Thread: I am actually turned off by most HBs

edit: i meant "by" not "my" in the title

i have a 23 y/o sister who is a HB. she has HB friends. they come over a decent amount of time because i live in the city and they want to party in nyc.

i see how long they take to get ready: 3hours+. i see how fake they are. i see how they transform from so-so/blah girls to amazing after the makeup, burning of the hair (ironing), and so forth.

i see how they treat guys and talk about them constantly. they manipulate them. they act aloof. you think you're manipulating them with all your PUA stuff? the very fact that you're hitting on them shows that you've been manipulated by them. and then they'll likely treat you like crap - relative to how a, say, 5 or 6 would treat you.

here's the thing: after being around all this for so long, i'm turned off by HB8.5s and above. they are so fake and empty and act like they're the shit. maybe because i'm older i value personality more. but having sex with one of these plastic girls just doesn't compare to, say, true laughs from a less pretty/non-club girl over a glass of wine somewhere chill.

as with many things in life, once you get close enough and see the behind the scenes, then it demystifies the object and you see it for what it is: superficial and not so glamorous or attractive.

i know what you mean, many hb's have vapid personalities, and manipulate guys (too many). i have unfortunately encountered many of them. this is not speaking for all hbs though.

i went to college with a straight natural hb10 (5'10, blond blue eyes looks great without make up, when she walks in a room all eyes on her). she just got a job on the e network. she doesn't realize how good looking she is AT ALL. in fact shes is viciously self conscious and has become obsessive with boyfriends before (picking them up from the middle of nowhere when they were at a bar cheating on her). shes also crazy, has a prescription for xanex, etc.

point is, being attractive messes with your head. in magic bullets it explains that either girls either think they deserve all the attention they get and it goes to their head, or they feel ashamed that everyone treats them differently because of their looks and are secretly worried that they don't deserve it.

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

I definitely agree with you, I have always been attracted to girls who are more down to earth and have a sense of humor . Girls who are super artificial and who are considered "Hot" by most guys tend to be really boring (at least from my experience) and are usually not very nice individuals. There are few though of course who don't fit the stereotype but those girls are extremely rare and hard to find.

http://www.theattractionforums.com/d...hot-girls.html

read that thread.

You'll also find this is inner game issues. Probably due to bad experiences with attractive girls - either in rejection, personal experience - or never getting close to any.

Either way you're making a generalisation - thus stereotyping and discriminating on something totally superficial.

Your previous posts:

http://www.theattractionforums.com/o...tml#post597178
Night club last night

I d say you just try to convince yourself that you are being turned off by the beautiful girls so the reality you live in (you dont know how to game, and you dont care to learn) will be reinforced.

Personally I wouldnt care if you get turned on or off but since this is a forum on how to meet and seduce beautiful women I d prefer f your posts were on this topic.

As for the generalization from my experience, beautiful women have so much more to give than just their beauty. Assuming you can reach the point where she ll open up to you and throw away the social mask she wears.

Some dude on the internet just told us that all hot chicks are manipulative bitches.

Originally Posted by habadooba

edit: i meant "by" not "my" in the title

i have a 23 y/o sister who is a HB. she has HB friends. they come over a decent amount of time because i live in the city and they want to party in nyc.

i see how long they take to get ready: 3hours+. i see how fake they are. i see how they transform from so-so/blah girls to amazing after the makeup, burning of the hair (ironing), and so forth.

i see how they treat guys and talk about them constantly. they manipulate them. they act aloof. you think you're manipulating them with all your PUA stuff? the very fact that you're hitting on them shows that you've been manipulated by them. and then they'll likely treat you like crap - relative to how a, say, 5 or 6 would treat you.

here's the thing: after being around all this for so long, i'm turned off by HB8.5s and above. they are so fake and empty and act like they're the shit. maybe because i'm older i value personality more. but having sex with one of these plastic girls just doesn't compare to, say, true laughs from a less pretty/non-club girl over a glass of wine somewhere chill.

as with many things in life, once you get close enough and see the behind the scenes, then it demystifies the object and you see it for what it is: superficial and not so glamorous or attractive.

