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    Infield Footage of LS Instructors

    Is there any infield footage of LS instructors infield, before considering footing $2,997 for a bootcamp?

    Surely anyone can write articles about game, I'd like to observe these guys infield to watch and learn from their game... especially before shelling out that kind of money.



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    I'd be interested in some in-field footage too. I've seen Cajun on Keys to the VIP and Soul in a couple videos on youtube, one which had no audio. Is there anything else out there?

    -Fuegoh

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    Video that the guy makes himself really is the least believable evidence, since it can be selectively chosen and edited to suit the creator's agenda. A guy with low skills could film 50 sets and show the one that went well, but not the 49 where he creeped the girl out. One guy from another company was also caught "picking up" his female friends who pretended to not know him.

    All that said, I googled and found the Cajun and Soul videos in 10 seconds.
    Soul:
    YouTube- Pickup Artist Soul Does Day Game and Number Close

    Cajun:
    YouTube- Keys to the VIP Faxe vs Cajun part 1

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    It's hard to mic a room and videotape someone unbeknowngst to them. Then videotapee has to sign a waiver afterwards, or maybe if they don't sign, they just get a blurry face... that sentence ran for gold.. Anyhoo, it's easier to let the results show for themselves.

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    There's no guarantees in this world. People fork out money for all kinds of things and end up being disappointed. How many times have you heard of people spending a considerable amount of money on their holidays and finding out that the accommodation was rubbish and the food awful? Whenever we spend money on a product or service we run the risk of being disappointed.

    Your demand for in-field footage is a bit silly because it could easily be faked or set-up in any case.

    In the UK we have a programme called Dragon's Den where entrepreneurs invest hundreds of thousands of pounds in promising businesses. Of course, some of those businesses fail to take off and the investors lose their money. When that happens its probably a bit annoying to the investors but not a big deal because they have plenty of money spare and can run that risk.

    Maybe you should view a bootcamp in the same way. If you had the money available you wouldn't be worried about running the risk of taking a bootcamp. Perhaps you should wait until you have the cash available. Or save up for one and accept that you might not get anything out of it. If that happens, you'll lose the money but be no worse off financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aestus View Post
    yeah mace123 thats what Im talking about, Ive read those too.

    Im just afraid I will be one of those very unsatisfied customers.
    This may be me going off the reservation a bit, but I'm a volunteer and not an employee so I can probably say what I want and the worst case scenario is my nickname doesn't show up in blue any more

    Guys, a bootcamp isn't for everybody. $3k represents a lot of money to most people, especially most really young guys like we see in this thread. For most guys, getting better with women is not easy. To really get value out of a bootcamp, you have to be able to put faith in the instructors enough to give what you are told an honest try. Not blind faith where you'll jump off a bridge, but enough to at least try to make the method work. You also have to be able to give yourself permission to suck at first. And if you are discover that the value isn't there, you have to be able to ask for a refund (do not take a bootcamp with a company that doesn't offer one).

    If you can't do those things, because of overwhelming fear or intense skepticism or any other reason, you probably aren't ready to make an investment like that. And that's fine, since if you aren't ready you should definitely keep your money. It takes a certain kind of guy with a certain level of motivation to invest in himself in this way. And some guys won't need a bootcamp at all to get the results they want, though they'll know this within a couple months of reading Magic Bullets.

    Personally, when I took a bootcamp (with another company, at the time MM wasn't teaching where I lived), I realized there could be real value in getting personal instruction, I was ready to try some things I found scary, I knew it would be worth the money if it was effective, and that I had no problem asking for a refund if the guys teaching me turned out to be charlatans. That meant I had nothing to risk but three days of my life, and that was a very worthwhile risk for the potential payoff.

    If that seems like a really alien mindset to you, I would most definitely not take a bootcamp.

    HTH

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    I'm not footing $2,997 for a few guys to read off a powerpoint and a motivational pep talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace123 View Post
    I'm not footing $2,997 for a few guys to read off a powerpoint and a motivational pep talk.
    Nor should you. From the Bootcamp description on the LS website:
    The in-field portion of the bootcamp is where we demonstrate that Love Systems works. Right in front of your eyes you will see Love Systems instructors approach and pick up beautiful women with the very same techniques taught at the bootcamp. That way you can see it actually working instead of just reading it in someone's theory.

    In these unscripted interactions with multiple beautiful women, Love Systems is put to the test every night we take our students out into the field. Just imagine the confidence we have in our instructors and method: not only do we put it on the line for you on national TV and in front of you, but we build our reputation through client testimonials and word-of-mouth. We prove that it works time and time again, and we'll show you how it can work for YOU.

    Anyone considering dropping that kind of coin ought to question the credibility of the product. Let's see|the infield sarge videos, the pics of LS instructors with their HB10 girlfriends, the proof that this material works, the evidence that these guys are as good as they claim.
    Future covered this for you:
    http://www.theattractionforums.com/d...tml#post727112

    That said, you're obviously quite skeptical, so I would suggest checking out the entire thread:
    http://www.theattractionforums.com/d...ack-trust.html

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