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    Ultimate AFC Email... Good read...

    i stumbled across this email from a huge AFC... reading it i could point out some traits that i used to have. it's got every good example of what not to do...

    óó Message From: Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 14:19:39 -0500 To: Subject: Hi Lauren

    Hi Lauren,

    Iím disappointed in you. Iím disappointed that I havenít gotten a response to my voicemail and text messages.

    FYI, I suggest that you keep in mind that emails sound more impersonal, harsher, and are easier to misinterpret than in-person or phone communication. After all, people canít see someoneís body language or tone of voice in an email. Iím not trying to be harsh, patronizing, or insulting in this email. Iím honest and direct by nature, and Iím going to be that way in this email. By the way, I did a google search, so thatís how I came across your email.

    I assume that you no longer want to go out with me. (If you do want to go out with me, then you should let me know.) I suggest that you make a sincere apology to me for giving me mixed signals. I feel led on by you.

    Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:

    -You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation. You can even do a google search on it. When a woman plays with her hair, she is preening. Iíve never had a date where a woman played with her hair as much as you did. In addition, it didnít look like you were playing with your hair out of nervousness.

    -We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, Iíve never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.

    -You said, ďIt was nice to meet you.Ē at the end of our date. A woman could say this statement as a way to show that she isnít interested in seeing a man again or she could mean what she saidĖthat it was nice to meet you. The statement, by itself, is inconclusive.

    -We had a nice conversation over dinner. I donít think Iím being delusional in saying this statement.

    In my opinion, leading someone on (i.e., giving mixed signals) is impolite and immature. Itís bad to do that.

    Normally, I would not be asking for information if a woman and I donít go out again after a first date. However, in our case, Iím curious because I think our date went well and that there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship. Of course, itís difficult to predict what would happen, but I think there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship developing between us one day (or least there was before your non-response to my voicemail and text messages).

    I think we should go out on a second date. In my opinion, our first date was good enough to lead to a second date.

    Why am I writing you? Well, hopefully, we will go out again. Even if we donít, I gain utility from expressing my thoughts to you. In addition, even if you donít want to go out again, I would like to get feedback as to why you wouldnít want to go again. Normally, I wouldnít ask a woman for this type of feedback after a first date, but this is an exception given I think we have a lot of potential.

    If you donít want to go again, then apparently you didnít think our first date was good enough to lead to a second date. Dating or a relationship is not a Hollywood movie. Itís good to keep that in mind. In general, I thought the date went well and was expecting that we would go out on a second date.

    If youíre not interested in going out again, then I would have preferred if you hadnít given those mixed signals. I feel led on. We have a number of things in common. Iíll name a few things: First, weíve both very intelligent. Second, we both like classical music so much that we go to classical music performances by ourselves. In fact, the number one interest that I would want to have in common with a woman with whom Iím in a relationship is a liking of classical music. I wouldnít be seriously involved with a woman if she didnít like classical music. You said that youíre planning to go the NY Philharmonic more often in the future. As I said, I go to the NY Philharmonic often. Youíre very busy. It would be very convenient for you to date me because we have the same interests. We already go to classical music performances by ourselves. If we go to classical music performances together, it wouldnít take any significant additional time on your part. According to the internet, youíre 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, weíre a good match in terms of age. I could name more things that we have in common, but Iíll stop here. I donít understand why you apparently donít want to go out with me again. We have numerous things in common. I assume that you find me physically attractive. If you didnít find me physically attractive, then it would have been irrational for you to go out with me in the first place. After all, our first date was not a blind date. You already knew what I looked like before our date. Perhaps, youíre unimpressed that I manage my familyís investments and my own investments. Perhaps, you donít think I have a ďrealĒ job. Well, Iíve done very well as an investment manager. Iíve made my parents several millions of dollars. Thatís real money. Thatís not monopoly money. In my opinion, if I make real money, itís a real job. Donald Trumpís children work for his company. Do they have ďrealĒ jobs? I think so. George Sorosís sons help manage their family investments. Do they have ďrealĒ jobs? I think so. In addition, Iím both a right-brain and left-brain man, given that Iím both an investment manager and a philosopher/writer. Thatís a unique characteristic; most people arenít like that. Iíve never been as disappointed and sad about having difficulty about getting a second date as I am with you. Iíve gone out with a lot of women in my life. (FYI, Iím not a serial dater. Sometimes, Iíve only gone out with a woman for one date.) People donít grow on trees. I hope you appreciate the potential we have.

    Am I sensitive person? Sure, I am. I think itís better to be sensitive than to be insensitive. There are too many impolite, insensitive people in the world.

    I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens. Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you havenít returned my messages) than I did at our first date. However, I would be willing to go out with you again. Iím open minded and flexible and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I wish you would give me the benefit of the doubt too. If you donít want to go out again, in my opinion, you would be making a big mistake, perhaps one of the biggest mistakes in your life. If you donít want to go out again, then you should have called to tell me so. Even sending a text message would have been better than nothing. In my opinion, not responding to my messages is impolite, immature, passive aggressive, and cowardly. I spent time, effort, and money meeting you for dinner. Getting back to me in response to my messages would have been a reasonable thing for you to do. In addition, you arrived about 30 minutes late for our date. Iím sure you wouldnít like it if a man showed up thirty minutes late for a first date with you.

    If youíre concerned that you will hurt my feelings by providing specific information about why you donít want to go with me again, well, my feeling are already hurt. Iím sad and disappointed about this situation. If you give information, at least I can understand the situation better. I might even learn something that is beneficial.

    If you donít want to go out again, that I request that you call me and make a sincere apology for leading me on (i.e., giving me mixed signals). In my opinion, you shouldnít act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. Itís bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if youíre not interested in going out with me again. I have tried to write this email well, but itís not perfect. Again, Iím not trying to be harsh, insulting, patronizing, etc. Iím disappointed, sad, etc. I would like to talk to you on the phone. I hope you will call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx> (if itís inconvenient for you to talk on the phone when you read this email, you can let me know via email that you are willing to talk on the phone and Iíll call you). If you get my voicemail, you can a leave a message and I can call you back. Even if you donít want to go out again, I would appreciate it if you give me the courtesy of calling me and talking to me. Yes, you might say things that hurt me, but my feelings are already hurt. Sending me an email response (instead of talking on the phone) would better than no response at all, but I think it would be better to talk on the phone. Email communication has too much potential for misinterpretation, etc.

    Best, Mike



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    Wooowwww LMAO

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    If it wasn't for "The Game", "Magic Bullets", TAF, and good friends, I would still be that guy.
    Hey, it's all just advice. You can go out there and do whatever the FUCK YOU WANNA DO! - Hodgetwins

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    Quote Originally Posted by d_downs View Post
    If it wasn't for "The Game", "Magic Bullets", TAF, and good friends, I would still be that guy.
    Cmon, that bad??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubman View Post
    Cmon, that bad??
    At 17, YES!! Unfortunately.

    Who I am now is not who I was 2 years ago. I didn't know anything about game, believed that getting laid was a game of chance (much like the lottery), asked girls for girl advice, and thought if I poured out my heart like the guys in chick flicks do, I'd score.

    If I hadn't deleted some messages for NC, I would post the 8 or so pages I wrote (cringe worthy) to a girl as a "Don't fucking do this!" thread.

    Live and learn.
    Hey, it's all just advice. You can go out there and do whatever the FUCK YOU WANNA DO! - Hodgetwins

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    Haha we should start a "needy things you said/did thread".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubman View Post
    Haha we should start a "needy things you said/did thread".

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    Jeez do I have a few of those from back in the day ...

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