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Conversation · #1 01-12-2009, 01:19 AM

This was a great week end and worth every cent, even if the £sterling has collapsed! The total of 15 hours of seminars and discussions over 3 afternoons went like 15 minutes...amazing! I am 58 and consider myself something of a master in the specialist arts (almost a science in the hands of MrM and his co tutors) being taught, but my game was 100% improved...the rest of the crowd was of course much younger, but all made me very welcome and in some ways I suspect I benefited more than they did because they were learning afresh but I was learning to change! I would have been happy to have picked up just one or two new techniques over the whole week end but in fact I noted 6 completely new and counter intuitive approaches, one of which has already worked for me...thank you guys! My next course will be in the States where (so they tell me!) my very expensive Oxford accent will give me the edge!

Fluid_Meercat · #2 01-13-2009, 07:41 AM

Hey Everyone-

Just got back from the London Bootcamp and thought I'd post my review sooner rather than later....It's Mike by the way for those of you wondering...

There aren't many single events or experiences that actually turn out be life changing, but I'd consider taking this Bootcamp to be one of them. I literally walked in the door on Friday one person, and left Sunday a different person. I was always generally shy and introverted, particularly around women, but the Bootcamp helped me to destroy many of my fears and limitations of my greatest obstacle- THE APPROACH. The Bootcamp showed me that many of these fears and limitatons were in fact groundless and self-imposed, and taught me to bask in the rush of the Direct Approach. I can't really express in words the emotional, psychological and even physical change that happened
to me. I went from being unable to open at all, out of sheer terror on the first night, and by the end of the second night, I was opening using ONLY direct openers, and chomping at the bit to open more. For me, the change was literally almost overnight.

I wont bother writing about the breakdown of the seminars, as there's hundreds of other posts that do that, but I can go over how the different instructors handled the bootcamp.

There wasn't the usual teacher/student barriers, as all 4 of the instructors talked TO you instead of AT you, and were all very warm, friendly guys who GENUINELY cared about the wellbeing and progress of their students. The great thing was that all of the instructors helped their students fine tune and tailor what the'y learned in the seminars to individually fit the nature of the student. For me, I was taught both Indirect and Direct Openers, and on discovering my talent for Directness, that was what they helped me to focus on and develop.

So, all in all, the best money I've ever spent. To those of you reading this who are considering taking a bootcamp, I know the prospect is scary, but it takes balls to admit theres something wrong with your life as it stands, and even bigger balls to take the decision to do something about it. BUT...if your looking for some sort of instant fix or 'magic bullet', there isnt one. This will only work for you if you have the WILL to apply what you've learned, and if you really, truly, WANT to help yourself to change. This is not passive learning, and you can take every bootcamp offered for the next year, but if you havn't got the will to change yourself for the best, you'll be no further ahead then when you started. If you've ever felt that you wanted to be much more than you were, this will change your life, the same way it changed mine.

My only suggestion for how this could be improved upon would be to have one final night of infield on Sunday to learn to apply the final stages of what was covered during the final day of the seminar, but it being Sunday night, I realise this might be logistically dodgy....

Summing up, I'd like to thank Mr. M for his (lliterally) endless patience on the first night in trying to help me find the balls to open directly, and his breadth of knowledge he delieved during the seminar with humour and energy.

Also on the first night of in-field, I'd like to thank 5.0, for physically changing my body language from that of a little meercat bouncing about on crack (due to a lifetime of bad nerves) to much more self-containted, calmer image. You helped me more than you know, in telling me the things that were wrong with my body language and eye contact, basically what nobody ever did before but should have.

For the second night of in-field training, I'd like to thank Keychain for helping me find the thrill of the success of the Direct Opener, and his laid-back, calm approach to teaching helped me apply what I'd learned in a natural manner. Again man, I think you helped me much more than you were aware of at the time.

Daxx is another instructor with a very laid-back approach to teaching, but unfortunately I didn't spend that much time working with him, except for a bit on the first night.

Shit....I've just scrolled up and seen the length of this....I apologise to those readers with ADD....

So, in closing, I wish all the instructors and everyone who took the bootcamp with me, all the best in the coming months.

