get me an Aneros.com toy and just give up! Women look amazing, but I fucking hate them!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexexx View Post
    LOL! I have to laugh otherwise I'll put my fist thru a fucking wall! I have tried over the last year to apply PUA in my life. I have had interactions with girls where I get blown out after 15 mins of attraction and comfort building.
    That's nothing, I've been in interactions where I get blown out after 8 hours of comfort building and her falling in love, multiple times. I'm also gaming a hyper cute HB10 softcore pornstar. It happens to the best of us and you're getting worked up over nothing.

    I have spent so much money going out, trying to display my best self, getting into conversations that lead NO-FUCKING-WHERE. I numberclosed like 1 girl in a year - who then flaked. I spoke to that bitch for near-on an hour. I've spoken to large sets who then blow me out suddenly like I asked them if I could stir their coke with my glans.
    You probably have some other major problem, just keep at it. It usually take talking to 25 women a week for 25 weeks to go from little to no skill to your first reasonable level of success, assuming you are a socially normal person otherwise.

    I've tried online game. So much "(un)read deleted", recently, I've gone indirect on POF.com and had a few messages back and forth with girls, who then suddenly stop interacting, or get the wrong idea about a light tease with plenty of smileys and "lols" then block me.
    Online game is incredibly subtle and requires some of the best understanding of game there is, it's the worst thing you could try if you don't have it down, avoid it. Either way you're doing it wrong.



    I just can't be fucked anymore. This is such an overeffort. With all the social dynamics help in the world, I still can't get a girl.
    Being around the right material doesn't mean you're getting the best help in the world, you could have a million hours of material if you want and it would still, in the end it's just words on a page, you have to think for yourself to solve your problems and that's the biggest thing.


    It's ironic that for over a decade, I thought I was gay. Not from inner confidence issues, but coz I genuinely thought I was attracted to guys. As that kinda took a backseat, I've come to realize that, in a way - as depressed and suicidal as that made me from 1997-2008, maybe that shielded me from realizing that I am a hopeless loser.
    well knowledge is power, now you know, the only way to get better is to try.

    You'll be happier if you were successful. The only way you'll be successful is if you stick with it, if you quit you're just going to be worse off. That's speaking from personal experience.

    My friend asked me recently: "What are the 3 best times you've had going to nightclubs?". TWO were where I met my ex. I met her once when she had a BF. Nothing happened. I met her a year later after she'd dumped her BF, but had a baby. A third good time was with some girl, HB4glasses. I didn't even like HER so much, I was just impressed with my game. Then I killed the attraction when she gave me a sip of her drink and I drank it all coz she kept running around the club talking to other guys.

    Lately, coz I am so busy with work and hobbies, I don't even really need a GF. I just want to interact with women, but even that is hard: with no objective, I still fail! I'm thinking of opening girls with: "I'm gay, but..." just so I can enjoy an interaction without a bitch shield. Yes, I know about opening over my shoulder, FTCs, etc.

    It's too hard to get a woman. My ex gf only has 3 weeks between each boyfriend, as her facebook revealed. I know! I shouldn't have looked! I will still use PUA if I can, but I am not going out actively to find girls anymore. It's too disappointing. I am just fucked off! Our forefathers didn't need PUA shit. The social dynamics were just more towards "coupling" in those days. Now, its towards girls selecting men like we're on a shelf. Life is a woman's PERSONAL COCK-BUFFET!
    Girls are passive, they don't do much of anything besides throwing themselves out there and being a feather in the wind to those that don't creep them out. You really can't have a problem with women, they don't do much of anything. As for social dynamics it's just a way to learn to socialize, you can learn from people or you can learn from books which are impersonal and harder to understand but will give you really high quality results once you master them in a logical way. Everyone learns social dynamics though in one way or another, I just blatantly ask cool guys how they met their new girlfriends and what they said and then just use that no social dynamics there and it works the same way. Either way you have to learn it's not instinct.


    Men are just snivelling, microbic, hormonal, scavengers - men's "antennae" is their cock. And it leads to us having to try to "woo" a woman into us providing for their:


    - emotional needs.
    - biological needs (i.e. baby, family)
    - sexual needs: men actually pride themselves on how much pleasure they can GIVE (AWAY) to a woman. Women value men on how much pleasure men can give TO THEM. Men have an inbuilt retardation and desperation for validation of their sexual prowess!
    - financial needs.
    - need to blame something on someone: Everything is always men's fault somehow!
    - etc.
    Nonsense, I spend my time with women having them make me sandwitches, forcing them to play Wii sports and giving me blowjobs whenever I feel like it. It's a pretty win situation.

