Thread: Braddock & Mr M Bootcamp - Boston, January 2009

First off, I want to point out that I was the only guy who did the 'seminar ' portion of the bootcamp , and thus can't speak to the quality of the trainers in-field. This is a review of the material, as well as a review of the instructor's ability to convey the material:

I waited until the very last second to sign up for this bootcamp . Goaded by the flashing '1 spot left' on the 'bootcamp schedule' page, I hopped off the fence and took a chance. Like most other guys, I'd been weighing the pro's and con's of dropped enough money to buy a big-screen tv against any possible benefits. The customer service guy assured me that the money-back guarantee wasn't a sham, and that if I really was disappointed I could get my money back. So I held my breath, and jumped in.

I have never had a problem with having girls in my life; what I was lacking was quality, mostly in the 'emotionally well-adjusted' area. I went into the bootcamp looking for a way to fix this area. The improvements were immediate, and they were drastic. Braddock and Mr. M had a way of explaining the material that made it coalesce in my mind in a much more profound way that did the 'Magic Bullets ' e-book alone. Both of them had really funny and illuminating anecdotes in their arsenal to really explain every concept they were teaching. The stories really helped to solidify the concepts they were teaching in ways that reading bullet points alone can't. If only my law school professors were half as engaging! I might actually care what they were teaching.

As I said, even without being able to model these guys in the field, their instruction alone caused some immediate changes: the first night, I was able to take home a girl. The second night, I was able to make out with (within 5 minutes) and 'get intimate' (in the bathroom, within 15 minutes) another girl. But the prize of the weekend came without a doubt on the second day: after a freak accident (a mirror falling from 10' up giving me a concussion) sent me to the emergency room half way through the seminar , I was put in a neck brace to stabilize me until they could take some CAT scans and an X-ray. While sitting in the waiting room, feeling kind of dejected, a solid '8' sits down by herself. Normally, I would have tried to make eyes with her, or have some awfully banal conversation; but Braddock & Mr. M gave us a shit-ton of material to open with. This alone gave me the confidence to walk up to this girl (with neck brace still on) and say: "You know, normally I don't approach girls without neck braces on, but you're really cute, and I wanted to say hi". Needless to say, she was pretty amazed that I had to balls to do this, and I ended up getting her number before I went to get my CAT scan.

Again, I can't comment on the in-field portion of the weekend. From what the other guys said, it was amazing, and their improvements were immediate also. For all those guys who are sitting on the fence like I was a week ago, know that the material alone is enough to get you massive amounts of improvements. While I could get girls before, the amount of success I had this weekend would not have been remotely possible (nor would I have had the balls to pull it off) without Braddock & Mr. M laying it out in incredibly digestible fashion. These two guys are highly recommended!

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

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Mr. M and Braddock 's bootcamp fucking rocked. Coming from someone who has had a pretty good amount of successs with getting girls even before getting involved in the seduction community, I was concerned if a bootcamp was going to be as good at it's talked up to be. Boy was it! Unfortunately, there is no way to give it justice with words. It's just one of those things you really have to experience for yourself. I felt lucky to have these two instructors as a team because they complement each other so well and they come from completley two different backrounds. (oh and Big Business was there too. He is a guru of kino and is f'n hilarious, if you need cocky/funny he's your man). You can read as much material as you want but nothing will ever be as powerful as a bootcamp for your game. It's like running a diagnostics test on yourself to see exactly where your messing up with your game.


