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04-02-2009, 04:03 PM #1
Hi guys, I haven't been on in awhile as I've been
Last couple of experiences didn't go past a 3rd date, others Fclosed
busy with work a night Pre-Calculus Math class, and
So, since my total body transformation, increased
confidence and great game in the sac, I've been
meeting more women (even hooked up with a
porn star LOL, was safe of course).
A couple of experiences all seemed to be going
well. Then all of a sudden, I would not get passed
the 2nd or 3rd meeting (date).
My most recent was a girl I met online. I'm around
5'11" (31yo) and she's 5'8" 28yrs old
She has a crazy schedule working in aircraft maintenance
at the local Montreal airport. 2 weeks night shift, 1 week
days, and 4 days off in a row.
We met 3 weeks ago for coffee (only spent $7). That's my
rule now, I don't spend much on the first or 2nd meeting.
Only until things become a little regular.
Everything was great the first meeting at the coffee place.
I used neg's (she thinks a lot of herself so I had to bring
her back down to earth) and it worked. But did it in a playful
way which she took clearly as flirting.
Eventually, I moved to getting her comfortable to my touch
and for the rest of our meeting our thighs were very close
to one another. Lot's of giggling, smiling, told me I was
really cute and nice body.
I said that I had to run to my math class so we prepared
to leave. We made a plan for 3 days later on Sunday afternoon.
She actually wanted to work on some of my math with me LOL.
I closed with nice lip lock and she looked back at me with a smile
as she walked away.
A couple of days later she'd text me and I'd text her etc...
Our second meeting was Sunday for around 12pm. That came around
and she told me that she just finished a run with her running club and
needed a nap.
She did tell me that she was a part of a running club on our first
meeting so I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
I asked her what time would be good to meet up and she said 2pm.
2pm comes around and nothing, my frist instinct was to text her. But
I've learned a lot since I first joined and realized that would be a needy
2:15pm comes around then 2:30pm goes by and nothing. I say to myself
this girl is blowing me off. I said well, suivant next and wasn't too upset
about it at all.
Then around 3pm she calls asking what time am I coming over.
I said that I can be there soon.
I actually cooked dinner and surprised her. This one me major
We did a bit of math work lol and started making out/necking
She then wanted me to hold her and keep her warm. This was
nice. She was very comfortable with me and said that I'm
We then decided to go for a long walk outside since it was one
of the nicer days we've seen in awhile.
We held hands, talked about many different things, I threw in a
couple of playful negs even one referring to her as ugly. Reaction
draw dropped, slap on the arm and then held my arm tightly to
be closer to me.
Headed back to her place and ate dinner that I cooked (very impressed
I helped her prepare several meals of hers for work as we chatted
On the way out we kissed passionately some more and said that
we'd be in touch soon.
She'd keep in touch with me by phone or texting.
I would usually wait 2-3 days after seeing her or last contacting
her (in any way shape or form) before contacting her again. Just
to avoid seeming needy/stalker and this always works.
I later contacted her stating that I wanted to take her out to dinner
if she was still interested.
I got a weird reply stating that she and a girlfriend were going
to Mexico for 3 days (thanks to her travel benefits with the airport).
I said that's great, I wanted to get together before you left
if that's cool. I said it in a way that didn't sound needy as I
hadn't seen her in almost a week nor talked to her in about
She then brought up "The ex BF" and not sure if she was over him or
what she wanted. Of course being the alpha that I am now, I didn't
react at all.
When we first met, she also disclosed to me that she had dated several male strippers (this could portray some of her personality traits in the negatives).
I simply stated that you'd be missing out on a lot, and all I want to
do is get to know you, enjoy one another without analyzing things.
I said that we could get together after you came back, no worries.
Right away she replied, "I want to take you out for breakfast
this weekend before I leave".
So we made plans for 2 days later on Saturday morning.
We met up, she was very happy to see me! I acted as though
nothing weird happened, didn't even bring our conversation
We talked about random things as I drove to the restaurant.
When we sat down she was very close, pupils dilated, she reached
over the table to touch my face a few times and held my hand very
closely across the table.
We ordered and things continued like this through out the meal. Our
thighs were also touching through the meal.
When we got back to the car, we made out a bit more and I stopped
it prematurely lol.
We got back to her place and she'd lie on me again wanting me to
I felt like we were bonding as touches on more personal body parts
became more natural and accepting. Massages were given.
I tested the waters to see where she what she was comfortable with
in a smooth way. E.g. it would be much easier for me to massage you
if you were lying down with more space. She said here is just fine.
I didn't react at all disappointed. It was only our 3rd meeting and didn't
want to force things or move too fast.
I've moved fast, not too long ago a few times, and sure I'd get to
have sex with them on the 2nd or 3rd date, but I'd usually only have
sex with them a few more times and it was over, or never see them
I actually really liked this girl so I didn't want to force her. She obviously
wasn't ready yet.
So she had to work a night shift and needed to sleep.
We kissed more at the door and I said thank you for breakfast,
I enjoyed it very much.
Monday came around as I didn't not contact her again since last
seeing her Saturday morning.
I sent her a text saying "Have a great safe trip, enjoy a couple
of extra margaritas for me".
She didn't reply (I didn't know when she was leaving that day).
I didn't contact her all week while she was away. That would've been
the first mistake LOL.
She told me that all they were going to do was relax on the beach.
I said to myself, LOL it's spring break season and you're only
lying on the beach and going to bed at 10pm??? No fn' waaaay lol.
Didn't react at all, I said well have fun and relax.
She came back Thursday, I didn't not contact her right away,
I waited until Saturday morning.
