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I just came from Brad P 's talk in NY ...
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I just came from Brad P 's talk in NY which was essentially free.
Here is what I got out of the seminar:
a) he is not good looking, which I found very shocking because his game is direct and he usually goes super hardcore on girls. Very interesting to see that, he even said it himself "i am not hot or cute". But seriously,for arguably world's top pua and someone who plays the risky game as he does, I was very surprised and it is a clear testament to the fact that looks don't matter.
b) he gave an amazing talk and he was very social with everyone and made everyone feel good.
c). his ideas about teaching students and how to maximize the learning process of students is pure genius. I can see why he is so good.
d) he dressed up really well, had good body language and was entertaining to listen to.
e) he seemed genuinely in helping out people.
Brad P is simply put, very good at what he does and for $9, I got to hear from the guy for over three plus hours. Best money I have ever spent.
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Brad P 30/30 and Other Year Long Programs
For a few years now, I've been studying PUA material. Magic Bullets , the VAH , The Routines Manual ...I've even been to a bootcamp and this year's SuperConference . While the material is great, I have a difficult time organizing, learning, and internalizing it all. I feel I have all the material in the world, but I feel like I need a structure akin to college curriculum to help put things together and keep me motivated.
Anyone here try it or gone through it? 
| This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene! |
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Brad P 's 30/30 is excellent if you can stick with it for the entire duration and follow the program to a T.
But that's beside the point.
You need to go out more and study less.
Stop reading material, get off of these forums right now, and go out and APPROACH WOMEN. Do not return to these forums or reference any game related material until you have approached 10 women.
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Now that you're back, if you have really assimilated all the material you say you have, been to a bootcamp, and been studying for 3+ years then your lack of progress is entirely your fault. You've been expecting for something other than yourself to do the work that you alone must do, and the only way you will begin to progress is if you spend more time infield approaching .
DVDs, ebooks will only carry you 15% of the way. I've read, watched, and studied a ludicrous amount of game, but it was only when I stopped practicing and started playing that I started really making progress.
Best of luck to you mate, and I hope you understand that this has all been in tough love.
Rip
My life is fucking crazy.
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I've in the 30/30 and Dj Fuji's program. Any year long program that forces you to do approaches and track what your doing is in my opinion the best way to go. I've been
decent but I've gotten a hell of a lot better by doing field reports and having three things at a time to focus on. While I want to study other things. I get my @zz kicked
in the field by studying things that are not relevant to my level.
I used to get the I have a boyfriend response. So I started prizing. Then I got your
a cocky mother fucker then I started qualifying better. Its like lots of adjustments you
make along the way but the field will tell you what you need to work on more than any book or product. The just shorten the learning curve.
Good luck.
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I recently had my one-on-one training with Glenn P. I could not be more happy, and this was worth every penny. Prior to the training I had done maybe 3 cold approaches in my life (all blowouts), and could count the number of girls I had sex with on one hand. I am over 30 years old. With Glenn, I did between 20-40 approaches in 8 hours, and got 5 numbers/emails (including one instant-date with a super-cute girl that lasted 3 hours---I cut the date short myself so I could get more approaches in). I am definitely a changed man.
Glenn took a lot of time outside of the training to get to know me and my situation. He went above and beyond in this regard. Glenn has a lot of really great insights, and I made some huge inner game progress just from chatting with him prior to the session.
The day was pretty much what I expected. I approached, and approached, and approached. Glenn cleaned up my opener a bit, gave me a bunch of great routines (we even worked out some new routines personal to me) and off I went. In between sets, Glenn critiqued the intangibles--body language , positioning, presence--and gave me tips on frame control and where I should have taken the conversations. He would also call my cell while I was in set and let me know if the girls were really attracted. We only had 8 hours, so we didn't get to do any night or bar game, but that's fine with me. The highlight was when he made me open 15-20 sets in 45 minutes. By the end of the day, opening , transitioning and number-closing felt completely automatic. There's a lot of game left to learn, but I feel like I know enough now to take my progress in my own hands, and to make it fun for me.
I haven't studied with anyone else, and have no desire to. Brad and Glenn's stuff appeals to me because it is not about gimmicks and quick fixes. I got exactly what I needed: I got over my fear, and learned how to practice. Anything else that teachers promise you is bullshit, in my opinion. I am ready to make this a part of my day-to-day life.
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Brad P 's June 2010 NY Workshop - A Shift in my Reality!
Brad P 's June 2010 NY Workshop - A Shift in my Reality!
For me this was a transformative weekend when my comfort zone was stretched way beyond my elastic limit! I did stuff that I had never done before to the point where my belief system literally shifted to possibilities that I never imagined before!
With a very healthy student to coaches ratio, we all got the personalized attention, and I had such positive experiences that I thought I'd share with you.
