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    Not getting ANY replies from POF!!!

    http://www.plentyoffish.com/member18197876.htm thats my profile, I cannot even get ONE reply from a girl on that site!

    not ONE. I am sending standard pickup messages, I think the problem is my profile...

    Please Help, any advice is welcomed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Shouse View Post
    http://www.plentyoffish.com/member18197876.htm thats my profile, I cannot even get ONE reply from a girl on that site!

    not ONE. I am sending standard pickup messages, I think the problem is my profile...

    Please Help, any advice is welcomed!
    Seems a bit to try hard to me. "look at me I am funny". Some of the lines are good, but most of them are pretty lame. Its alright to have a few funny lines, but when it's all jokes people start to think "what is this guy thinking?"

    Look at it this way, if you saw a guy with that profile, would it make you laugh?

    You do want to portray you aren't taking this very seriously, but you also need to have a reason for women to message you. Throw a sentence or two about your ambitions, show you are more then just a clown.

    I have only opened one girl on POF but I do get a message probably every ime I log in. I am sure you have checked out Cajuns sticky, but he influenced by profile he most(with a bit of help from _Cane_)

    and and change "Looking for" to friends instead of dating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Shouse View Post
    http://www.plentyoffish.com/member18197876.htm thats my profile, I cannot even get ONE reply from a girl on that site!

    not ONE. I am sending standard pickup messages, I think the problem is my profile...

    Please Help, any advice is welcomed!
    First opinions - change the main profile photo, it looks as if you have a girlfriend. Save any social proofing photos for back-up. Ask yourself - would you want to date someone you thought was in a relationship?

    Regarding the text - all those I's at the start come across as a bit egotisitical

    That was within 30 seconds of looking at your profile - girls will do the same

    Just my 2c worth.

    In my experience the problem with response to mails is typically a result of the opener mails NOT the profile.

    Provide a sample of what you're opening with

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    No one likes it when I say this but, here goes, online game is the refuge of the weak.

    Women get 50-100 emails a day, from afcs telling them how pretty they are to desperate creeps showing their peen.

    Get out to the point you can open 50 sets a day, and you'll be a lot happier. If you want to meet the girls who post online, start going day game, grocery store pickups, maximize opportunities.

    If you really want to improve your online game, change your profession from artist to something not doctor or lawyer but close, remove the banter at the bottom and change to "I am young and successful drivel drivel looking to share my life with the right girl", post picts of you in front of a BMW and then shit test the girls in gold digger mode as preemptive damage control. The sarcastic playful banter on your profile does not work as it gives no real info about you. You won't believe it but you have to go plain vanilla. Censor the picture of the girl.
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    And change your profile name somewhere so if googled it doesn't follow you back here
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPupPup View Post
    Get out to the point you can open 50 sets a day, and you'll be a lot happier. If you want to meet the girls who post online, start going day game, grocery store pickups, maximize opportunities.
    I do agree with your post but you have to understand that opening 50sets a day isn't possible for some people. I am going to film school, I have 9 classes I am at school 7+ hours a day(my record so far is 15 hours straight on campus) and am usually at school on weekends as well finishing up homework and projects. It's a 2year intensive course, when I say intensive I mean 24months of straight school with only a few breaks(each break is a week at max)

    Even if I do get out of school at 430 I am so exhausted all I care about is going home and making dinner, I am not in the mindset to be talking to people(depends on the day).

    If I am in a chatty mood, yeah I will open sets or whatever but at the moment school is my number one priority, so when it comes to sarging social circle/online game are really the only options I have.

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    it's also counterproductive to tell someone to go open sets in person when they're asking for constructive criticism about their online profile. this is the equivalent of telling someone who's wondering why they're getting blown out at a club to go on the computer instead.

    to the OP: I'd consider changing your first date copy to something funny like Cajun has or other people in this forum have previously used

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewzilla View Post
    it's also counterproductive to tell someone to go open sets in person when they're asking for constructive criticism about their online profile. this is the equivalent of telling someone who's wondering why they're getting blown out at a club to go on the computer instead.
    Jewzilla Good point and I agree and if I had just done that the man would deserve an apology --- But to be fair, not only did I read and review the man's profile I wrote a paragraph there that was chocked full of stuff you must have missed:


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    change your profession from artist to something not doctor or lawyer but close,
    remove the banter at the bottom
    and change to "I am young and successful drivel drivel looking to share my life with the right girl",
    post picts of you in front of a BMW
    and then shit test the girls in gold digger mode as preemptive damage control.
    The sarcastic playful banter on your profile does not work as it gives no real info about you.
    You won't believe it but you have to go plain vanilla.
    Censor the picture of the girl. >>>>>>>

    You may not agree with what I wrote and that's cool but *ahem* I did try to give some constructive critz thank you.

