Thread: Mr M Bootcamp - Munich, January 2009 (w 5.0)

I just returned from the Munich bootcamp with MrM , Soul and 5.0 . I had an amazing time and was able to improve my game by at least 100%, thanks guys, you were great. In order to give you some ideas how I arrived at this conclusion, I better outline my goals and the status quo BEFORE and AFTER the bootcamp .

I am looking for quality women and used to have (not anymore, hehehe) a tendency to end up in the friendship zone when meeting one. From the very beginning the instructors focused on my personal needs in overcoming potential obstacles in achieving my goals. The major issues were:

a) How can I approach as many women as possible in a short period of time to drive my sample size up, therefore implementing a more efficient and effective screening process?
b) How do I escalate properly in order to avoid the friendship zone and rather move her to my little private f-zone ;-) ?

For the first issue MrM showed me in field, at a local Munich club, how I can successfully approach sets of women both indirectly and directly. Not only was I able to study his approach and devise my own openers and approach tactics, he was also very creative when it came to “encouraging” me to approach random, hot women. This lead to about 50 approaches of hot women in two nights with my approach anxiety reduced to 1% of its original level (If there is none, the women is not hot enough ;-) ). Guess that’s where the word boot camp comes from. I don’t know, but how long has it taken you to approach 50 hot chicks? More or less than 2 nights? The times that I do not approach hot chicks because I don’t dare are over.

For the escalation part I was successfully coached by Soul , who even offered me assistance while I was in set (I had to keep myself from laughing out loud). I finally understood why so many previous dates and approaches did not end up where I wanted them to end up, simply because I failed to escalate and show my sexual intent in a manly way. Well, you better believe me, those times are over now as well.

At the end of the second night, everything came together for me. I was completely in tune with my environment…I opened sets, moved them, got phone numbers, escalated some more…then withdrew just to approach another hot chick that had just caught my eye.

And this is just the beginning…..

pisquare

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It's three days now since the bootcamp finished and I'm still fairly excited about it. When I arrived at Munich a day before the seminar I was an absolute beginner.
Now, over the course of one weekend, I have approached at least 40 women. In my "previous" life that was a figure I would perhaps achieve in a year (....only to end up in the "friend zone" at best, most of the time )
Naturally, there were many blow-outs and some sets simply didn't hook or the conversation went flat after a while. In the past a failed "approach" or not being able to maintain a conversation with a girl I fancied would have put a dent in my entire night. Last weekend, for the first time, I was able to leave such interactions and just shrug it off. Then I would take a few deep breaths and just go for the next.
And as the night(s) went on and I kept pushing myself I had approaches that went well. The positive vibe from those was bliss.
I know that I have my work cut out for me and tons of stuff to learn before I get where I want - I'm taking the first steps of a long and hard journey. But I left Munich with a clear sense of the direction for that journey and with a great sense of achievement.

Yours, freeenergy

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Review of Munich Bootcamp .


Jan, 23-25, 2009


First day was cold and rainy and getting there somewhere in the outskirts of the inner circle of Munich was a little bit mysterious: the address - somewhere in an apartment house – I was actually wondering if there is going to be someone…or if someone actually found a smart way of getting some 3 kUS from me ;-)
Alright, then downstairs some guy looked at me kind of friendly, asked whether I was there for the bootcamp “9th floor, last door right.” Got up there and found ca. 10 guys up there in a living room…
During the 1st hour I realized that I was not the latest one getting there…and we got started with introducing us with focus on what experience we already had with the LSI…
Soon after we got into the material…and for the first day, clear focus was to get to know the general emotional progression model and the approach phase (opening + transition).
Good thing here was to get some practical examples as what to say, to get the opportunity to exchange and hear experiences from one another..and to see that in the and the trick is to get “un-sensitive” to the “un-successful” approach.
That was also the focus of the in-field seminar in the evening.