    - emotional needs.

    Women can manage their emotions just fine, they have friends, your job is to be the guy in their life, but that just requires existing and being awesome, it's easy.

    - biological needs (i.e. baby, family)

    These are typically a mutual decision (although sometimes one partner who wants it more bullies the other into it, but that's for losers). It's kind of like deciding to own a dog, not a big deal, if she wants a family bad it's like her being a dog enthusiast, I'm not a baby enthusiast so I don't date women under the premise that will happen.

    - sexual needs: men actually pride themselves on how much pleasure they can GIVE (AWAY) to a woman. Women value men on how much pleasure men can give TO THEM. Men have an inbuilt retardation and desperation for validation of their sexual prowess!

    Nonsense. Sex is sex you have it often everyone's happy, end of story.

    - financial needs.

    This is highly discouraged by society and no women adhere to it any more except creepy gold digger women who have a weird conception of society.

    The original idea (both in the past and in nature) is that the man supports the woman and the woman takes care of the man and the mans kids. Now the woman and the man support themselves and the woman takes care of the man and the kids, or they don't have kids and she doesn't do anything nice for him.

    - need to blame something on someone: Everything is always men's fault somehow!

    I blame women for plenty of things, such as not being able to make me a sandwich in time for a sports event, she admitted she was a slow person.

    Men are so deluded. Men just provide for a woman's needs. "I get mine too" men might say. Mm, hmm, while you're giving a woman orgasm after orgasm, you do get your compensatory ONE too. Yes, well done.
    When you give women orgasms she gets attached to you for it, it's kind of like pushing her button that makes more enthralled with you. I can get blowjobs on demand though again.

    Women don't know what they want, yet they want us to give them what they want. They don't want what they can have, but what they can't. They desire stuff that they don't want - read up on women's #1 fantasy: RAPE! But they would never want it really. Women are NEUROTIC and PSYCHOLOGICALLY BACKWARD.

    -Women don't know what they want
    Women are passive, they want men to lead the way.

    -They don't want what they can have, but what they can't
    Women are spoiled with positive attention because they're often very likable so their only option is to seek things out of their league.

    -Rape
    Women are again passive, they want someone to put them in their place, and they also value the physical strength to overpower someone, they also love their own sexual desirability. I'm sure in a different world women would like smelling farts if it fed their psychological needs. Some people also argue that this is evolutionary where women who liked rape spread their genes more. It's a combination of things which results in an evolutionary glitch like Wisdom Teeth. Either way it makes for an easy role play fantasy, it's not really something to worry about or be pissed over, it's just another button you can press to get her turned on.


    And I for one am sick of it now! It's fucking me off!! Relationships hardly last these days anyway! All this effort for a few lays and cuddles! I'ma get me an Aneros.com toy and just give up! Women look amazing, but I fucking hate them!!!
    Statistics disagree with you, relationships last varying lengths of time.

    In conclusion, I'd just like to restate this part: You'll be happier if you were successful. The only way you'll be successful is if you stick with it, if you quit you're just going to be worse off. That's speaking from personal experience.

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    Thanks Lv3. I do feel that some of your points about women making you a sandwich are a bit...how can I put it? Making you a sandwich is a small price for a woman to pay for you making her eyes roll in the back of her head - not only that, but you actually have more PRIDE the better you can do it. Apart from pornstars, I don't know many women that pride themselves on the pleasure they can give. Possibly, combined with emotionally, women might say: "I take good care of my man", but not specifcally in a sexual way. Of course, there will be the odd exception.

    But this is besides the point. I really can't be bothered anymore. Yes, success would help. Thanks for the encouragement. I just dunno how my success-fail ration can be so one-sided. I've actually started to not call friends to go out anymore. Why bother? I got stuff to do at home. Why validate some girl??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexexx View Post
    Thanks Lv3. I do feel that some of your points about women making you a sandwich are a bit...how can I put it? Making you a sandwich is a small price for a woman to pay for you making her eyes roll in the back of her head - not only that, but you actually have more PRIDE the better you can do it. Apart from pornstars, I don't know many women that pride themselves on the pleasure they can give. Possibly, combined with emotionally, women might say: "I take good care of my man", but not specifcally in a sexual way. Of course, there will be the odd exception.
    I will say that it's harder being a successful guy but it's more rewarding (I also think on the reverse women have more responsibilities). Women are really nice people to those that can lead them and they like. It's definitely more rewarding to be the guy, if you want you can just throw your girlfriend onto the bed, fuck her in the ass and then tell her to masturbate, then make you dinner, then give you a massage, then you take her to a sports event she has no interest in but will enjoy anyways just being around you. That's very pleasing to the guy's side incase you didn't notice, and plenty of women would agree that's their idea of fun.


