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young dubs · #1 02-23-2009, 03:52 PM

Well I do'nt wannt say anything bad in fear that braddock might cock punch me... haha for real tho, these two are fuckin amazing, I had an amazing time in class, in field, just nuts!

there was a moment when we learned just one thing that was well worth the price of the bootcamp, and then 30 seconds later another, and then another, and then another... and then you get the point..so much individual aspects that easily make everything wellll worth it!! Whether you're horrible or great with women, your results will sky rocket and you will see many IMPROVEMENTS in YOURSELF within hours of the first day...seriously.

so much information, and they make it easy for you to understand and go over it until you do, and then make sure you incorporate it in the clubs... I remember a time braddock came up to me while I was talkin to a nice lil ecuadorian chica and said " hey do you know where the kino-tables are here?" hahaha. They make sure you fix your weaknesses and enhance your strengths. And they do it fast.

Mr. M has an aura of a 7 footer, despite being 5'6... such a strong confident presence matched with a warm, friendly, charismatic personality, when he did a direct opener on me, I almost kissed him and asians aren't even my type

. He will teach you something and show you it and then have you do it until you get it... I remember him talking to a women for a while and then literally throwing her onto me, and later on we ventured off behind some cabana curtains

... and there was an important lesson which opened up a lot of new views on attraction for me...

Braddock is by far one of the funniest people I've met. within an instant of talking to him you can see why he's pullin 10's left and right, and his lessons will definitely teach you how to do the same. I think his section on Trigger Words, is worth about 5x the price of the seminar (disclaimer: if they raise the price for future bootcamps I am not held responsible). That alone is so crazy I think I was cheesin thru out his whole presentation of it. So clear in his explanation he really gets thru to you. When he did seduction I think I caught wood

awkward??

Daxx was there too - and well needless to say I have man crush on him. He's a fuckin star, pulled one of the hottest girls I've ever seen (tv, real life, magazines included) all in under 5 minutes of meeting her. While me and him were just talkin I saw her eye fuck him so hard I even felt violated..

after all that D-riding I'm gonna have to go out a talk to some women just to make sure I didn't turn gay after all those good peptides they game me

... oh which reminds me, its like you are talking to some neuro scientists when they explain the psychology of the brain and women to you...so fuckin knowledgeable and they break it down so easily that "the girls with the helmets in the corner playin with crayons" could understand.

overall this is a seminar that you MUST TAKE if you want to improve your life...and are serious about your game, which I assume you are if you're reading this post. I'm not gonna lie I was iffy about it at first and had my doubts, but within the first 15 minutes of meeting them, they were all shattered.

To the guys I met down there, couldn't have asked for a better group, you guys were stars and I had a great time meeting and chillin with all of you, best of luck!!

Braddock, Mr. M, Daxx, Manny, Aaron, and all the students like me, thanks for an incredible weekend! fuckin awesome!

- Adam

Soul · #2 02-24-2009, 05:11 AM

Damn, can't believe I missed you boys in Miami.

I'll have to get my ass down there in the summer!

young dubs · #3 02-24-2009, 07:59 AM

J you would have a field day down there, there are some quality women down there, just do it when the exchange rate is in your favor, drinks are costly, like $20 for well drinks, just nanas

Seattle Supernova · #4 02-25-2009, 10:11 AM

I can't begin to say enough about this bootcamp experience! Back in the day, I pulled chicks with Mystery, Style, and some of the best in "the Game," but I wanted a refresher course after just getting out of a long relationship. I chose Braddock and Mr. M because of the reviews that they got on this forum and others. I had high expections and wanted to see if these guys were legit.

My expectations were not only exceeded, they were destroyed. Without question, these two guys are two of the best instructors in the entire dating/ seduction community today. They have taken the "older" game technologies and advanced them to the next level.....a much more natural style of game. Game 2.0!

If you want to get past the pick up lines, peacocking, and "pick up artist" crap, then you need to work with Braddock and Mr. M. They teach a type of game that is congruent with a natural, high value, alpha male guy who gets and keeps the hot, quality women in their lives. Don't get me wrong, they give you plenty of good material to use, but over the course of the weekend, I found that I needed it less and less. The opinion opener was no longer the only way to open a set, simply one small tool in the toolbox.

The results: Over the course of the weekend I approached over 50 sets in some high-end venues full of model types, bachlorette parties and mixed sets. I pulled 11 numbers and made out with two hot chicks. But more important than the results was what happened inside of me....by the end of the weekend any traces of approach anxiety or fear of the blowout were completely gone. I feel much more aligned with my masculine qualities and not ashamed of my intentions as a man.

