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It seems like every online conversation I get ...
WTF could I possibly be doing wrong?
It seems like every online conversation I get in, it stalls and after about the 3rd or 4th exchange I never hear from them again. The stacks I've been trying are all field tested tried and true stuff off the forum. I get them hooked with a hot/cold opener. Try a cold read with a toothless neg, maybe run some humorous peacocking or role play, then after I get back another IOI I may attempt to run WYR. Nothing. It always seems to run its coarse at that point.
I'm starting to think online sarging is pointless, or else I'm just picking the wrong targets. You think women can be flakey in real life just think of how easy it is for them to be flakey online. TrueStory. Seriously guys, how high of a persentage from all the ones that you open do you actually close?
Can we see your profile, and/or some of the messages you send/receive?
Appearing confident is not about expressing confidence. Itís about confidently expressing everything else.
-Wayne Elise (Juggler)
I sort of feel the same, I think online is totally different. Negs and cocky funny are a little hard to use, since unless you make it VERY clear you are joking, they think you are serious and you are then deleted.
I think the best route, is get attraction then get MSN asap which is a little easier to deal with, go from there.
Will this stuff show up on Google?
Originally Posted by JaggedG
Alright I'll post 'em tomarrow. I don't have enough time at this moment to get them together. Maybe in the evening...
Thats the nature of online game. Hate to break it to ya, but girls are going to flake, even if they appear interested at first. They are LOOKING for excuses to disqualify you, bc they can always move on to the millions of other guys online. So as long as you remain UNIQUE from those other guys, your game should improve. After 4 months of recreational online game, I now just began a LTR with a HB I met online. I went through my phone just now to tally my final numbers.
In a little less than 4 months, I got 32 phone numbers, went on 14 first dates, 6 of whom I went with multiple meetups/dates, F closed 4 of those, and kept the best as my new LTR. She is a stellar match for me, not to mention a tad bit out of my league looks wise haha.
Trust me I am not the most attractive guy, I am overweight and underpaid, but I found online game to be really easy. Yes there were a TON of Flakes, even ones I got numbers from(and text game is my strongest PUA talent btw), but thats just part of the online dating game. Good luck, and I hope things work out for the better...just remember, BE DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER AFC OUT THERE, and you will succeed. If I can do it, you can!
Originally Posted by Rockynova
I think you've slipped into being the online entertainer for these girls. Typically my opener hints at meeting the girl in real life and my profile does too. When I get a reply to my opener I push/lead to meeting in real life - usually this will smoke out the pointless ones - those that want to chat for 6 zillion hours or those that want the equivalent in mails. They are either online to meet people in the real world or NOT - you need to find that out quick. You MUST progress with each mail or it WILL just slip into email tennis, never going anywhere at best.
From what you've written you're NOT pushing for the offline meet and you should do that 1st or 2nd mail - save any routines you haven't used in those mails for the real life meet.Also you need to make sure you chase up the girls that drop out - if they fail to acknowledge a mail give it 3 or 4 days then send a polite reminder.If they reply then push for the meet if they fail to reply to the reminder let them go.
Online sarging is NOT pointless - it's far different from the real world, and you must adopt a different strategy- if I can get 30 plus meets in a few months then anyone can. Seriously I'm probably the geekiest guy on this board. From my stats I would expect to get 1 or 2 meets from possibly 10 girls/women I contact.
If you are using a specific online site it is worth changing and trying other sites. I've used a variety and have had NO luck using OKCupid despite using the same strategies as other sites. I can only conclude that different sites attract different girls.
Just my 2c worth
Me: Aw do you want a lollipop?(in response to her headline saying 'not looking forward to valentines day)
Me:Cause you're not looking forward to heart day
Her:haha oooh. yes please!
Me:Lol how did heart day treat you? Cause technically its over now
Her:It turned out to be alright actually. But I'm glad its over
Me:Lol aw. What did you do? Go ice skating and drink hot chocolate to ease the pain
Her: I wish! I'm doing that tomorrow
I cooked dinner for me 3 best friends and then went to watch valentines day at the theatre.
Me: Lol oh that sappy movie that is like a repeat of He's just not that into you? How was it? I bet you went for Taylor Lautner haha jk.
You cooked dinner and didn't invite me over? Way to go Ashley(I assume that's your name) hehe
Her:t's not sappy! Its so much more different than that movie haha. It was really good! Taylor is seeeexy, but a horrible actor in this movie!
I'm sorrrrrry! There's left overs if you'd like !
No actually my name's ......
Just kidding haha.
Me: Lol oh a movie enthusiast and a cook. Aren't you special(I start cutting the BS)
Well Ashley, there is this thing called a cell phone. Amazingly it can be used for texting or calling. I prefer to text. What about you?(I think you see where I'm going lol)
Her: You dont want my number do you?
Me: Lol what do you think? I don't put sentences like that everyday for nothing
Then I texted her. Although she is a biatch to text. I number closed by making one observation of their profile. Running with it. Then making a reference to meeting in real life. Its easier if they write paragraphs. So you don't have to do dumb one liners each message. Use symbols accordingly like :P lol lmao rofl haha hehe and all that stuff so you don't come off as an asshole when you're joking.
Originally Posted by PortentousPilot
1.) How many girls did you think you opened online out of those 4 months? Or what percentage were successful?
2.) What site or sites did you use?
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