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    F-close using OAP?

    I am currently on the OAP issue 7, but just a few seconds ago I re-read some of the first issues and found one thing.
    Quote from the M3 model:
    "C1, C2, C3 (Comfort): Building comfort is the bulk of the pickup. You should be done with Attraction in half an hour. For most women (not party girls), the Comfort-phases will take 3 to 10 hours and may require separate meetings (sometimes thought of as "dates" -- although we don't date . . ."
    It really says that the comfort phases takes 3-10 hours. Now, let's say we're at a house party, or a club, and we do the A-phases correctly, and we're really horny. We really want to score tonight. Do we really need to go through 3 to 10 hours of comfort then? If so, how can we ever manage to meet and f-close at the same night? But! It also says that this implies for most women except party girls. How do we go about to score a HB10 party girl? Is there another M3 model or what?



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    The free Chapter 3 of the Venusian Arts Handbook discusses the four M3 sequencing mistakes. This is the Player Syndrome where you rapidly attract a girl and then go for Seduction and a one-night stand, skipping Comfort at the extreme risk of giving a girl severe buyer's remorse. Not a solid gameplan for keeping a high-quality woman, but might be fun to try just for calibration's sake.

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    Also I wanna add in a field tested routine I have to test if the girl is ready for a one night stand or an 1-hour-after-meeting-fuck. (remember, having to skip comfort before sex are really hard to turn into relationships or even fuck buddies)
    Here's the test:
    When you kiss, go with some "foreplay kissing" That is, kissing her neck and breathing heavy and see if she does the same.
    If she does, then she's passed the first test nad then you do a false take away.
    If she doesn't then do a take away and maybe try speak more to her or whatever you're doing to get girls horny.
    A takeaway here is simply stopping the make out and start talking.
    A false takeaway however is that you stop the make out and you tell her something like:
    "I'm not going to have sex with you, not here. stop trying to make me horny. Let's talk" and you do this with a smile of course.
    After some talking you will start to make out again, remember that you must start easy and then start with the foreplay kissing again. Then you do a false takeaway again.
    Repeat this process until you feel she's really going to fuck you (this is a gut feeling) then you do the false takeaway and say: "Hey! That's it. Either we don't kiss anymore this night, or we fuck now."
    This doesn't give you sex all the time, cause it's a solid way to test if you are able to have sex with her that night. Girls have different principles. This test gives you the ability to test hers without blowing yourself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilver View Post
    Do we really need to go through 3 to 10 hours of comfort then?
    99% of the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilver View Post
    If so, how can we ever manage to meet and f-close at the same night?
    Fools mate. A hooker. A whore... A drunken whore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilver View Post
    How do we go about to score a HB10 party girl? Is there another M3 model or what?
    As above - Chapter 3. Even better... read the whole book.

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