We had guys of all different levels at the bootcamp, and it was an absolute blast. You guys all rocked! We also had the pleasure of having Daxx with us at the bc....he is the epitome of a natural with game. You can learn a lot by simply watching and modeling these guys.

Now, I feel like this weekend only scratched the surface, these guys have opened my eyes to the next level of game that I aim to acheive. Supernova game!(which is why I changed my handle to Seattle Supernova) An abundance of hot, quality women in my life.

Cheers fellas,

JD

borgesp · #5 02-25-2009, 03:49 PM

All I can say is AMAZING! BRILLIANT! INTELLIGENT! And practical. These guys motivate and encourage you to push beyond your comfort zone and leave you, most importantly, surprised at yourself. Though the "target" is interacting with women, it also indirectly changes you as a person because it helps you to follow your instincts and have the balls to follow thru, and it motivates you to improve your "inner" qualities. Not just learning the common psychology of women, but of you. And to get even deeper, here's a quote from the surrealist author Herman Hesse in the book Demian, "I wanted only to try to live in accord with the promptings which came from my true self. Why was that so difficult?" That's because we ourselves are (or better yet were) our worse enemy, but these instructors in this bootcamp provided the tools to unleash your greatest potential. "Confidence thru competence" as was said. FUCKIN' A!!

I'm truly grateful for their service. Happy hunting fellas!

Pedro

Rix · #6 02-25-2009, 07:40 PM

In a nutshell, this bootcamp was simply mindblowing. If you don't want to read the long review below, I'll just say it was worth every penny and if you are having any thoughts about taking a bootcamp, DO IT! For those who want to read on, I apologize for the length...

First, a little about myself so that the changes will be more obvious. I have always been the quiet, nice guy who was always in the friend zone and always worrying about what other people thought about me. The relationships I have been in were always due to girls picking me rather than the reverse. As such, my last gf was a "stage 5 clinger" as Braddock and Mr M are wont to say. After a long and nasty break up, I made the decision never to end up in a relationship with a woman that I did not select for my reasons. This decision, through various twists and turns, was what led me to finally get to this bootcamp.

Walking into the seminar the first day I still had a little bit of skepticism. When I opened the door Mr M came out to greet me. My first impression - if this guy can get laid I sure as hell can. At first glance, he was a normal, down to earth, cool guy, just like the rest of the students, not some supermodel with flashing eyes and fire coming out of his mouth (that happened later in the field

). Once he started the class, though, I could swear I was watching a shorter and more asian version of Tony Robbins. You can tell he has a passion for this material and helping people. Within the first 30 minutes of the class start, I had discovered some distinctions and inner game ideas that completely changed how I looked on my interactions with women. As the day went on, we were inundated with all kinds of deep theory and practical examples. These guys are clearly at the top of their game and the things they are teaching are cutting edge.

The first night in field I was fairly nervous but determined to put aside how I normally act and try to do everything they had asked us to try. I warmed up with a few sets, just basic chit chat. Then I saw two very hot girls standing by themselves and said to myself "what the hell" and went direct. No blow out...they didn't bite my head off...and they are talking to me! I also watched Mr M and Daxx demonstrating, and WOW, these guys are awesome. Within minutes they both had girls totally into them. Amazing. I probably approached 10-15 sets over the course of the night and was only really blown out hard once, when approaching a group of 8 girls all by myself, and by that point I didn't even care what they thought. One of the last sets I got a makeout and number close from an ok looking girl (thanks Daxx). Not bad for a guy who hasn't been on a date or kissed a girl in over 2 years. But more importantly, every set I did I learned something and by the end of the night I felt like the light bulb was starting to flicker on.

The next day we reviewed the night before and it was Braddock's turn at the podium. This guy is the epitome of the alpha male and you can tell immediately that he has this stuff down pat. Again we were bombarded with the whole gamut of deep theory to specific practical examples for the next stages in the emotional progression model. The session on trigger words alone was worth the price of admission. If you are the type of guy who ever says "I just don't know what to say", YOU NEED A BOOTCAMP WITH BRADDOCK AND MR M. By the end of the day I had serious mental overload, but I was really starting to understand a lot more about the things that happened in field the previous night and I was stoked to get infield again.

The second night we went to a nice high class hotel with some unbelievably hot women. Things were a little more hit or miss though. Some sets did good. Others had some incredible bitch shields. There were a lot of couples, unfortunately, and none of us were really feeling the place, so we all switched to a new venue. At the next place I opened several sets but just about all of my targets had boyfriends. But I forged on and hooked a couple of good sets and talked with several beautiful women for long periods. Still massive progress from where I ever could have imagined. The great thing about the second night was the almost total eradication of my approach anxiety and just a much more natural and relaxed way of being with women. Even Braddock commented toward the end of the night that he could see and hear the change in me (I know Braddock, I'm not yelling, I'm talking

) but more importantly I could feel it.

