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    Need opinions, having gotten a really lean body is getting me more attention w/o game

    Need opinions, having gotten a really lean body is getting me more attention w/o game.

    Hi all,

    Well now that the 40yo personal training woman crap is
    very much out of my system I've hooked up and had
    sex with 4 women including another fitness model type
    of woman I used to have sex with over the years.

    The funny thing is, I've actually had not much of a game
    since the personal training woman.

    At this point I have lost even more body fat in the 15%
    range at 190lbs 5'10" which was 17lbs more at 207lbs
    during the time I knew the trainer woman.

    She actually later told me that she was really into me
    with a sexual connection, personality, mental, called
    me bad boy, but the only thing stopping her from
    dating me was the fact I needed a lot more work on
    my body according to her.

    She already knew I lost 20lbs at that point and was on
    a strict regime. I told her that was very evil of her
    and if she had just been patient and stayed with me,
    I'd be really lean. But I guess that wasn't good enough
    for her.

    The strange thing is, that girls/women at the gym who
    back in the winter when I was 227lbs would look at me
    with trying to hide a disgusted look on their face despite
    my flirting, kino's and negging.

    Now, I just be myself, i've started wearing tighter
    Under Armour t-shirts and long sleeve tighter shirts.

    These same girls who wouldn't give me the time of
    day are now all trying to get my attention.

    I see them constantly looking at me up and down
    when they talk to me with a "I want to fuck you smirk"
    on their face.

    I've hooked up with 3 women from the gym and my bodybuilding
    fitness friend who I haven't seen in about 6 months who said
    I look really hot. I haven't heard that out of her mouth in a
    long time.

    The 3 girls from my gym that I've had sex with more than
    once told me after the first time something in the line of
    "Shit, that was the best sex I've had, I never knew you
    were this good or sexual. How come we never hooked
    up before"

    I said something cocky like well it's me you're with,
    of course the sex is good. As to their reply about
    why we didn't hook up before? I said something
    like "I never thought you were interested".

    I'd get a reply such as "There's something
    really different about you, just couldn't
    help myself".

    The words were different from each woman, but
    all in the same lines as to what they where
    trying to say.

    So I'm beginning to think that if you're really fit, lean and
    muscular (not necissarily a juice/steroid head), but just
    in elite athlete conditioning like a running back or Wide
    Receiver, an MMA fighter, these women will come to you.

    I'm noticing that now a days they all want fit, athletic
    and slightly muscular.

    No joke, I'm getting more attention now without using
    anything I've learned from the website at 190lbs with about
    16%BF than I did at a 227lbs 40" waist using game.

    The harder I train and diet, the leaner I'm getting and more
    attention from women I'm getting without even doing anything.

    Plus, now I let a slight 2-3 day beard grow as before I'm told
    I have a baby face if clean shaven. Once it starts getting to
    thick, I just use a trimmer to get it looking like I haven't
    shaved in 2-3 days.

    Does anyone here have any opinions on this or have
    experienced the same thing with having had a fat
    body to an athletic body?

    I'd love to hear some women's opinions on this as well.

    I do take everything I learn here and absorb it in.

    Thanks all
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    No offense but you've got to cut the fat in your post too. This is a lot to give to people who don't know you. I think if your only doing it to get women then don't be like the guys in FLEX magazine. It will be less work to learn to game better than to be like a guy in FLEX. But then again I'm no expert, my advise is worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidj425 View Post
    No offense but you've got to cut the fat in your post too. This is a lot to give to people who don't know you. I think if your only doing it to get women then don't be like the guys in FLEX magazine. It will be less work to learn to game better than to be like a guy in FLEX. But then again I'm no expert, my advise is worthless.
    Hey guy,

    No one's advice is worthless to me...

    Well I agree the post is a bit long, but in these
    situations, there's always a lot of details that can
    change the hole outlook of the scenario.

    I try to put as much in as possible.

    Trust me guy, I'm not training my ass off just for women. I've
    been training for 15yrs through medical problems, played
    football, competed in MMA (started up again after a 4yr break).

    And I'm nothing like those posers in FLEX magazine, I've never
    touched an AAS or GH.

    I'm simply sharing an observation that since I've gotten
    my body fat level down, women that once rejected me
    or looked at me with a disgusted look are now coming
    onto me with a looking up and down "I want to fuck you"
    look on their face.