We started off a little early – getting there at 10 pm it was still pretty empty…also Friday night was not the biggest for that location…but it filled up soon.
Anyway, approach was the goal and there was plenty of girls…and our instructors really sent us in…my first one was a wing job…so, some fellow-learner had already opened the 4-set…and I got in extremely easily…and into talking…and flirting…my buddy left..and I was caught with the 4 girlies…so, I found a nice way to merge out to…next thing was to get a drink…so, I went to the bar, and without real intention got into a chat with the lady behind the bar…which over the evening extended into a large flirt. One of the instructors then told me to stop and get back to the learning: how to open...then the next guy sent me into a 2-set to try direct opener…she was pretty tall (even taller than me) and f……horny. Don’t know whether it was her alcohol level, the fact that finally a guy of the same size was talking to her…or what ever. Within < 5 min she got very touchy and within 15 min we were discussing here pierced nipples…to hot: I had to de-escalate. Was worried to get done by her right there on the dance-floor…escaped I went back to my bar-lady (who had asked me to come back when there’s less people around…) and very easily slit into comfort .
After some real good chat I just left to find some of my buddies. Just approached a single lady that walked away and took me to her friends – 2 pretties where I got into another chat...when they moved to dancing I just walked up to another lady standing in the corner kinoing straight away...with my wingman getting super-worried since he was talking to her husband – a big scary Bavarian! Took me 15 min. Of guy’s talk to calm him down and then wind out...F...the bar had closed but I hadn’t no. Closed the bar-lady because I wanted to be back earlier – lesson learned.
Anyway: the practice of the night was successful: no bad feelings if approach doesn’t work.


2nd day seminar : A lot about attraction . Push&Pull, Lock-in, False time constraints.
Teasing . THEN about importance of qualification . Dominance!!
Sexual escalation: have to pump it up constantly without de-escalation to keep her energy up and going. When to give her emotional peaks – I’m actually pretty good at teasing ...but did never realize that in Comfort I’ll have to reduce that and ...show vulnerability, create commonalities etc.

2nd night out: Winging some of the co-students...and always worked out. Opened my own set (I love short-haired girls) who told me about her open relationship with her boy-friend...no chance to re-open because...really just wanted to get drinks. Buddy opened...I just wanted to wing distracting her girl-friend..got into talking and told her about my band...which made her want me to talk to her friend – a singer.
And she was cute – a real beauty...telling me about her sexually-inspired lyrics (“no point in getting undressed for you guys..”), kino being very natural...then my wing -man pissed off her friend so they left...she wanted to return..but I should have no. Closed(!). 5 min. later instructor sends me in to wing with a false time constraint...which got me into a 2 hour flirt with that tall girly with those Brigitte Bardot lips...a real hard one to qualify .. ;-) got really far, no.closed..but should have done it earlier...then strolling around looking for my buddies..
I should mention: all evening buddies and instructors were dropping by from time to time to drop little instructions (mostly how to escalate, how to lock-in, how to handle IODs etc.). Thanks for that! This is in-field work that really helps.

but they seemed to be gone...wherever...so, I decided to kick me out with a last drink, opened another girl with her camera, danced loosely with her and her friend...when that cuty IOIed me from across the bar...usually, I’m not into lovesystems .com/audio/vol-26-direct-game-soul -badboy -cortez" target="_blank" class="gal">direct game ..but the whole warm-up through 2 days + the alcohol just made me go there without thinking...using a bad opener...but still getting attraction going right away..she was about to have Tequila shots, so, I ordered another one...and must have looked kind of helpless with it...because she showed me how to do it: “You have to: Lick, Suck & Bite”, I must still have looked cause she repeated...still looking stupid? Well: she took my hand and SLOWLY LICKED it (!) put salt on and then we had the shots and bit the lemons. I could only stumble: “What do you want me to lick for you today?”
She said:” Well, we’re going to another club, you should come along.” Then the strangest thing happened: a girl approaches and hugs her, then she goes: “this is my girl-friend and she’s pretty jealous...” then they start to make out right in front of me...and I just don’t get it any more... 
the next-day review brought me good advice for solution.

