Opinons on those who trash talk PUA methods

[HiTek]

I don't know if this topic belongs on this thread, so I apologize.

I first read Strauss' "The Game " book about 3 years ago or so when my buddy showed it to me. After that, I started to dabble a little more into whatever books I could find and eventually read MM, as did my friend and a couple other mutual friends of ours.

However, last night (and this has happened quite a few times now), my OTHER friends who despise MM, or any other PUA material, constantly poke fun at the fact I read any of those and that I have some nerve actually practicing it. In addition, they never let up on how myself and my friends actually READ those books, and how they never will.

They mainly go after the PUA show on VH1, how it's entertaining to watch, but a load of bullshit (any seduction /comfort methods would never work). I don't try to defend the show, because it's TV. But I'm tired of the same crap they say to down talk any methods.

"Why can't you just be yourself? I do that and it works"
"It's so stupid that you have to change your entire lifestyle and everything you do to MAYBE meet a girl"
"If some guy did used it on me, I would just laugh in his face"
"None of that works at all"
"I'm always myself and I talk to girls... like one time... *boring story*"

Anything I retort with, which is usually something that came out from me (or my friends) using methods, is scoffed at. And at this point I reply with, "if you're going to dismiss everything I say, then stop asking or probing questions about it."

Funny enough.. they're the ones who always complain "we need to meet more woman", or they're the one who was engaged and had to break it off.

Anyway, I know this is something where you should say "who cares, let them talk". But I'm just curious as to what others think.

[theShocker]

Fuck'm...that's what I say. Any friend that puts down your lifestyle and makes fun of you continuously is no friend I'd want to have. Eliminate them from your social circle . You're trying to better yourself and your friends so why let some d-bags interfere with that. Let them loathe over their loneliness and bitter breakups. You don't need that kind of stuff in your life.

*Now I step off of the soapbox*

[kelly_monaco]

I wouldnt bother trying to change other peoples minds about anything (including PUA) - the more you try to change their minds, the more they resist as you then bring their ego into the equation. Let them trash talk..few months time they will find something/someone else to trash talk.

[DarthWayne]

its good there are lot of guys who dont understand all this...otherwise PUA stuff wud become very common.


why do u think the majority is middle class?...because the rich dont reveal their tricks of trade.

[Emsley]

Sometimes I start talkling PUA jargon with my friends I'll be like "So she gave me this massive IOI" They look at you like "wtf?"
I say stuff like "Keep your frame strong" be funny! Do this do that!
It rolls over their heads but the ones who have a clue learn from me.

[Nick_718]

well come on look at it from their perspective alot of this stuff sounds unbelievable. If youre feeling salty about all that shit talkin then just get new friends.

[The Eternal]

Well, the thing is.. you don't change your whole life. You give women the opportunity to get to know who you really are.. so you ARE being yourself. If your friends get that, then they get it. If they don't.. beat them up. Or see who can get the most numbers in a night. Either one.

[HiTek]

Thanks for the input guys.

I agree with Shocker, the one guy who was talking the most smack is the one that always complains we don't "meet any girls". Half the time, I don't invite him to come along with my friends and I because that's all he does is talk shit when we're doing our thang. So he loses out.

Emsley, I do love throwing the terms around those who aren't familiar with them. Gotta work on that DHV, bitches!