I'll give you my quick background because if you are somone who is coming from a similar place then you absolutely need to take a bootcamp with Mr. M and Braddock . These guys will be perfect for you:
I have had a good amount of success with girls in my life which was mostly a result of being a pretty good looking guy and being one of the athletic, socially outgoing 'cool' guys of my social circles. I've always been infatuated with hot chicks. It may sound stupid, but I literally just love how hot and cute some girls are (which is something my other guy buddies didnt seem to care about) That being said, as you could imagine there were many times when I couldn't get the girl I really wanted or I would lose a girl that I really liked after dating her for a lil while. Without going into details, some of these situations were really frustrating and put me into a minor depression. It created a lot of inner game issues, or rather it shined light on a lot of inner game issues that i already had. The most frustrating thing about it all was simply not understanding what it was I was did wrong or where i messed up. This led me to searching on the internet for 'how to make her want you' etc. type of shit which led me to The Game , David D, Love Systems , and the whole community in general. Even tho the material I was learning from the community was shedding new light into some of the things i was doing wrong (mostly just not being the alpha male and not being the sexual creature i was born to be), there is absolutely no substitute for what the bootcamp provides. I literally had so many eye-opening epiphanies this weekend, and just being like 'holy shit! that makes so much sense'.

Bottom line, this bootcamp really was a life changing experience. And I know guys hear that all the time on these reviews so by now it seems cliched. But seriously, it totally is changing my life, and I can see myself becoming the man i really want to be. If your thinking about pulling the trigger on a bootcamp , you just need to do it . An instructor will see what your sticking points are and will probably save you years of trying to do it on your own. Most importantly, these instructors truly care about you and your success.

Go get em!

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“Putting my cards on the table”

This review is more of an outpouring of admiration – more like adulation – for the instructors who taught this class: Braddock and Mr. M .

These men are astoundingly intelligent. Both have stark differences in appearance and technique but both are equally as deadly. Both are leaders. Both deserve to be the pick-up icons that they are. The proof is in the pudding. These cats are a fuckin threat!

Mr. M . is a strong-willed, Zen Buddhist-style philosopher with a rock solid “inner constitution.” I’m certain that he could bend a fork with just his stare (having awkward, 3-day eye-staring contests with his father probably helped). For the record, M. is not short and ugly. Instead, he’s intriguing looking with a huge, welcoming smile. He’s got good style. Plus, with his heels, he’s taller than I am.
Mr. M . is laid back and sure of himself. For guys our height, bagging a chick over 6’3” helps the ego. He did just that on Friday night. These guys get laid like rock stars. Dedicated to dating science (gave up lawyering for this) and responsible for developing and pioneering this technology, M. has earned his rank as London’s General.

Braddock is the shit. Period. This kid is every guy’s pimp older brother you wish you had. Although born in Oklahoma, he’s got the whole Cali, bad-boy identity locked. This guys oozes likability and attraction . He’s kind and has a sincere interest in helping people. His life-long journey on self-improvement is inspiring and contagious.
He admittedly curses like a sailor and rocks a lip ring, but he’s as professional and as sharp as any doctor or lawyer. His vocabulary is impressive. He has mastered psychology, and his weekly diet of two books strengthens his credibility as a top instructor. His understanding of the material and connection to the students are excellent. I’m urging him to eventually become a lawyer because if he has this kind of impact on students and on hot women, think what he could do with jurors! I’m already dying to see these guys again.

The entourage was not complete without Big Business , Dahunter , and Pres. Big Business is the quick-witted comedian with excellent improvisational responses. His instruction on kinos and routines were excellent. He’s a serious LoveSystems player and we’ll see him as a lead instructor soon. Too bad his computer, while on his lap, fell victim to a 75-pound piece of falling mirror that nearly amputated him. His in-field instruction feedback was awesome. There’s a lot to like about this kid.

Dahunter is the suave-as-fuck, latin lover who is ruthlessly open about his sexual intentions. He’s got super strong lovesystems .com/audio/vol-26-direct-game-soul -badboy -cortez" target="_blank" class="gal">direct game and a strong sexual identity . Ill style too. Daughters, wives, and fiancées are in serious trouble if this guy is anywhere in the building!
Pres is the smooth businessman who is just as dangerous. He’s dedicated to the arts and deserves a spot on the LoveSystems squad. I appreciated his input and presence as well.