Next day seminar going more into comfort , seduction , text game , sexual approach ..

All very helpful stuff.

On the train back home I decided to activate a slow-burn I had met 4 weeks before...and where I already felt her heating up through text game ...dominance: just said I wanted to meet her. Next evening we met. Was a little late, her a little pissed...hug, tease . Setting emotional spikes for her...get a seat in the bar to LOCK-IN  and 10 min into the date we made out heavily...before kino was limited to legs touching, so, I was already getting insecure. But when she turned her head away showing me her neck...this looked like an IOI that I then used...then at some point she pulled back “I’m not that kind of girl...not so quick”. What do I reply? First I’m just nodding, then I pull a vulnerability story...and feel how she eases up as I loose the player status. Later we go into animals and share secrets...unbeatable basis for the lay... ;-)

Guys: this is really a lot of money...on the other hand, I really learnt a lot of stuff. Maybe, the strange thing is that intuitively I already knew lots of the stuff. Just consciously applying it is still a different story. Now, I can really try sth. and observe te reaction ...and learn from it.. also, I met a lot of guys with the same interest...which give me a very valuable network...

I believe now that this stuff is really powerful...and that there is no doctrine at all. Everyone has his individual game...I learnt about my specific spots to improve...and now have good material to work and improve.

Thanks

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

Hi guys..
thanks for the great review..wanted to attend the bootcamp as well, but it just didn't work out this time.. bummer.
just have a few questions......

did you guys game in english or german? was there a problem with language?
i've been living in Germany for a while now and can speak the language fairly well.. but gaming in German is a whole different thing. I can never be as smooth and coherent as i am with English especially when it comes to story-telling or witty replies.

anyway, just wanted to know what your experiences were with regards to language....
thanks in advance!

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Hello chilli_P,

most of us were native German speakers...and of course that makes it easier in a way...but we had 3-4 non-German speakers - among them some of the strongest openers. Actually, a same night lay was non-German. My own experience is that yes, you're smoother in your own language. BUT: you have the exotic bonus in a foreign language...actually, when winging English speaking guys, I was speaking English all the time...which give you different possibilities: you can ask more questions that to a native would already be clear...

Originally Posted by chili_P

Hi guys..
thanks for the great review..wanted to attend the bootcamp as well, but it just didn't work out this time.. bummer.
just have a few questions......

did you guys game in english or german? was there a problem with language?
i've been living in Germany for a while now and can speak the language fairly well.. but gaming in German is a whole different thing. I can never be as smooth and coherent as i am with English especially when it comes to story-telling or witty replies.

anyway, just wanted to know what your experiences were with regards to language....
thanks in advance!

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Hi guys here is my short review of the munich bootcamp !!

First of all I woild like to thank the instructors Mr M , 5.0 and Soul fot this great experience. I will not go in to detail about what is told but skip right to the infield experiences. (don't mind my spelling, i'm not a native speaker)

Let me tell you something about the instructors, Mr m is a really easygoing relaxed guy how really now's what he is talking about, hanging around him will improve your game drastically. 5.0 is a crazy motherfucker with serious game, high energy and alot of humor involved. Soul invented beeing sexy, hahaha this guy takes the sexual escalation to a higer level were I would of thought the only way out would be two black eyes. Only future will tell if I can keep these pretty brown eyes af few days longer.

So the first night we went to a club wich was not super packed, I got pushed into a 4set and had really no problems keeping conversation with the lady's/girls but knew straight away this was not escalation material so moved on. 2nd set was the same story so left this also after a short wile. Third set I opened was a whole diiferrent story, my fuck!!!! This chick needed some conversation to get attracted but once she was I seen a hole different side of her (In my eyes a much nicer side ; ) ) Because of great winging skills of my man 5.0 I was able to bounce her around and kiss close her a short while later! Thnx 5.0 for your input here. The only problem was that I couldn't get rid of her to practice my "skills" on some other girls in the club. We were kissing like f*cking 16 year olds in the club but who cares. After we left the club together we went to her pleace for "breakfast" and ended up having a 5 course menu! yes the eagle has landed! ; ) hahaha!