Back to class for day 3 for another session of mindblowing information. Finishing up the model, Mr M and Braddock both broke it down into understandable and doable ideas and actions. Every few minutes was another revelation. I've never heard so many "that is so cool", "this is so awesome" in my life. By the end, we were all half in shock, but excited as hell to get out there and put our new skills and knowledge to practice.

Was it worth it? Absolutely. If you are looking for sheer volume of information, you will get it. I literally took 22 pages of mostly single spaced notes on my laptop. If you want quality, some of this material you will not find anywhere else and it's top of the line. What's even more amazing to me is going back to articles on the forums and really starting to understand them now that I have been in the field and been exposed to the theories. I'm already seeing changes this week in how I interact with the people around me.

Finally, I just want to give the biggest thanks I can to Braddock, Mr M, Daxx, and the approach coaches A and M. You guys were all incredible. Mr M and Braddock went out of their way to help all of us out with sticking points. They spent extra time after class was over helping one of the guys and me get an exercise down and went above and beyond in more ways than I can describe. Also to the other guys in the class, I had a great time meeting you all and really enjoyed tearing it up with you in the field. You are all kick ass dudes and I'm glad I got to know you. I can't wait to see where all this leads.

-Rick

Cirrus · #7 02-26-2009, 08:30 PM

It's really difficult to put into words the most incredible experience of my life. There is no rating good enough to put on a bootcamp with Mr. M and Braddock. They have completely changed my entire outlook on life, not just in the form of pickup. My confidence level is through the fucking roof.

Let me start back before I attended the bootcamp. Depressed, lonely, negative, pessimistic, cynical, and not a clue in the world how to get women.
Enter: Braddock and Mr. M

To fucking cock punch into 5th gear and stop acting like a negative, wet tampon. I mean, it's amazing the transformation I made from before. I've been getting so many people saying how different I am. Just the little things as well, such as standing up straight, good eye contact, and smiling do wonders. Mr. M and Braddock coupled with Daxx, Manny, and Aaron give you such great advice and openers, and in order to succeed, all you need is to follow their simple rules: Leave your old self at the door, stay enthusiastic and positive, and ask for instructor feedback.

Before I went, most of my friends were so skeptical, but I said screw em, I'm doing it, and I am so glad I did. Your life will change for the better. I promise.

-Jacob

P.S.
To Wylee, Rick, Adam, Chris, Pedro, and J.D., thanks for being such great guys. It was a blast to hang out with you.

Daxx · #8 02-27-2009, 10:07 PM

Good to read through your reviews guys, was an awesome weekend!

Now you've just got to keep putting what you learned over the course of the weekend to practice. It's the only way you'll keep improving. You saw what a difference 3 days made...all I can say is the rabbit hole goes a lot deeper

Keep it up boys, that was a quality bootcamp!

-Daxx

Ludovico · #9 03-07-2009, 03:05 PM

For anyone who needs to hear this, I am damn glad I stopped putting it off, sacked up, spent the money, and went to a bootcamp. The instructors are brilliant at what they do, and almost everything they said in seminar was pure gold.

Braddock has an animalistic and relentlessly playful energy toward women, and I learned loads from him about what it means to be an attractive male. He helped me realize much that was wrong with my basic presentation of myself and spent literally ten minutes in the corner of a club with me making me introduce myself until I didn't sound like a pussy. He demonstrated how to open like a man, and even I almost wanted to bang him when he did that shit!

Mr. M is clearly an intelligent guy who's learned seriously solid game. He is cool and charismatic and exudes high value with everything he does. You can tell he's really into the game of approaching women, outcomes be damned (though he gets some damn good outcomes). He is a great teacher and extremely perceptive - he can see what you're doing wrong from a mile away. He also helped me finally understand that a blowout is just a basic (and usually hilarious) occurrence.

And Daxx is a goddamn player, nuff said.

As for actually approaching women in the field, though I was a bit worried I'd be nervous, the knowledge and encouragement of the instructors put me at ease. Twenty minutes into the first night, I was so far outside my normal comfort zone it was ridiculous - and it was fucking fun! I was doing things that, long ago, I could not have imagined doing, and I was getting some surprising results.

I learned so much at the bootcamp that I never could have learned anywhere else, including things I believe will make me a better person and a better man. I acquired many basic skills, and, more importantly, I now know precisely what I have to do to improve important abilities I've been lacking. Though I'm at a point where there's a lot of work to do, I'm ready and excited to do it. There was a time in my life when I felt helpless to improve my own skills with women. I will not feel like that again.

