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    Field Tested Comfort Building and #Close Routine THAT WORKS

    Have you ever opened a girl on PoF, and were stuck for something to talk about? Not sure how to ask her for her number? Well look no further...

    Ok guys, after my recent success with online dating(thanks to this forum), I feel its about time to share a routine that I have perfected and had GREAT success with. This is a comfort building routine that has a number close routine built in. THIS IS NOT AN OPENER...I have field tested this extensively, but only as a comfort routine, and not an opener. I basically have combined a bunch of material from this forum(This is mostly based on the popular "Questions Game" routine you can read about in the comfort building forum) and arranged it into a successful routine. Thanks again to EVERYONE on this forum who has posted their material, as the basis of this routine is from multiple PUA's on TAF...

    After finally perfecting the routine, I field tested it on 16 girls on PoF, and I have gotten 15 phone numbers! The 16th one wasn't comfortable giving her number just yet, and gave me her AIM and email address instead. So once again, this is a very successful COMFORT BUILDING/NUMBER CLOSE routine....NOT field tested as an opener.


    OK. Here's how it goes...

    After you successfully open an HB, send her this message:

    Let's play a "get to know each other" game... It's called "Would You Rather?" and it's pretty self explanatory. I'll go first:

    WYR: Blah blah blah

    or

    Blah blah blah


    AND WHY??


    You can use a variety of questions, and I'll give you some of the examples I have used later...Important note: The first WYR question should NOT be sexual in nature. In fact the first few should not be sexual in nature UNLESS SHE initiates it...

    After she responds, if she doesn't ask you a different question in return, send her this:

    Good answer! It's your turn to ask me a question, dork;P p.s. No boring questions allowed!



    OK, now you should continue this back and forth WYR questioning to build comfort. It is important that you make them interesting questions, and not boring questions. Keep her interested! If she asks you a boring question, tell her "Boring Question, try again". Once again note, do not escalate to sexual questions UNLESS she brings one up first(It happened with 5 of the last 16 girls). There are plenty of example questions that can subconsciously escalate HER to ask a sexual WYR question first...I'll give you a few examples later.

    Now, after a few back and forth questions(4 different each is what I always asked before going for the number in my field tests, enough to build plenty of comfort) here's where the magic happens, the clutch of the routine so to speak...the NUMBER CLOSE...so, after a few back and forth WYR questions I'll send her this:

    ok my turn:

    WYR: Give me your number now so we can continue our game via text message

    or

    Make me beg for it and continue this horribly inefficient process of email tag?
    (Hint, I NEVER beg for phone numbers)


    Yep. That's it. It's that simple. It took quite a bit of trial and error to come up with the perfect wording...this is the final product of the trial and error, and the question I asked all 16 HBs in my final field testing. Note, it is VERY important that you don't leave out the "Hint, I NEVER beg for phone numbers"...It shows your dominance and alpha-ness, and it infers that if she's not willing to give you her number, then she will be nexted...I don't think I need to explain it much further, you get the idea...

    And that's it! If she sh*t tests you(it happened with 2 of the 15 hbs), just plow though it. all I said with both of them is "Listen I'm not gonna beg for your number, so if you aren't interested in talking further, there is no sense in wasting both of our time, right? I hope this isn't the case, because you have done a good job at making me laugh". They gave me their numbers right after that. Boom. Done.

    Best part is, you can continue this WYR game into your text conversation! No excuse for being stumped for something to talk about again! Oh this routine works wonders...and it's SOOO simple!





    Here are a few examples of WYR questions I have used. Please help add some to the list. The more examples we all can come up with, the better!

    Non-sexual questions:

    WYR:

    As a second car/toy, Own a Jeep Wrangler, or own a Corvette?

    Live in the mountains, or in a big city?

    Spend a day on the water on a jet ski, or lay on the beach all day?

    Be able to fly, or be invisible?

    There's literally a million different question you can ask her that are non sexual...please feel free to add more!



    Here are the questions to inspire HER to escalate to a sexual level:

    Be the victim of a pillow fight, or Tickle Fight?

    Get a full body massage, or relax in a jacuzzi?

    Go skydiving or mountain climbing with a significant other, or Spend a romantic night with your significant other watching a sappy movie with dim light and candles?

    etc...You get the idea...



    And finally for the sexual questions, I just used some of the sexually charged questions from the multiple "Questions game" posts in the comfort building section in these forums...there are tons available.




    Well I hope this helps, and please feel free to add some example questions to the list!



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    Great routine! I've been doing something similar by 2nd email, but this is way more streamlined. I wouldn't call it a comfort routine though, since there's no such thing as comfort thru internet (comfort REQUIRES kino, no kino no comfort).

    The real power of this comes from her qualifying herself more and more, and that when its your turn you get to DHV. Even better, giving her the option of SOMETHING and SOMETHING is a much better way of qualifying than a normal question-based qualifyer (which gives the option of SOMETHING or NOTHING). Naturally, ppl prefer to have options, so this method works even better in A3 than in comfort for online game.

    Fantastic routine, its going into my repetoire for sure!
    Mods: If possible, please change forum handle to:
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    I like it.. I'll have to try it out.. I normally try and escalate it after the second message either asking for IM or phone number but I like this too. Nice work

    ~Legacyman

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    Zak, good point about the kino thing...you are right, you can't actually build comfort without kino, but at least this routine gives you headway to make comfort and kino easier for when you actually meet up. Let's face it, the better you know each other, the easier kino will be to initiate, and this routine helps you learn A LOT about each other without realizing it.

    You are also correct in that this line of questioning forces her to qualify herself. This also give me the opportunity to give C&F remarks about her answers which gives me higher value. AND as long I add extra C&F humor to my answers to her WYR questions, it builds my value even more...Win/win...