Second night we went to another club close by wich was a bit more difficult to open the sets, loud music and in my eyes alot of girlls with an attitude. I go out allot in Holland and maybe it was my bad hairday but I usually don't get the reactions I got there, a bit stuck up girls. But no worry's there were plenty off girls who were interrested in my conversation but unfortuanetly not in my toung up their throat. Bad luck! I feel if it was in dutch it would me much more easy to show my real identity and throw in alot more humor and teasing .

I left this club with a memory of a good night out and I met a celebrity from the famous doctor's serie ER. My Swiss friend whom I drove home with resqued a guy from an epeleptic attack like George Clooney while I was eating my pizza! hahaaha respect my man!!!

So all in all, great weekend, met alot of nice people over there and got alot more insight about the do's and dont's! It will improve my game alot!

Thnx to all the instructors with a special thnx to 5.0 for the great winging in the first club!

Take care!!

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Review of Munich Bootcamp

I participated on the Bootcamp of Mr. M , 5.0 and Soul in Munich in January 2009. Although I’ve read some books on the topic before and had from my college years some experience in cold approach (of course back then I didn’t knew that it has a name…), what made me a big impression that next to the funded practical experience, this guys have a really comprehensive background knowledge on the whole range of personal and men-to-woman relationships and the underlying psychology.

During the 3x 5 hours theoretical part the instructors have dealt with nuances that can’t be find in books, but which can make or break your interactions. At the end of the classroom session I felt the pressure on the instructors to finish on-time, but it’s understandable, because these are topics, you could talk about for hours and hours…

I think that the in-field practice is an inevitable part of the Bootcamp , since it’s no use of any knowledge without having the ability to apply it; I highly recommend taking it. They have pushed us in sets and gave us valuable feedback immediately. A 3rd night in-field practice or some sort of follow-up program would have been useful, but I guess, the field reports and after workshop co-operation between participants can take the role of that.

I liked very much that the instructors provided all participants with tailored /personalized debrief and resources for improving their game, lifestyle and personality.

To sum up, the Bootcamp was a very confirming experience for me, it reinforced that I am able to approach and build connection with random people. I really liked the attitude of Mr. M who said, that instead of just running routines on sets, our goal should be to become a ‘natural’ and to get a lifestyle which is worth it, because this is the key to success not just with women, but in all area of life.

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Originally Posted by Crazy I

Thnx to all the instructors with a special thnx to 5.0 for the great winging in the first club!

Dude, you ran that one like a pro! You were literally doing everything we told you perfectly and you got laid - awesome!

This was a great bootcamp , we were all unsure what Munich would be like, but Im really glad we came! Despite the completely varyin glevels of experience I saw a definite change in everyone and so all Ill say is make sure you go out, enjoy yourselves and keep practising!

Also, P1 - ridiculous club, you want hot girls in Munich? Go there!!!

Make sure y'all keep in touch and post your progress on here (or the Lounge if you want to keep it more discrete as only ex-bootcamp guys get accounts )

Nice.
-5.0

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I had the privelidge to work as Approach Coach on this BC in Munich.
After this very new experience for me to stand at the other side of this seminar and watching the Instructors do their job (and helping out at the Infiled part) I can´t do anything else to recommend these three guys to everyone who really wants to change his lovelife!
MrM , 5.0 and Soul did an awesome job with these guys and definetely live what they teach!

It was amazing for me to see these changes these guys went through in only three days, you definetely could see their eyes lit up, the BL and minds changed ready to go to meet some girls.
One student said to me after the second Infield part: “My new life begins now!”
Nuff said.

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