Guessing:

either

a) Passive Supressive Defensive Ego..... usually the guys who cannot get 9s and 10s come up with excuses how they are turned off by them, and how they would rather fuck 6s or 7s, in order to avoid dealing with "fake 10s"....where in reality, they just don't believe they could get those ten.



b) Reality vs. Illusion. Still in your own head, but when you see the behind-the-scene of 9s and 10s it becomes less of a fantasy and fairy tale. In other words, once you've seen her shit, piss, puke fart, quif, and do other nasty things, she's no longer allusive perfect 10 to you.


c) Gay?


d) Tremendeous amount of experience with 9s and 10s. I know some guys who have fucked so many 9s and 10s, they no longer find them interesting. Probably what you are, after beeing with those girls; having one around you no longer seem like un-attainable thing of the distant future . You suddenly start appreciating regular "Girl Next Door" types.

Either way you're making a generalisation - thus stereotyping and discriminating on something totally superficial.

you beat me to it.

can you really say ALL women are like that if they are above a certain attractiveness level on a scale of 1-10???

i get turned off sometimes too...but its more on a case by case basis due to personality quirks that i just don't feel like dealing with...not because them being pretty means they are bitches.

OP, what the hell did you hope to gain from posting this? It's YOUR OPINION. You don't like them, then don't game them!

This would be the equivalent of someone posting: I actually don't like peanut butter. WHO CARES? This is your view, not everyone else's, and there is NOTHING to gain from wasting everyone's time who clicked on this thread.

The only benefit you get out of this is hearing the "enemy" speak openly in front of you.

Most girls you see at the clubs are like this. Most girls in life that are above average and when they're done up, look great, but you have to realize a lot of girls who are attractive don't have a lot of motivation to work hard, and it might be due to how they were brought up. Spoiled and learning how to use their looks to get what they want.

We're all superficial to a degree, we're all judgmental and critical of our peers but we're also all human.

She's investing time into how she looks because she wants to find the best mate possible. She might be insecure as hell, but if she's dating attractive guys, she has an idea of what she's able to attract, and over time, she might have more of an open mind because they're turning out to be hurtful or just losers with no potential. Fun for now, but nothing worth investing more time in. Because time is limited.

The act of aloofness is just that, an act. A guy with game can pick up on it and toy with it.

If you have something to bring to the table, they won't treat you like crap. If you jump through the hoops and beg, they will.

But what's a nightclub in the light of day? Just a room with a bunch of tables and chairs. Nothing special to it, so why do some of them cost a lot and why do people stand on lines for hours to get in?

I'll drink my wine out of a box and park somewhere cool, kick the seat back, throw some James Taylor on.. I don't need a lounge or get dressed up to hit the wineries to hear how it tastes like chocolate, oak and fig for the millionth time.

But they're also in competition. You're not aware of it. They're not going to say it to each other. You can't go by what they say all the time. The stuff you're hearing is more confidence boosting and in a way, trash talk. You know when you're sitting around friends that talk shit about someone and you join in, even if you don't agree? Same thing.

The most hurtful thing for a woman is not being noticed. The getting hit on - they want that. Their ego desires it. They might act aloof but they LOVE being able to have options. Just think - they do all this work at looking good - and get ignored.

You can play on their weaknesses. I don't care how hot the chick is, it's the lack of confidence that's like a Trojan horse when it comes to running game.

You should be out with them instead of complaining about them.

Originally Posted by habadooba

edit: i meant "by" not "my" in the title

i have a 23 y/o sister who is a HB. she has HB friends. they come over a decent amount of time because i live in the city and they want to party in nyc.

i see how long they take to get ready: 3hours+. i see how fake they are. i see how they transform from so-so/blah girls to amazing after the makeup, burning of the hair (ironing), and so forth.

i see how they treat guys and talk about them constantly. they manipulate them. they act aloof. you think you're manipulating them with all your PUA stuff? the very fact that you're hitting on them shows that you've been manipulated by them. and then they'll likely treat you like crap - relative to how a, say, 5 or 6 would treat you.

here's the thing: after being around all this for so long, i'm turned off by HB8.5s and above. they are so fake and empty and act like they're the shit. maybe because i'm older i value personality more. but having sex with one of these plastic girls just doesn't compare to, say, true laughs from a less pretty/non-club girl over a glass of wine somewhere chill.

as with many things in life, once you get close enough and see the behind the scenes, then it demystifies the object and you see it for what it is: superficial and not so glamorous or attractive.