    You are also correct that people like answering questions with options than not. Best part is, I can tailor my questions and possible answers to build myself up and get her to answer my questions with MY own words...especially the number close question...I'm not exactly giving her the opportunity to say NO to giving me her number...basically the options are 1) Give me your number now, or 2) Talk some more, and give me your number eventually. And after running text game and its time to ask her to meet up for a day 1, I'll pull this one out:"Would you rather meet up saturday afternoon or next weds?". Once again, not giving her the option to say no(also shows dominance)...Also Win/win...

    And legacy, I know from other posts that you like to go for Instant messenger first, and that's just fine...you can use this routine through your online chat too! I don't bother going for the AIM convo, I find it a waste of my time, plus I am much more experienced at text game than AIM, but I know a few guys who rely on the AIM convos, and they are VERY successful with it. So it seems either way works...I just find it more efficient to send an extra email or 2, then go straight for the number, but that's just me...

    BTW. I got another number yesterday, which makes 16 for 17...I'm finding that its getting difficult to keep every conversation organized, and which number goes with which conversation online...I've never had the problem of having too many conversations going on at once until now...haha I guess thats a good thing...

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    Epic fail. I asked for the number she made me beg, i droped the line and she read and deleted the msg haha But ill deff give this another try!

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    Wow. Sorry to hear that. I still haven't run into any curve balls yet with this...how many back and forth questions did you ask? Maybe you went to the number too early...you kinda have to calibrate judging by the length of their answers and their perceived interest in you before you pop the number close question...for me it has mostly been around 3-4 questions EACH(3 from me, 3 from her), but there were two where I wasn't sure they were gonna give me their number due to their short answers to my questions...for them it went back and forth 6 times, but they still eventually gave me their numbers when I went for the # close...

    BTW, I have had two very interesting WYR questions asked to me by two different girls this week...

    First one via email: "WYR keep emailing or switch to Yahoo messenger with me?"(That's right she pulled MY routine on ME, hahaha)

    Second WYR I got via text from one of the original 16: "WYR not have the internet for 2 years, or not have sex for 2 years??"

    That second one really stumped me! It's a REALLY good question...I of course have used this same question on a few of the other girls, which has gotten good reactions...Thanks to that one girl!

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    I really like this routine!

    Anyone who is using it could you please post some examples of your WYR questions, or questions you've been asked.

    Could be a good source of questions!

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by PortentousPilot View Post
    Wow. Sorry to hear that. I still haven't run into any curve balls yet with this...how many back and forth questions did you ask? Maybe you went to the number too early...you kinda have to calibrate judging by the length of their answers and their perceived interest in you before you pop the number close question...for me it has mostly been around 3-4 questions EACH(3 from me, 3 from her), but there were two where I wasn't sure they were gonna give me their number due to their short answers to my questions...for them it went back and forth 6 times, but they still eventually gave me their numbers when I went for the # close...

    BTW, I have had two very interesting WYR questions asked to me by two different girls this week...

    First one via email: "WYR keep emailing or switch to Yahoo messenger with me?"(That's right she pulled MY routine on ME, hahaha)

    Second WYR I got via text from one of the original 16: "WYR not have the internet for 2 years, or not have sex for 2 years??"

    That second one really stumped me! It's a REALLY good question...I of course have used this same question on a few of the other girls, which has gotten good reactions...Thanks to that one girl!
    We did 4, but its not the routine, it was the girl. I was talking to her for a couple days just dumb stuff since she shut me down on everything usualy and she was boring as hell, but she responded to each email so i figured she was interested lol So i said F it and did it haha didnt really care much if i got it or not.

    I give you props man, this routine is GOLD!! I just used it on another girl and BAM the majic words "lol interesting way of getting my number :P
    but it works (number)" This way is sooo much faster and better!! So thanks for posting this for us bro. Its a killer !

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    Thanks man...good to hear. Don't forget to keep the game going via text message...use the game to even set up a location and time to meet.

    BTW, What questions did you ask? Let's get some more example questions on here...I'll add a few of the creative ones I have given and received...

    WYR be a famous author, or D-List actor?

    WYR be hungover for the rest of your life, or have no legs?

    WYR Be able to do any accent perfectly or be able to sing any song perfectly?

    WYR Go the rest of your life without eating anything made from potatoes, or anything made with cheese?

    WYR Be able to travel back in time, or be able to travel to the future?

    WYR Have no YouTube or no Wikipedia?

    WYR Get handed a $100,000 check at the beginning of every year or know everything on Wikipedia?
    (Girl asked me this after I replied no "youtube" to the above question...pretty good)

    WYR Be able to rewind real life, or fast-forward it?

    WYR Only be able to see people from their neck up or only be able to see people from their neck down?


    WYR stand in the front row of a concert, or hang near the back/bar?

    WYR eat Cake or Pie?


    and my ultimate favorite I got from one very creative girl:
    WYR Answer the question or take the physical challenge?

    Like I mentioned in the first post, most of these are not sexual in nature, and should not be unless she brings it up...and when she does, that's when the fun starts! Some girls can be quite explicit as I have found while playing this game!

    Everyone please add some cocky/funny or DHV example questions...questions like the "no sex or internet for 2 years?" are priceless...

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    I've been using this with some good success. Everybody should post some of their questions. Here are some of mine:

    - Would you rather sit courtside at a (some basketball team's) game or go on a $1000 shopping spree?? AND WHY??
    - Would you rather be an unknown minor league basketball player or a famous professional badminton star? (this was a KILLER response some chic sent me)
    - Would you rather be an up and coming professional dancer or a world famous chef? (my response to her)
    - would you rather watch the sun set or rise? and why?
    - would you rather be gossiped about or not talked about at all?
    - would you rather find 50 million dollars or true love who would stay with you throughout your life?

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