I went to this bootcamp interested to be how the best look, think, and operate. For this reason alone, this bootcamp was worth it. The cutting edge, practical lessons and routines make the investment more than worth it. It will catalyst you into a lifestyle filled with beautiful women. The bonds you’ll build and the skills you’ll develop will change your life. This bootcamp will solidify your understanding and application of the Emotional Progression Model . But these guys bring tons more valuable and practical things like Trigger Words,” tons of routines, and concepts like the Inverted Seduction Principle.

The Venues were hot and my opening /attraction output was high. I got twisted on Redbull/Vodka’s both nights but hey, it was a mothafu_kin party. I still hustled and put in good work. I’m picky. Even though I did well, I still did not manage to get a cutie to bounce to my hotel room. I enjoyed watching my comrades run some tight game.

An extremely valuable part of the seminar is the de-briefing, the day after each in-field night . Each guy recites his adventures and revelations. We loved re-living these experiences and receiving feedback. M. and Braddock listened to and helped each student as if that student was the only one they’ve ever had. I was particularly impressed by their undivided and focused attention to each student during debriefing. Man, I love these fuckin guys.

This bootcamp put in the front of my mind the importance of statements of interest coupled with touch. This is what separates the men from the boys. Breaking out of our comfort zones and expressing sexual interest is necessary to succeed in this. I definitely broke out of some shells. So qualification and comfort here I come.

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well put jesseelite. i'm so pissed we didnt get a chance to sarge together at the bootcamp but i'm coming down to see you for sure within a months time.. you can count on it

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Originally Posted by TheIceMan22

well put jesseelite. i'm so pissed we didnt get a chance to sarge together at the bootcamp but i'm coming down to see you for sure within a months time.. you can count on it

I know, dog. We're gonna get together soon and clean up. Feelin good, huh.

I have been only dating girls from my social circle so far and I had been considering cold approaches kind of sleazy. However, I literally ran out of options there, so I wanted to try something new. I have read Magic Bullets a couple of weeks ago, which I liked but felt that it did not really push me enough and felt the need to kick-start the whole thing and give me a more intense learning experience. Coincidentally, a bootcamp with Mr. M and Braddock was scheduled in Boston right on time.

I was really excited but unsure of what to expect in terms of what the other people would be like and especially what the instructors would be like. Turns out, the guys there, both attendants and instructors, are one of the most awesome guys I have met in a long time. The whole thing did not really feel like a seminar , it was more like hanging out with your friends and telling fun stories about how to pick up girls. Now, don't get my wrong, there was a ton of material. I filled a whole notepad on this one weekend. However, there was so much depth in how they explained and lived what they were teaching us.

You can learn a million routines and have read every book about seduction out there and still have zero success if you don't know how to deliver it. I could tune into how they think and see the world through their eyes for the first time. This was a total revelation for me, especially in field. These guys know what they are talking about.

Even though the main topic is picking up girls, to be really successful you have to live it. Having better girls in your life is definitely a good incentive but ultimately it is actually about taking back the steering wheel in your life.

Much of the material was similar to what you can find in Magic Bullets but it has evolved and was presented in much more depth and felt more natural and organic. We also had a mini seminar about Inner Game which I appreciated very much. For me, routines are just a vehicle to get more comfortable to develop and use my own stuff. Everything came together for me for the first time.

First night in field was a total grind up of my approach anxiety . I would approach, no matter what. Get blown out. Shrug. I was completely brain dead the first night. MrM and BigBusiness where very helpful in coming up with ideas and especially feedback after every set. I felt, I had learned something new every time and especially gotten some experience of what it feels like to do cold approaches.

The second night was a blast. The plan was having fun, and hell, did we have fun. Practically every set I tried opened nicely, except for the few ones with boyfriends within earshot. Whenever the instructors saw me cruising around aimlessly they would point me at a set with hints on how to start the interaction. That was all I needed. At first, I did not think about routines or theory at all, after I felt comfortable in a set, however, some ideas popped up and helped in steering the interaction. Most importantly, reflecting on my interactions afterwards with all the theory in mind was very insightful and will definitely help me to learn quickly from my mistakes.