    The 3 women I've hooked up with in the last 5 weeks
    all came onto me, I didn't have to do anything I was
    just myself.

    This is the part I'm trying to figure out as I'm noticing
    that women these days all want fit/athletic and doesn't
    seem to matter what type of personality you have.

    This is what I was seeking help with

    But thanks again for your opinion

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    Hahahahahaha, Those posers in FLEX magazine! I like going into stores and flipping through it just so I can laugh at the big ego's. I've never seen a mag that oozes ego more than FLEX. Makes me wonder is the ego dhv or dlv?

    But anyway, are you sure these women who rejected you arn't just looking up and down at you now because they see you lost weight and wonder if your the same person? Not because they want you? Because if I see a person who has lost a lot of weight lately I would look up and down at them too, wether I wanted to bang them or not.

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    im sure your confidence has skyrocketed and its visible in your everyday life, that in and of itself may be the reason your getting a whole lotta poon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey4sports View Post
    im sure your confidence has skyrocketed and its visible in your everyday life, that in and of itself may be the reason your getting a whole lotta poon
    my thoughts exactly. true you dont look the same and apparently look better. but i also would be willing to be that you are carryingyourself a lot different and that is what the girls are noticing more so than the fact that you are more lean

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidj425 View Post
    Hahahahahaha, Those posers in FLEX magazine! I like going into stores and flipping through it just so I can laugh at the big ego's. I've never seen a mag that oozes ego more than FLEX. Makes me wonder is the ego dhv or dlv?

    But anyway, are you sure these women who rejected you arn't just looking up and down at you now because they see you lost weight and wonder if your the same person? Not because they want you? Because if I see a person who has lost a lot of weight lately I would look up and down at them too, wether I wanted to bang them or not.
    Hey guy,

    Can't argue with the posers LOL, too many at the gyms these days


    But yes these same women rejected my game before.

    Now that I've lost weight, I've already had sex with 3
    of the girls that rejected me back in the winter when
    I was trying to flirt with them.

    They even would get pissed off if I looked at them with
    seducing eyes.

    Now that's how they look at me.

    They do in fact remember that I was the same person as
    each of them have told me I lost weight.

    Within a week of not even trying to talk to them, at different
    times they approached me and then we had sex.

    That's how I know that at least with these 3 particular women,
    they rejected me in the winter b/c I was fatter.

    I didn't even have to try they did all the courting.

    I just find that cold, but I'm not going to say know to
    a warm ass! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by R V C A View Post
    my thoughts exactly. true you dont look the same and apparently look better. but i also would be willing to bey that you are carryingyourself a lot different and that is what the girls are noticing more so than the fact that you are more lean

    Hey guy,

    I think you're probably right, I do feel myself walking tall
    with lot's of confidence in my eyes.

    I guess that's what you they're noticing.

    I did have confidence when I was fat, but maybe getting
    leaner improved my own confidence that much greater?

    Who can be sure really.

    But I do know in Montreal, women really focus on a fit
    guy, I've seen hot girls here with guys who are really
    fit but have an ugly fn' face and acts like an idiot.

    They're just with him b/c he's lean and muscular.

    That's what's confusing me

    Thanks for the opinions, much abliged

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    Working out

    There is no question that working out and obtaining a tighter body will significantly improve your progress with women. I have always been into fitness to some degree, but within the past 2-3 years, I have taken it to the next level watching my diet closer and training harder. My results with women have improved commensurate with my results in the gym. I fully acknowledge that there are other factors driving my progress including being older and further along in my career, but the fact remains, having a tight body is only going to help you.

    I really have enjoyed learning the literature that the PU world has to offer. And I believe that it clearly works well. What I have personally found is that the better looking (good body, face etc) you have, the more wiggle room you have with game. In other words, there is less work to do to achieve attraction than otherwise would be necessary without good looks or a good body. And you can get away with more "mistakes" in your game.

    I work out primarily because it makes me healthier but there's no question that the superficial benefits are definitely a motivating factor. Keep training and good luck to you.

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    I think you're right.

    My friend has completely buffed up, and he never really did much and now girls just come up and approach him. Some girl just left her number for him to call and he banged her pretty quickly. Stuff like this never happened to him when he was just skinny.



    Some of my friends don't really do anything except wear tight t-shirts or wife beaters, and thats their game. If it works, it works!


    I plan to get more in shape too =)

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