    Further elaboration now that I am back here.... The girls are looking to make a legit connection - It used to be you had to be really cocky funny to stand out. Nowadays online has become so polluted with profiles like VSs guys troll and create fake profiles pretending to be girls just to get goldmine snippets from emails sent to them and as a barometer to see what the trends are of what is being said online. Some of these might seem a bit off the wall, I am mainly advocating going the opposite route and changing the profile to test for responses and advocating doing hard false qualifications to the girls that respond.

    I understand what Kruise is saying and can respect that and notice I didn't slam him for it. I could still disagree with him and my counter point and example would be (Because I did not do a good job explaining it in my first post) = Hot girls are everywhere. You'll come across millions of opportunities in your lifetime. If you are at a gas station, pumping gas and a hot chick drives up do you not only know what to say but have practice under your belt doing it? if you can do that you can open at any venue. You'll never get it lurking online and I guarantee that the girl will be a hundred percent less likely to flake. I want to see you succeed, and so it's tough love. I do you a disservice holding back.

    That said back to online, I don't know if Fish is a free site or not, switch to a pay site, it weeds out the trolls better and girls are more likely to reply back on a subscription they are paying for. But gils are cheap and a lot of profiles are one-way as they don't subscribe and can't write back. Also note a lot of subscription services auto delete your email from your messages on those sends so the girls can't bypass the system.

    Lastly change your zip code to a more desirable neighborhood. I am not an advocate of lying one of the many reasons I ditched online love. That said if you are going to live and die by online expect a lot of little things to weed you out. The guys who do best are the ones who look good on paper.
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    Lespupup thank you for your advice.

    As for opening messages I send, I send the ones people recomend.

    Have tried everything, from "do you like milk with ice?"

    to pointing out somthing funny in her profile as humour,

    to the lil sis line, and several others, as well as original ones.

    I think, and I may be wrong, but from what I hear most girls LOOK AT PHOTOS before they even read the about me.

    So my #1 priority is to revamp my photos. I currently have no drivers license but I got a girl who is gonna photograph me so I can hopefully get some DHV photos in the next wee.

    Question I took out a lot of the "I sdfasdfdsf banter" lines, there are still 8 left. They are what I feel are my best ones, with some real shit underneath, should I use even less, like 2-3, or eliminate them alltogether?

    and yes I got a lot of what I have done from cane, need to put more emotional language perhaps. but its hard because I AM an artist, this is gonna take time -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPupPup View Post
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    I understand what Kruise is saying and can respect that and notice I didn't slam him for it. I could still disagree with him and my counter point and example would be (Because I did not do a good job explaining it in my first post) = Hot girls are everywhere. You'll come across millions of opportunities in your lifetime. If you are at a gas station, pumping gas and a hot chick drives up do you not only know what to say but have practice under your belt doing it? if you can do that you can open at any venue. You'll never get it lurking online and I guarantee that the girl will be a hundred percent less likely to flake. I want to see you succeed, and so it's tough love. I do you a disservice holding back.

    That said back to online, I don't know if Fish is a free site or not, switch to a pay site, it weeds out the trolls better and girls are more likely to reply back on a subscription they are paying for. But gils are cheap and a lot of profiles are one-way as they don't subscribe and can't write back. Also note a lot of subscription services auto delete your email from your messages on those sends so the girls can't bypass the system.

    Lastly change your zip code to a more desirable neighborhood. I am not an advocate of lying one of the many reasons I ditched online love. That said if you are going to live and die by online expect a lot of little things to weed you out. The guys who do best are the ones who look good on paper.

    Fair enough, you defiently know what you are talking about and I appreciate all the time you put into your posts(your proper game post is money.)

    I do agree that online game should not be the thing you rely on for meeting women, I made an account because I was bored and have met a few cool girls through it(number closed and working on day 2's) but it defiently doesn't beat meeting women out in venues.

    I still do get nervous approaching at bars or whatever and I have used online as an excuse a few times. Nothing beats shocking girls though, seeing I am a huge fan of the horse girl opener it's one of my favorites along with the high five one. The only thing with number closing out at bars is school takes up all of my free time and I can't really get a day 2's because I only really get like maybe 2 days a month that I am free to go out and do stuff. It's hard to hold attraction when you have to wait a week to hangout.

    I am not complaining though, I have never been so dedicated to school in my life and the results/pay offs are really satisfying. I know what my priorities are but at the same time I am really working on building a strong social circle, which when I do have free time will be much easier then cold approach.

    Thanks again, I look forward to any of your future posts and I hope you stick around for awhile.

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