As a total newbie to cold approach this was an absolutely amazing experience. I will definitely pursue going out much more and with stronger intent than I ever did before.

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

Prior to the Boston bootcamp , I spent about three months reading every book on seduction I could get my hands on (e.g. the Game , Mystery method , Magic Bullets , Attraction Code , Double Your Dating, the Routines Manual , etc.). I also listened to a few of the audio interviews and I read a bunch of the classic writings on the Forum. One of my biggest concerns was that I wouldn’t be learning anything new. I was worried that since I had read all of these books, the seminar portion of the bootcamp would turn out to be a review of the same material. Boy was I wrong! What you have to realize is that the game is evolving every single day. Braddock and Mr. M are at the top of their game. These guys gave us lessons on the most cutting edge techniques out there. They were able to build on what I already knew and they added a whole new dimension to my game.

For the field portion of the bootcamp , we were split into two groups. The instructors would watch as we opened sets and then afterwards they would give us pointers so we could fix things right there. The instructors helped me get over my initial approach anxiety and then gave me a ton of feedback on practically every part of my game (my appearance, openers, attraction , qualification , etc.). I can’t even explain to you how valuable it is to have someone (who actually knows what they are doing) watching you and telling you exactly what you’re doing wrong. I’ll save you the details of each night, but I have to say that the kiss close at the end of the last night was the proof I needed that I was taking my game to the next level.

Another benefit of the bootcamp was the fact that I had a chance to meet other students of the game . When I arrived at the bootcamp on the first day, I was surprised to see such a diverse group. We had people from different ethnicities, different age groups, different parts of the world, and different levels of skill. On both nights in the field, we all worked like a team by winging for each other. The experience of spending the entire weekend in class and in the field really bonded us together as a group. I ended up exchanging numbers with some of the guys who are also from New York, so now I have some solid wingmen to go out with.

I spent a lot of time reading bootcamp reviews, reading the bios of each instructor and also reading some of the classic writings before I decided on the bootcamp I wanted to attend. I knew that if I was going to invest that much money, I wanted to make sure that I was learning from the best. Although I live in New York, I spent a little extra money on a flight to Boston and a hotel room because I wanted to attend a bootcamp led by Braddock and Mr. M . These guys are incredible teachers and amazing pickup artists. The most surprising thing for me was the fact that the seminar portion of the bootcamp was so much fun. We were learning a ton of new material each day, but we were also laughing and having a great time while we were doing it. Braddock and Mr. M are seriously two of the funniest guys I’ve met and they made the bootcamp incredibly entertaining and a whole lot of fun.

This bootcamp really took me to a whole new level. What I learned in one weekend probably would have taken me months in the field to figure out on my own. Now I have all the tools I need to be a master pickup artist. All I need is a little more practice in the field…

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

If you have read any of the other reviews for Braddock and Mr. M . then you know that they are two great personalities that complement each other very well. After having attended one of their bootcamps I can only echo those sentiments wholeheartedly. These guys are great. They aren't over the top PUA's, they are dudes that you can relate to. Besides being able to diagnose your issues instantly, they made the whole experience fun. I felt like I was hanging out with buddies the whole weekend. This was never truer to me than when we all went out to a bar down the street after bootcamp was over to go watch the Superbowl. Braddock and Mr. M . could have said they were busy and reasonably taken the position that "Hey, I did my part by instructing them all weekend, now I want to get away from these guys and go watch the Superbowl." but they did the opposite. They really are chill guys that you want to be around and that makes the experience so much more rewarding.

But I'm not going to get into much about the bootcamp . It improved my game significantly and it helped reorient my approach to an area in my life that I was never completely satisfied with but you can read that sort of stuff on other posts. I want to talk about the cost, because besides for coming to terms with the concept that I was participating in a workshop to improve my ability with women, the hardest thing for me was coming to terms with the fact that I was going to pay $3,000 to take part in a workshop designed to improve my ability with women. The hefty price tag (and yes, while I could afford it it still was a hefty price tag for me) just magnified the ignominy about the whole thing. So the question is, did I get my money's worth?

