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    2 Girls Teach Sex "Ultimate Fantasy Package"

    I got the 2 Girls Teach Sex "Ultimate Fantasy Package" and I was extremely disappointed. Maybe the other product was good, but the one I had was really bad.

    The "Ultimate Fantasy Package" was designed to tackle 3 areas: improving oral sex for both partners, getting your girl to have anal sex, and getting your girl to have a threesome. All of these were areas that I tried tackling with my girl before trying the product but with little success, so I thought the 2 Girls Teach Sex program would have something new for me.

    It didn't.

    From the first 5 minutes of the first DVD I could tell that I would be sending it back for a refund, but I did give each DVD it's fair shot hoping that it would get better. I even watched each DVD twice hoping to pick up on new information that I missed the first time around.

    Basically the entire program was unstructured, with no clear direction, and no sense of the girls actually wanting to teach. It was basically the girls sitting around on the couch having a conversation about sex with no instruction element to it at all. During the one seminar session one of the girls just looked completely bored and like she didn't want to be there at all, and I don't think she said more than 2 words until about 10 minutes left to go in the instruction.

    A lot of their instruction included a lot of "what not to do" and very little helpful advice on "what to do." Now this may be helpful to someone who is very inexperienced, but anyone who has had sex with more than 5 girls would have picked up a lot of this stuff on their own.

    A lot of their instruction included things like "don't just whip out the anal beads and jam them up your girlfriends ass" or "talk to her first about wanting to have a threesome." But they never gave concrete examples of what to say or do. It was all pretty common sense stuff.

    One of the things I wanted to get my girl to do was swallow, which she was never into. And during that part of the instruction both the girls said they didn't like to swallow, so the "host" basically said "well there you have it, girls don't like to swallow" Which I know isn't true because I've had girls in the past that did, just my current gf didn't. So because those 2 girls "teaching" didn't like to swallow, they didn't offer any advice on how to get your girl to do it.

    Another thing I tried to do was get my girl to have anal sex which she wasn't really into. And for the Anal Sex DVD the claim was "get your girl to agree even if she said no in the past" Well there simply wasn't any tips on this at all, the only thing the teachers said on the DVD was "talk to your girl about it before hand." But didn't give any examples on what to say and certainly didn't offer any tips for how to get her to say 'yes' after she's said 'no' in the past.

    On the 3 some DVD's the girls talked about their experiences and a lot of it went something like this: "We were hanging out drinking, and it just happened." One girl actually repeated the phrase "I don't know, it just happened" several times. When a "instructor" says a phrase like that several times you know they're not an effective teacher. There is a big difference between being good at something and being able to teach it, and none of these girls were good at teaching.

    There was absolutely zero step by step instruction on how guys could find the right girl, set up the threesome and smoothly make it happen. One of the claims on that DVD was "where to find the right girl (Hint: it's not a bar)" but then that's all they talked about when initiating the threesome was to "get the alcohol flowing." The other thing they talked about was to "jump in the hot tub" but offered zero tips for guys who don't have one. Basically these girls live that party lifestyle where alcohol, hot tubs, and bi-sexual women are abundant, but there wasn't any concrete advice for a regular joe who doesn't already live that lifestyle.

    On the website for the program there was a long list of things that they say are in the DVD that simply aren't. After watching each DVD twice I still couldn't find the points that were claimed to be there. I actually wrote up an 8 page paper highlighting those points to send back to them asking for clarification but got no response from anyone (I can't say I'm surprised about that.)

    So save your time and money. There's a big difference between being able to do, and being able to teach and these girls are not effective teachers.


       

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    This is ashame because I was really looking forward to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fader View Post
    This is ashame because I was really looking forward to this.
    Yeah I was too. On paper it seems like a great idea because they definitely have different experiences and access to a world that most guys only dream about. But after watching it it's comparable to asking a natural guy how to approach women effectively and he just responds "I don't know, just go up and start talking to them."
       

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    That's why we refused to endorse it -- makes you wonder about every mailing list who was pushing it, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartBoy View Post
    I got the 2 Girls Teach Sex "Ultimate Fantasy Package" and I was extremely disappointed. Maybe the other product was good, but the one I had was really bad.

