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What is the perception of MM-style pick up Australia? Do ...
Question about Australian pick-up scene
What is the perception of MM-style pick up Australia? Do women in general have any clue what's going on when it comes to pick up? How big/small is the pick up scene there?
I'll be moving from Australia (Newcastle to be specific) soon so I'm wondering if anything is different over there. I would appreciate any input.
The pickup scene is nowhere as big as that in the UK and USA. There are obviously people here that practice becoming better with woman and you will be able to find them in any city you go too...just need to look around the net for local forums. Im personally in Sydney which is 2 - 2 1/2 hour drive from Newcastle so I can help you out if your ever in the area. Even though there may not be as much of us as our overseas counterparts, there are definitely guys here who are good, and you can definitely learn from.
Most woman here have little to no idea about "the game" Ive only been caught out once ages ago. But honestly, I wouldnt care if i got caught out again. Have fun with it.
PM me if you want any more info...
+1. It is nothing like the US as far as PUA exposure. It's like going back in time for you American fellows.
"Crackheads have six-packs for a reason, and it's not cable crunches" - Vapor
Caught? I'm just curious about how much exposure MM has Australia. I've been doing MM for several years now and I've never been called out and even if I was girls are too still too dumb to understand how it really works. All they can recognise are the lines they might of heard before - not even a surface understanding of it. It's also easily reframed...
It's good to hear though that Australia isn't being sarged out. Actually my biggest fear back then was that MM would become mainstream where I lived. I heard a while back how "the game" was going to become a movie and i thought it would just catch on like wildfire. But after so many tv shows, pua shows, nothing has really changed, even in NA. People are just have too much fear about learning it. Half the guys I talked to about it think they are above it, the other half think it's interesting but have no plans to learn. It's very counter intuitive that guys don't grasp onto it but when you think about it, it makes sense. People follow their gut reaction when it comes to MM and their gut reaction is almost always "it's bad, walk away".
The fact of the matter is, MM is too hard to learn and understand. I've been reading material and practicing for 6 years and I'm only beginning to understand how it all works and fits together. Even now, I still have so many sticking points... I'm not trying to become an expert PUA, I just want to be able to get it wherever I am on the planet. It would be nice to meet some of you if you're in my area. I'll be arriving in late Jan.
like most things in life (not just pick up!) when you are living here down under we are anywhere from a few months behinds to YEARS behind what they're doing in america!
The Auckland Lair
And if you're in Adelaide, the general attitudes are about another 5-10 years behind again. It's hard to get wings here, people just seem convinced that buying drinks for the hottest girl in the club is going to work for them.
I go out all the time and run MM game and get called on it quite frequently in Sydney. I actually have a stack just for the occasion . If you use your own material and stay away from opinion openers you should be okay.
There is a reporter that thinks she is in with a bunch of "PUA's" and you see her poor journalism when she regurgitates community material in her column in a national magazine. Its both amusing and frustrating.
My opinion there is some kind of awareness among alot of girls that go to the more popular venues in the city. I actually had a f-close recently when the girls started talking about how my wing and I could be "gamers" and I had to hide my smirk. I did my girl about an hour later. It was just so much more satisfying. Yes I know I am a sick bastard
Welcome to the land down under....
Newcastle girls are smarter so will pick up routines more often, but generally the concepts of the Game are completely unknown to them. I'm from Newcastle myself and it has NEVER been suggested to me that this might be going on by many of my female friends (even when i have witnessed them picked up once or twice by guys obviously using MM)..... There are very few of us actively sarging here and a few of us (but not me) are more naturals that are interested in learning more anyway.
The secret to ALL success is the same - patience, practice and confidence.
A link to the 'journalist' you're referring to? Would make for entertaining reading...
Originally Posted by The Fornicator
oh and back OT, Oz/NZ are similar and I know in NZ we're basically a few years behind America so relatively unheard of here although now and then you'll bump into randoms who are aware of it. No big deal.
The Auckland Lair
Google Samantha Brett. You will have your answers.
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