The feedback that I got was so down to the letter that I now have enough to work with in improving my game. The four coaches that I worked directly with were Brad, Jake, Hyper and Glenn.
In sets that I was in at West 4th Washington part, Jake noticed some behavior of mine and body language telegraphing neediness, and I made a mental note of it. In a set at Union Square, Brad noticed my tendency to be rather too reactive to her in an interaction, almost putting her on a pedestal, and I made a mental note of this as well.
During the night game at a club downtown, Glenn and Hyper noticed my lack of presence, and literally kicked my ass into sets that I would normally go into. A classic set was this blond sitting not too far from us, and before I was ready, Glenn goes: "Kojo, you are the shit! None of this nonsense of neediness! You are the man! Go to that girl and fuck her!" Before I could think, I calmly walked over to her, motioned her to make way on her chair, sat on the same chair, put my arms around her, pulled her hair before I even said a word!
My euphoric moment came on the dance floor. I was with Hyper, and while a song I liked was playing, I started dancing, and Hyper was like "Hey Kojo, you’ve got some moves, man! See those 5 girls dancing over there, go over into the middle of that circle and dance with all of them, “elimidating” them in turns!” I had read about Brad doing this on dance floors, and had been to clubs several times, but just did not have the bones to try it.
Before I could think, I just calmly walked over, squished two girls aside and moved in to the middle of the pack and started doing my thing. I held one girl’s hand and had her do the spin for me, and “elimidated” her 30 seconds. Turned to the other girl by the pole and started grinding her against the pole, and she responded by grinding back. In a minute or so into this, I “elimidated” her and started dancing with the 3rd girl. Before I was aware, all five girls were literally grinding at me, and noticed flash lights all around me.
At this moment, a shift happened in my reality and I mentally told myself that “Yeah! I am the shit! I am entitled to all these women”.
While I am not there yet, this has been a transformative weekend, and I have the tools to push my game further. I consider myself a recovering “nice guy”, and over the next few months or so, my task is to work on those key points, and develop my self esteem and sense of entitlement to the women that I have worked so had to develop my skills for. I am the prize, and I am entitled to as many hot chicks that wish to go in for!
Seeing the coaches in action took this to another level altogether. Glenn did a street set at Union Square with a phone close, with Hyper narrating to us each step along the way. Very educational. Jake did a set of about six girls at Washington Square with a number close and narrated this to us after wards. I saw Hyper chilling with a cool chick during the night game in one of the clubs. It was obvious that this chick was into him. Brad's sets were like works of art, with each set painted in it's own unique combination of colors and textures. These are visual images that I can play back over and over again as many times that I wish! I didn't interact with Scotty much 'cause he was always with the other groups, but on the last day, I got to interact with him briefly, and found him to be a really cool guy.
Drew had all these stories of himself that had me up in stitches! All in all, an awesome weekend!
I would encourage any one in the 30/30 club who hasn’t done so to consider a WS. It will vastly improve their game overnight!
Cheers,
Kojo
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Jake P 8 hours 1:1 Coaching Review
I had an 8 hours 1:1 coaching session with Jake P from UDS. Here is my experience.
A little background about me. I have taken two Love Systems night game boot camps and one daytime boot camps. I'm still a beginner. Though, I've learned a lot. And, the boot camps have also made me more confident in general social and work situations. I used to be afraid of going to stores, because a sales person might talk to me. Now, I banter with the cash register girls/guys at the grocery store. They laugh and remember me. I've gotten an in-venue BJ, which I never expected to experience in my whole life time. Though, I'm still often struggling with approach anxiety .
The initial experience with UDS was a little stressful. Drew took my order and told me to expect a call a few days before the 1:1. Jake P would call me to find out what I was looking for and then select a good time and location. The day before I had still not gotten a call. I e-mailed Drew. Drew said that Jake would call me any time. More e-mails to Drew happened and no call came. Finally, a few after more e-mails/calls on the day of the 1:1, it was rescheduled. Quite the bummer after being pumped up about it for weeks. There were also no confirmation e-mails or an e-mail with here is what to expect. From Love Systems , I was used to them really taking care of any potential worries before the boot camps and warm welcome e-mails.
The actual 1:1 was awesome. Jake P meet me at a restaurant in the evening. We got a booth. He gave me a little intro about himself and his method. He got to know me. I was amazed that he was genuinely interested. For one, he was looking to know me a bit to tell me how to introduce myself to girls. He also used my background to tell the girls about it and make me look good. And, he used it to get into my head to figure out my blocks.
Side note, he told me to use my edgy side, for example, how I rappelled off my office building and got in trouble for it. During a set, I told a girl about it. Her face was trying to stifle a yawn. By chance right after that, Jake turned from his girl to tell my girl the same story. Her eyes opened wide and glistened with the first sentence. She was totally amazed at what I had done this time. That was an interesting experience. More later, Jake explained the different reactions to me.