Thanks to all the guys for being cool.

-Coyote

ChrisK1 · #10 03-15-2009, 06:14 PM

I just finished the Miami boot camp and here is my review. First, this will certainly do more for you than books, CD's, or DVD's. We had five instructors with us. I can say that each one of them cared deeply for us and for our success, not because was in their financial or career interests, but because they really cared for us and loved what they did.

These guys knew what they were doing. In the field, they quickly started interacting with beautiful girls, and within seconds to a couple minutes the girls are really enjoying their company. They are smiling really big, laughing. They were very glad that they were there and wanted them to stay.

The seminar parts of the camp are very rich and you will be taking a lot of notes. Do your best to absorb and record as much as you possibly can. All of this information made sense and to me and it was golden. This is where you learn and record the concepts and material to learn and practice later at home.

The infield parts were probably the most valuable. The instructors helped us in many ways.

They pushed us to talk to women. It took pushing because cold approaching is a very difficult thing to do. They watched from a distance and told us if the girls were attracted to us or not. They also interacted with us and our sets to show us their skills and also to critique things we said in the set.

They helped us while infield. For example, the instructors had me practice opening on them. They saw that my delivery was too slow and very solemn. They had me rehearse in a faster and much more upbeat tone. It was so much better and we all saw how it was such a great improvement. It's a rule that they tell everyone to slow down but I was an exception. "You're the first guy I've ever had to tell to speed up" one instructor, Braddock, said. At best, it would have taken me months before I would have seen this simple thing. That's an example of the kind of personal fine tuning you'll get.

They debriefed us on our field performances. The day after each infield experience there was a debriefing. The instructors went down the row with each student and spent time with him, discussing what he did well and what he needed to work on. They could see inner and outer game issues that each of us needed fix. Often, those flaws were hurting other areas of our lives as well. They told us specific sources to read/listen to that would help us improve our weak points. Some of the sources they recommended were from within Love Systems and some were outside sources. These guys were awesome at reading us. They told me things about myself that no one else had told me.

People have criticized Love Systems because they say you're being dishonest. First of all, the comments that these people have made all indicated to me that they did not know enough about it. Some women desperately want all men to learn this. At the worst, it would be about tiny things that your ex-girlfriend said or some event you saw, small things of that nature. And it's really for the guys whose game is in bad shape and who can barely open a set. But the more capable one becomes, the more natural he becomes. It's really just practice or like make believe.

Another point with this is that they cover certain bonds that you can make with a woman that goes much deeper than sexual attraction. These are for developing a serious girlfriend and not for seduction. They stress that you should not use these for a one night stand or a sex partner. And you don't need to. Almost all the rest of the material is fine for that sort of thing. The point is that this is not at all about deception or using someone. They do not want you doing that.

LS has also criticized for being unnatural and scripted, and people can call you out on it. But they have largely gotten around this. They have updated and improved the techniques. I am familiar with the older versions of Love Systems and I can say that what was taught at my boot camp was more natural. They discourage doing things like dying a piece or your hair blue or using loads of routines. There were several revised parts to LS and they explained them. Most of the changes were easier to remember and use. Other things, especially their critiques of your individual game, were just common sense (examples: "Smile more", "Increase your energy", wear something like x,y,z because you will look better with it). You can use canned openers but they give you more natural sounding ones as well. Finally, for what it's worth, a target actually did call me out for using a canned opener. But I just smiled, waived it off, and she smiled and answered anyway. We kept talking, and soon she asked me to sit down. She lightly kino'ed me a few times as well. I felt that I had a good chance that I could have closed with her, but I wanted to practice opening more sets while I had PUA's helping me. This was an attractive woman who earns six figures.

People accuse this of being some sort of verbal Spanish fly and that you're manipulating women. The Game also makes it look this way to an extent. The PUA community, and this boot camp even more so, have taught me that many women are already interested in meeting someone, even to have sex that night. And there are a fair amount of women who, if you simply start talking to them and do a half decent job of interacting with them, that will be good enough. They will meet you halfway or even more. You will not become a PUA right after the boot camp, but if nothing else you will see that when you open a group you often will not get a bad reaction, even if it's something very direct like "I thought you guys were cute so I had to say 'hello'". I did a few times under the instructor's guidance. Most of the girls liked it.

Bottom line this was great, a lot of work but a lot of fun. You might not necessarily make best friends in the world with these guys, but there's definitely a kind of bond that the students and the instructors all have. I would do this several times again in a heartbeat.