    But this is besides the point. I really can't be bothered anymore. Yes, success would help. Thanks for the encouragement. I just dunno how my success-fail ration can be so one-sided. I've actually started to not call friends to go out anymore. Why bother? I got stuff to do at home. Why validate some girl??
    I have possibly the worst ability to fail. When I'm not doing well in general I just crash and burn. I quit the game for 2 years, then spent a year just barely learning it again. I had by far the most constant failure rate possible initially until I talked to about 500 women, it was actually ridiculous, I was beyond terrible often. People can wake up one day and find themselves with certain advantages and disadvantages in life, but they can work their disadvantages out of their system with effort. It may seem impossible now but I guarantee it isn't.

    If you quit you'll pretty much ruin your life, companionship and sex is really important to many people's lives and it obviously is to yours, and you'll just be less happy in the end if you quit before you have a fulfilling level of success. Don't delude yourself.

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    This thread is here for attention. If you're going to stop, then stop.

    If you want help, ask the right way.

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    The first thing you guys need to realize is its not just you, youre not alone...

    A lot of us are this way, hence why we are on these forums. The great thing about being a human is we can all improve, I am in the same boat with a lot of you about feeling lonely, etc..

    But you know what you have to realize we all have the ability to improve ourselves, and just have to dig deep and continue to learn what it takes and then take those steps.

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    You have to be very persistent and relentless if you want to master this game. I myself have quit and started again more than once and now i'm finally on the right track. I think the biggest factor is motivation, you need a huge amount of motivation to continue what you're doing if you're not having any success. I restarted all this about a year ago. Not practising, just reading stuff, visiting this forum, reading some e-books again, purely to get my motivation to start again back up. I decided to just be busy with it for 1 hour per day. After about half a year of that I was really motivated to go back into the field and so I did. This was february of this year.

    Then in march i took a bootcamp and that was possibly the biggest motivator of all. I joined the local lair and now have a few wings I can count on to go out with and that also helps keeping motivation up. Since the bootcamp i've been sarging nearly every week and I have done around 235 sets now. I haven't gotten many results from it though. A few numbers that were flakes. A few numbers that responded but never got on a date with. And that's really it. I know where my sticking point is though and I go out to try and overcome it. Motivation from the bootcamp is wearing off though so i'm constantly seeking new things to motivate me. Keeping a journal for instance helps. Writing things down which were on your mind during the sarge helps. And sometimes a very bad night doesn't seem so bad when you write it down in detail and review it the next day.

    Is it rediculous to invest so much time and effort just so you can have women? Perhaps it is, but I want to see for myself if i can make the transformation. Every skill I set out to master I have mastered in the past. And I also will master this one. And this whole thing is making me a better person as well, since i'm regularly sarging i'm a much more confident and happy person. Also i'm tired of the usual drinking nights with AFC friends, it's always the same. Without pickup my life would be one boring routine of work-> weekend getting drunk -> work -> .... Now I have something to live towards to, i have a goal again in life.

    Now you have to decide for yourself if you want to continue this or not. If not you have to completely accept it and not bitch anymore that you don't have women in your life and that you're unhappy. If you do want to continue but you also want to quit, you have mixed feelings about it, my guess is that you're lacking motivation. So you need to somehow get that back. Think about it.
    [QUOTE]For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.[/QUOTE]
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    With your kinda beliefs, it's little wonder women don't give you the time of the day. Remember that everything that is going on externally is a reflection of what goes on internally.

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    You do appear to harbour a lot of ill-will towards women.

    If that is the way that you feel about women, why on earth should they be having sex with you?

    I haven't had sex with a woman for ages, but I don't feel pissed off at them. I actually think most women are really sweet :-)

    I think you need to do some inner game work. Change the mindsets you have about women because they're doing you a lot of harm.

    I also agree with the other posters. I've dropped in and out of game several times. I really is a waste of time. We need to be honest with ourselves. No man is an island, as they say. Guys want companionship and sex. That isn't going to change until we're six feet under.

    And of course we want results. But sometimes we don't get the results straight away. And sometimes we never get the results we want. Imagine a guy who has tried to pick up women unsuccessfully for ten years. He's given everything to the cause but he hasn't got anywhere. Now, you might say that is really depressing. You might consider that guy to be a loser. But in my eyes that guy is a total hero because he's kept on going. He's still fighting for what he wants.

    Winston Churchill put it well when he said: "success is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm."

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    ZachE84 Guest

    Quit your bitchin'

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