    The "Ultimate Fantasy Package" was designed to tackle 3 areas: improving oral sex for both partners, getting your girl to have anal sex, and getting your girl to have a threesome. All of these were areas that I tried tackling with my girl before trying the product but with little success, so I thought the 2 Girls Teach Sex program would have something new for me.

    It didn't.

    From the first 5 minutes of the first DVD I could tell that I would be sending it back for a refund, but I did give each DVD it's fair shot hoping that it would get better. I even watched each DVD twice hoping to pick up on new information that I missed the first time around.

    Basically the entire program was unstructured, with no clear direction, and no sense of the girls actually wanting to teach. It was basically the girls sitting around on the couch having a conversation about sex with no instruction element to it at all. During the one seminar session one of the girls just looked completely bored and like she didn't want to be there at all, and I don't think she said more than 2 words until about 10 minutes left to go in the instruction.

    A lot of their instruction included a lot of "what not to do" and very little helpful advice on "what to do." Now this may be helpful to someone who is very inexperienced, but anyone who has had sex with more than 5 girls would have picked up a lot of this stuff on their own.

    A lot of their instruction included things like "don't just whip out the anal beads and jam them up your girlfriends ass" or "talk to her first about wanting to have a threesome." But they never gave concrete examples of what to say or do. It was all pretty common sense stuff.

    One of the things I wanted to get my girl to do was swallow, which she was never into. And during that part of the instruction both the girls said they didn't like to swallow, so the "host" basically said "well there you have it, girls don't like to swallow" Which I know isn't true because I've had girls in the past that did, just my current gf didn't. So because those 2 girls "teaching" didn't like to swallow, they didn't offer any advice on how to get your girl to do it.

    Another thing I tried to do was get my girl to have anal sex which she wasn't really into. And for the Anal Sex DVD the claim was "get your girl to agree even if she said no in the past" Well there simply wasn't any tips on this at all, the only thing the teachers said on the DVD was "talk to your girl about it before hand." But didn't give any examples on what to say and certainly didn't offer any tips for how to get her to say 'yes' after she's said 'no' in the past.

    On the 3 some DVD's the girls talked about their experiences and a lot of it went something like this: "We were hanging out drinking, and it just happened." One girl actually repeated the phrase "I don't know, it just happened" several times. When a "instructor" says a phrase like that several times you know they're not an effective teacher. There is a big difference between being good at something and being able to teach it, and none of these girls were good at teaching.

    There was absolutely zero step by step instruction on how guys could find the right girl, set up the threesome and smoothly make it happen. One of the claims on that DVD was "where to find the right girl (Hint: it's not a bar)" but then that's all they talked about when initiating the threesome was to "get the alcohol flowing." The other thing they talked about was to "jump in the hot tub" but offered zero tips for guys who don't have one. Basically these girls live that party lifestyle where alcohol, hot tubs, and bi-sexual women are abundant, but there wasn't any concrete advice for a regular joe who doesn't already live that lifestyle.

    On the website for the program there was a long list of things that they say are in the DVD that simply aren't. After watching each DVD twice I still couldn't find the points that were claimed to be there. I actually wrote up an 8 page paper highlighting those points to send back to them asking for clarification but got no response from anyone (I can't say I'm surprised about that.)

    So save your time and money. There's a big difference between being able to do, and being able to teach and these girls are not effective teachers.


    I totally agree with this review. The product was big on hype and small on delivery. I can't believe Mehow and Mystery endorsed it, even raved about it.

    The hype was so misleading, it is not a stretch to call it a con.
       

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    I posted the same review on their forum and Dan replied that the guy who runs those programs is actually his former partner. And he was a guy who was really good at marketing, but spent more time doing that than focusing on the actual products.

    It's obvious now that the guy who runs the programs was counting on guys being "fans" of the porn stars as a large part of his marketing strategy. And if a guy is a fan of the porn star, any advice from her would sound very good. Especially if the guy wasn't that experienced himself.

    Luckily I was able to obtain a refund quickly and without any hassle and all that was really wasted was some time. Hopefully this will save other guys some time and money as well.
       

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    Quote Originally Posted by amigo01 View Post
    I totally agree with this review. The product was big on hype and small on delivery. I can't believe Mehow and Mystery endorsed it, even raved about it.
    I can. One of them sold out years ago (do you really think he writes all of those marketing emails that come out under his name) and one never had anything to sell out to begin with. Neither of them probably even saw the product but endorsed it for the $$$.
       

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