I left her a message stating I had a surprise for her on a restaurant
(was going to take her to this really great local rotating restauring
with an entire view of the city in the Delta Montreal hotel) and also
asked her for help shopping with clothes (to get a mood going).
She called me later that night while I was with a woman friend
and said "I wasn't ignoring you, just helping out a buddy of mine
I asked her what her week was like, she said she wasn't sure about
tomorrow, I said I already had plans. She was like "Oh, okay well
later in the week?".
I said how about Tuesday (She knew that Mon/Wed I don't
get home until 11pm with work, school then the gym). She
stated that a guy friend of hers is visiting from Cornwall
and hasn't seen him in 5 months (could be the ex bf? maybe not).
I said that's cool, she suggested Thursday and I said I was free.
We confirmed plans for Thursday evening (tonight) and said that we'd
be in touch mid week. She was all excited, giggling, and happy, she
even confirmed a plan for clothes shopping after the dinner.
Tuesday afternoon comes around and she states that she forgot
I was working all day and had to go to her running club as she
missed the sessions while in Mexico.
I suggested Wednesday and she said that she had two sessions
She didn't make an effort for a follow up date. That told me it wasn't
a good thing.
So without looking needy, I said well let me know when it works
for you and if I'm free we'll do it then.
She did not reply.
So, I immediately took this as a blow off.
By the time I got home I removed her from Facebook and I don't
plan on speaking to her again.
If she happens to call me back (I don't think she will), I will let it go to voice mail and make her wait at least 2 days before calling her back.
I will be playful cocky stating what makes you think that I should give you another chance?
I will then say that I rarely give second chances unless the person
really goes out of their way to impress me.
Honestly I wasn't sad or disappointed really. More pissed off for
a couple of days. I really liked her a lot and felt a real connection
from her all the eye gazing, touching etc.....
She's out of my system now and I'm meeting a 33yo tomorrow
night. Might be more mature than this one.
I'm simply curious what changed her mind??? People have told
me not to bother trying to figure it out, I guess I can agree
I'm guessing that she either met someone in Mexico or on
the plane (a local perhaps), or having gone to Mexico gave
her time to reflect what she was ready for in life.
But, the question is, why did she confirm plans with me for a
fourth date tonight if she wasn't interested then suddenly gave
some BS excuse like her running club???
One thing I've learned since coming here is that I can now cut
women out of my life very quickly with no regrets and get back
on the horse.
That's what alpha is all about. No regrets, no sadness or pain.
The one that I'm talking to now seems much more reliable and is
ready for something Long-Term (as am I)
Any opinions or similar experiences is appreciated
Hope you are all well.
Sorry for the long post, lot's of detail required so you know
04-03-2009, 03:07 AM #2
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Seems like you did everything right on your part. It's happened to me before, everything seemed perfect and she was really into me but then all of a sudden she wouldn't talk to me anymore, and i couldn't figgure out why. We didn't speak for weeks and I made the mistake of reacting emotionally to it. We got into a fight and she admitted she found someone else. They went out, 2 weeks later they broke up.
Some girls are like that, they'll be all over you one minute and then they'll find someone better.
I wouldn't of deleted her from facebook, it shows you're reacting emotionally to her cutting you off. Simply break contact with her and leave it up to her. If she tries to make contact again, tell her your busy, don't know if you can see her this week etc. You know what to do.
In the meantime find someone better
04-03-2009, 08:29 PM #3
Well, I'm sorry for your similar scenario. It sounds like you reacted
a lot more emotionally than I did.
Trust me, in the past, I reacted the same as you!! What a mistake
and I learned.
I even told her in the beginning that I can cut people out like
that very quickly w/o regret if I smell something's not right.
I guess removing her from Facebook was a bit harsh and on her
part come across as "reacting emotionally" to it.
IMO, I was trying to show her that I wasn't kidding about
cutting people out very easily w/o regret.
I haven't gone out of my way at all to contact her since we
spoke last Saturday evening or texted her when she "blew me
off" this past Tuesday afternoon.
I'm sure she either went back to her ex, found someone "better" (in
her eyes any way), or realized she isn't ready to date.
Her initial concern was that she felt not ready or very certain about dating
anyone in genera.
It's too bad as we really clicked, I was planning on this past
Thursday being our first very intimate night (but wouldn't
have been disappointed if it didn't happen all the way).
I really liked this girl and felt warm around her.
Good thing I didn't let her know too much.
Who know's, maybe she'll call me back??
If she does, I'll have to hear her voice mail to see what she
has to say and think about it for a couple of days.
What's really annoying is the easy blow off excuses like her
If you really like someone that you pre-arranged that night with,
you would keep the plan and skip your running club.
Just like I would've skipped going to the gym.
Many guys at work who are in their 40's and 50's tell me they've
all gone through this shit and much worse. Some of these guys
say using call girls is a lot less painful and much cheaper in the
long run, no feelings either.
These guys are pretty good looking (No homo) and have good
jobs, secure etc... Maybe they're onto something??
I'm simply going to keep plugging away.
Funny thing is, they think they've found someone better, and
like you, turns out to be worse.
I'm a "good asshole" if there is such a thing. I'm nice, but not
too nice, and not too much of an asshole. This has been working
for me pretty much most of the time. The key for me is to have
it work in a natural flow and I do.
Thanks again for your opinion and story Nobody Famous I
One last question NF, do you think I should speak to her
or accept a date with her if she calls back? If so, I'm guessing
it's a better idea not to react upset at all correct?
Thanks again, have a great one dude!!
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