Back in the restaurant, we went on to practice openers and attraction material. I'm always nervous and stiff about this kind of practice. So, I'm grateful about anyone who doesn't give up on my reaction and works to get me better at delivery.
We went to sky bar. Sky bar turned out to be under construction. So, we decided to move on. On the way out, I saw an elegant woman by herself on a coach with a laptop. I decided canon ball into the cold water and open. I did the horse girl opener. Right after asking, if she liked horses. That was enough for her to launch into a long story about horses for her. I though I totally got my opener derailed. Jake later said that it was actually good for her to talk. Within a minute, she moved her clothing to suggest for me to sit down. I didn't know what had happened to me, because I expected a blow out. Jake P joined us.
He was right in the sets the whole evening. He was really great at that. He'd demo sets with me standing right next to him. I'd open sets with him right next to me. That way he could give me great feedback and help me out. I really want to underline how great it was to always have him right there and be able to direct me and give me feedback. That alone makes the 1:1 totally worth it.
Another thing that Jake is great with is pacing. Before the 1:1, I was scared about the intensity of 8 hours of pickup. Pickup has given me the worst head aches of my life from approach anxiety . Jake was really great with pacing everything. He was great with using different activities to avoid getting worn out.
So, we left the girl to move on to a bar. I froze up. The type of people in the bar, where simply the type of people that I never talk to and don't feel anything in common. Jake did a demo. He had me stand right next to him. In the beginning, he had told me that he only does demos for me and not for the girls or himself. So, I should always be right next to him to see and hear everything up close.
It was really refreshing to hear his way of talking with the girls. It was a totally different style from what I had experienced at Love Systems . Hearing variety is really good, because it gives one a better idea of how one's own personal style could fit in. The girls were interested in talking with him at length. They even said a few things to me, even though I was silent and frozen.
Jake asked me to open the next set. I couldn't. He took me to the side on a comfortable coach. He had me talk about what's going on in my head. It really felt like he was a lot of experience talking guys out of their approach anxiety . I got up and opened a girl.
I got up and opened the next girl (two set). While I opened one of them, the other got all interested in talking to me. Jake was there with me. He let me talk. When we randomly started talking at the same time, he let me proceed. He was really supportive the whole time. On an emotional level, it felt so good to be supported and cared for.
An accident happened. I had my hand out to hold the fingers of one girl and admire her finger nails. When I dropped my hand, she raised her other hand with a cigarette. The burning end of the cigarette got my hand. The red hot ashes sprayed and landed inside of the boot of the other girl. She couldn't get to them. She went to the bathroom. She came back reporting that she had burn blisters. I felt horrible, like ready to go home and cry. The girl with the cigarette started saying how it is all my fault. Jake immediately snapped at her, 'he's my friend.' The tone was chilly cold like icicles. The girl swallowed and moved on to another topic. That was an experience alone. Later, I told Jake how I felt bad about it. He said that he thought it was hilarious. It's good to have people demo other options of how to feel about an event.
We did more sets. It was great to have him push me into sets and explain what had happened. There was one set that I had though went horrible. However, he thought it went awesome. I noticed a tendency that I often thought I was doing bad, when Jake thought I was doing great. That's something that no book can teach you. Only life 1:1 feedback of a master can.
So, this one set, a girl was standing at the bar, while her friend were seated. I opened her with horse girl and followed up with an attraction routine. I started with pointing my finger at her. She mimicked my finger with an astonished face. I said the first line. She turned to her friend to tell her friend, what I had just said. She turned back to me. I gave her the next sentence. She'd tell her friend. After a few sentences, she stopped telling her friend everything I said word for word. Instead, she kept asking me over and over 'are you for real?' That definitely wasn't how I expect openers to go.
However, Jake explained that the material was so good and so much better than the average girl that she was amazed. And, he said that she probably held me as the standard to when the next guy would approach her in a few weeks. I never thought that I could say something that would leave an impression on a girl. Especially, because it sounds like girls get hit on multiple times a day. To that, Jake said that I was spending too much time reading forums.
I think this gives you an idea of what goes on in the 1:1. At the end of the night, Jake gave me a debrief. He is a rare person that is really good at social situations and understanding people. He didn't just give me standard advice. He genuinely gave me insights about myself. He even went over time, and asked me repeatedly, if I had any more questions.
Jake is a rare coach. There are old coaches that have the experience, but are bored by ordinary students. There are new coaches that are really motivated, yet don't have the experience. Jake has both, he is really experienced not only in pickup but coaching and he was fully invested in figuring me out and getting me to be better.
The biggest value that I got from the 1:1 was to have live experience of seeing Jake P interact. It's valuable to have people to model. And, he helped change my perception on what was going on with me and sets. I would not have been able to figure that out with books or on my own.
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