The answer is yes, absolutely. It's a matter of Return on Investment (ROI). Now, how do I mean that in the context of a Lovesystems Bootcamp ? Well, before I was immersed in the world of Game I thought my only chance to be a rock star with women was to become rich and successful. My plan was to work hard, be professionally successful and then bask in my reward of an endless supply of high quality women....

I hope you can see the flaws in that line of thinking. First of all, there are plenty of men who do that. They are in their mid 30's, they have a great job, plenty of disposable income yet they can't get a date. If they do get hot women, they are usually gold-diggers and the inner game issues that plagued those guys have never been properly dealt with. Not to mention that plan of acquiring success for the purposes of getting high quality women in your life takes many years, many thousands of hours of labor, a lot of capital invested and an enormous amount of stress.

Meanwhile, by expending $3000 I was able to learn many ways specific to me where I need to improve my game. I was able to overcome issues with Approach Anxiety because Bootcamp , is well, a bootcamp . Just like a real bootcamp the instructors push you past your social breaking point so that you can approach women with considerably less fear. On top of all that, the class is full of self-starters (because losers don't have the balls to admit that they need help and stay home masturbating instead of dealing with their female issues) and because of the bond we share and our desire to improve ourselves, I now have a whole crew to go sarging with (we've already all been out as a group since bootcamp ).

So take me and guy X. We both have the same investment goal of having success with high quality women. I spend $3000 and get a lot closer to that goal. Guy X, works his ass off at a job for many years, gets promoted, realizes he now has the success but he doesn't have the women, and goes out to trendy upscale bars where he continues to stand on the wall next to other wealthy guys futilely trying to get females to notice him while watching me work the bar approaching sets. Which guy do you think got better return on his investment?

So if you have read this rambling thing this far then you are probably on the fence about joining a bootcamp . In that case I would say take a good hard look in the mirror. If you are pursuing a career in medicine, for example, because you have always wanted to be a doctor, that's great go for it. If on the other hand you are pursuing a career in medicine because you think that you will be able to get the girl of your dreams when you are a doctor then you have to rethink how you go about achieving your objectives. And once you're done comtemplating, sign up for a bootcamp and do your damndest to make sure Braddock and Mr. M . are your instructors.

Good Luck!

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This was actually my second time doing a bootcamp with this company. It was awesome the first time (in June 2006), and everything that it was cracked up to be, but personal issues kept me out of the field until now, when I felt like I needed a refresher, which was why I enrolled in the bootcamp a second time. I definitely have no regrets about doing so. Although I wish our group had been a little smaller overall to allow for more personal attention during the seminar portions, we definitely did get enough personal attention during the in-field portion from the instructors, which helped me with a lot of my sticking points and advanced my game, which had been in a serious funk due to inner game issues and others, by a light-year. My involvement with the community has done far more for me in addressing my inner game issues than all my therapists ever have combined, and even if you, like me, have serious inner game issues that hinder your success with women, I would still strongly encourage you to enroll in a bootcamp , as it will take you a long way toward working out your issues.

As for value added in comparison to merely purchasing Magic Bullets , nothing can take the place of the bootcamp . Not only did the seminar cover a lot of material not covered in Magic Bullets , but there is no substitute for live demonstrations and in-person coaching from people who know what they are doing.

I won't repeat the above reviews; Braddock and Mr M et al. are all amazing, as merely observing them in action shattered many of my long-held limiting beliefs. You can tell that they all really care about their students and really go the extra mile to try to help them, making the overall bootcamp experience worth far more than what I paid for it. I have only the highest praise for them and can guarantee that if you take a bootcamp with them that your experience will be just as positive as mine was.

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

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Awesome reviews guys! Probably the most fun bootcamp I've been apart of.

Jesselite: "I'd like to give a shout out to my team.."


Classic.....

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