Muckrake · #3 01-13-2009, 08:01 PM

I'll write a review in a bit but I wanted to bring up a couple of points after the first posts.
Fluid Meercat spoke of the emotional and psychological change he underwent last weekend and he is the best person to speak to that. He also spoke of the "physical" change. Some people may be sceptical but the other students can attest to that. He is serious about the change. His user name was well chosen.
I think this bootcamp enhanced the lives of everybody on it. But, in the case of Fluid Meercat, it provoked a literal physical change, as he said. I'm sure Mr. M could pinpoint exactly what happened, but I can't. Out of professional habit, I spent a lot of time observing the other students. I can just say he looked entirely different by Sunday - no change in dress, hair, etc - just in subcommunications I guess. I swear that I got goose bumps witnessing the change. I told my buddies about you the next day.
As for Conversation, you took the text game prize.
During the talk on text and phone game, several students whipped out their mobile phones and actually started texting girls as the instructors illustrated how to do it and analyzed the results. Hilarious! And educational.
Conversation acheived the wittiest, most intriguing reply. Fun stuff.
Lastly, the thread seems to say this was a November, 2008 bootcamp. It was actually January, 2009.

Mark_W · #4 01-14-2009, 03:42 PM

Hey guys, Mark here (the tall guy that showed up for the in-field bits). Glad everyone seemed to learn to much and most importantly enjoy themselves!

The difference between meeting everyone on Friday night and on Saturday night was incredible. Body language changed in a big way in pretty much everyone. Seeing people who were terrified to approach on Friday approaching with ease and confidence was great. It took me way longer to do that!

I've forgotten nearly all the students' names but if anyone wants to get in touch, feel free to PM me. And remember to keep practising pushing your comfort zones.

Payroll · #5 01-15-2009, 12:31 PM

I’m writing this three days after the bootcamp. I’m sure I speak for all of attendees when I say that the experience was without a doubt life-changing. It may sound cliché, but that may be because there are so few things available to us that have this kind of effect. In our group of guys, we had everyone from college students to established and successful entrepreneurs, but the effect on every individual was huge. Working with Mr M, 5.0, Keychain and Daxx was like re-awakening the part of us that we knew was there – the side that can flirt with women, get them emotional and attracted, and just be seen as the kind of guy who women want to be with sexually and in general.

Like I said, there were all manners of successful men at the bootcamp, but just by being there it’s obvious that we all agreed that success with women isn’t optional – it’s not something to stand around and wait for. Think of it this way, being successful with women is a skill that takes work and perseverance just like anything else. You wouldn’t accept any thinking on your part that you “got lucky” with your job, your house, etc, so why would you possibly accept that mindset when it comes to the women in your life? If you’re reading this review, it’s likely that you’ve already heard of the merits of LoveSystems and their instructors, and your trying to decide whether it’s worth it to take a bootcamp. Instead of just debating it in your own head, take the word of the thousands of guys who have already been, and who now have choice with the women in their lives.

For guys who aren’t so excited with the idea of using scripted lines and routines, all I have to say is take the plunge and work with Mr. M. This guy will teach you how to be NATURALLY attractive to women, using the built in attractiveness of your life and your personality. It’s just obvious interacting and learning from him that he has been with the highest quality women and taught hundreds of students to achieve similar success. That experience seems to give him the ability to pinpoint the exact traits that each person should project, and the most effective way to project them. It’s obvious that his understanding of female psychology is so deep that he can see exactly what works for whom, and how they can make it work. Again, look at the women in your life and ask yourself “can I do better?” – chances are (unless you’re Brad Pitt’s twin) you can do A LOT better no matter what level you ‘re on.

Kaizen5 · #6 01-15-2009, 12:54 PM

The bootcamp was definitely worth it. Even besides the techniques taught, the sheer social pressure of the infield was very beneficial. Going out and approaching so many sets so quickly, with experienced instructors always there to assist and critique you, gives the kind of rapid improvement you’d normally only get through long experience.

There was something like two students for every one instructor, as well as an approach coach, which is kind of like a technician who specializes in pushing people into sets. Each instructor was knowledgeable and engaging in the seminar and helpful in the field.

Mr. M was the main speaker in the seminar and also worked with us during the infield. He’s a very easygoing guy, and his enthusiasm and passion for the subject held our attention throughout the seminars, which is pretty impressive considering each day was about five hours.

All in all, a useful and fun experience. Pay close attention to the individualized feedback they give after each night of the infield- that’s where you’ll hear the most insight into what you specifically can do to keep on track after the bootcamp is over.

Daxx · #7 01-15-2009, 12:57 PM

It was awesome to see the transformation in all of you guys over the course of the bootcamp. The main thing now is that you keep doing & implementing what you've learnt, and even more importantly, go have fun with it

Was great to meet you guys, and glad to have helped! Drop me a message if you ever have anything you wanna ask.

All the best,

-Daxx

Judge Dreads · #8 01-17-2009, 03:56 AM

I started saving for this January 2008, along the way I had doubts about using all this money in one weekend. Now I can say without a doubt, Mr M's bootcamp is totally worth it!

I've read most of the Love Systems stuff, the seminar was good because I could ask questions and get direct feedback. I learned some great insights and techniques.

The first night was focused on volume of approaches (open, transition) which I found so useful. By the end I had no trouble approaching attractive girls, but more importantly, I had no trouble getting blown out. The bar felt more like a playground than a hostile social environment, great! I got to spend time with different instructors so got to see their different styles. Big thanks to 5.0 for pushing me into opening the two hot blondes, 10's, at the bar on night two, wouldn't have done otherwise (I've started on 10's so I must finish, TGO!).

I heard somewhere that it's better to know what you want out of something before you set out to do it. From the bootcamp I wanted experience of cold approaching and some kind of blueprint that I can take and practice after. I feel that I have gained both. It was great to make friends with the other students, who were all damn cool, and it felt good to share some of the same goals. Mr M, 5.0, Daxx and Keychain all had great energy, enthusiasm and passion for what they do, so if anything I was glad to be there just for that. Best thing was that considering their skill levels and vast experience, I never felt like I was talking to some kind of untouchable celebrities, just cool guys who know what their stuff.

Big things comin soon!

p.s. Also massive thanks to Mark and Andy, the guys infield!

5.0 · #9 01-17-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Judge Dreads

Big thanks to 5.0 for pushing me into opening the two hot blondes, 10's, at the bar on night two, wouldn't have done otherwise (I've started on 10's so I must finish, TGO!).

Dude, those girls were so hot!! TGO baby!

Was great to meet all you guys, you all stepped up and ran some super tight game, especially the guys that came to Maya with me!

As Daxx says, just go out and enjoy yourselves with this and crazy shit will start to happen!

-5.0

Abundance · #10 01-17-2009, 06:17 PM

"Life changing" is an often used phrase, I'd say that in 99.9% of cases it's totally unwarranted and incorrectly applied but a boot camp with LoveSystems is one of those rare occasions that it can be correctly applied... if you are receptive and put into practice what's taught then in just three short days these guys will change your life !

I figured that if the boot camp did nothing more than help alleviate the cold sweat of approach anxiety then it would be worth the asking price however I was dumb struck to see just how deep the LoveSystems boot camp goes.. they have deconstructed interacting with women to a scientific level and packaged it up into a very thorough course that addresses all the main points (and more) to give you the tools (and confidence in them and yourself) to succeed with women.

Mr M led the boot camp and having sat through many business presentations and courses in the past I have to say he is a fantastic presenter and instructor, he’s a great communicator, entusiastic and very knowledgeable on the whole range of social dynamics, not just game, and he’s able to ensure that everyone understands each concept by explaining it in different ways if needed until everyone gets it.

In fact the same can be said of all the instructors, they all know their stuff and they keep going until the penny drops for everyone! Mr M, Daxx, 5.0 and Keychain are all totally diverse characters who ply their trade very differently, I’m sure girls will class some as good looking and others as just normal looking guys but they all exude a similar energy, a chilled and contented vibe.. a "I'm where I wish to be" aura. They are all really cool guys who have the many facets of their lives together to a degree where you can actually feel it.

As mentioned elsewhere the other students were all great guys, very different characters but we all got on great and I’d love to see how some of the guys have evolved over the next six months as just in the space of 3 days people changed visibly, body language, posture, composure, confidence and outlook all changed for the better in everyone, I can imagine some interior dialogues went from something like “she’s far too hot to talk to”..to something more like “just do it.. what’s the worst that can happen.. just cut and move on if it goes bad .. there are millions of hot women out there” etc.

If you are umming and ahhing about a bootcamp ..reading every review ad still wondering if it’s worth it.. STOP now.. just book it and do it.. you are in the very best of hands with LoveSystems, Mr M, Daxx, 5.0 and Keychain (and Soul) are all top guys both personally and professionally, and work really hard on the boot camp so each and every student succeeds, book now you seriously will not regret it.