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10-22-2008, 06:55 PM
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| | | Hey guys, what up! I'm SteamRoller (The big 6'4 hip-hop lookin' guy at the superconference) and I gotta say that the Love Systems Superconference was awesome! Here's my review of the entire event as well as my evaluations: Oct 17th (Friday)
I live about an hour from LA, so I carpooled with a friend that was also going to the conference. When I arrived, I saw many students there as well as instructors waiting for the event to start. The main reason I wanted to attend the superconference was to check out the new skills and ideas Love Systems had to share and to also meet all the instructors. I'm an active member of one of the largest lairs in LA (Casanova Crew) and I took a bootcamp with BradP 4 months ago, which unlocked my potential and gave my game a boost. Anyway, Savoy gave an intro speech right at the beginning of the event. Afterwards, we had the choice of going to one of two rooms that had different speeches and exercises to do. Basically, one room for the beginners and the other room was for the advanced. I went to the advanced room the majority of the time since I was there to move my game up and not refresh what I already know, lol. When I would go to the room with the exercises, instructors such as Rokker, Big Business, Cajun, Biskit, 5.0, Soul, Prestige, Kisser, HiRoller, Moxie, Sphinx, etc. would be in there giving us demonstrations on how the techniques they spoke about worked. What really helped is when they split us up into groups with 1 instructor per group. Each instructor let us know what we needed to work on in our opening and transitioning, which was very helpful to all of us (I had opening down before we started, so I kept my style so I wouldn't get too much information in my head before I went out). I didn't go about into the speech room until Mr. M had his speech on Advanced Attraction. Overall, there was A LOT of information that was gold in the entire superconference! Much of it helped me a lot when I went out that same day. I wish I had a gold or higher ticker to go out with the instructors that day. Well... I had my training I'll never forget 4 months ago  . I had a great night that day, but I'd rather leave those details to a field report I could make. Long story short, I smacked a married HB9 girl in the ass without resistance, mini K-closed another girl, would've made out with a french girl at her place, but bad logistics got the better of me. Oct 18th (Saturday)
The first day that I missed a good amount of sleep. When I got there, I knew I was looking forward to the higher advanced material that was going to be shared with us that day. Many of the instructors greeted me respectfully, I bet nobody could forget my style and the size I had, lol. I made my way to the demonstration room to work on anything I might've needed correction on, but later, I went to the speech room to check out topics such as Social Circle Mastery, 10 minute lays, etc. I also saw Carlos Xuma outside and had a nice chat with him. He was very sociable and talked to me about how pick-up was back in the old days. I was very free sometimes and many of the instructors were open to talk to anybody one-on-one about their game. I also talked to BradP for a short time and he told me where I was at so far. He remembered me well and where my game was at every time I met him... hope that's a good thing, lol. I talked to many instuctors that day as well as all three days, but I'd rather leave my impressions in the evaluation section. I also met Sinn outside and talked with him a while. I wish I had more time to talk to him, he seemed like he was a great laid back guy! At that point, just being in that environment with the top instructors really gave some energy to my game, and after the second day, I was ready to go out again. I had more information in me, but I knew how to handle it well when I went out. When I went out, my lairs friends wanted to play a game where we say something to get blown out of a set and recover from it (Keys to VIP reference I guess) I tried it for the hell of it and couldn't get blown out for some reason, it seems natural for me to bring good energy and vibe to a set. I remember also carrying a HB8 asian girl in my arms whom I #closed later. One of my wings whom I trained was also there who was also still a little new to a game, and I was amazed how bold be became in a short time. JTR (leader of the CC) told me it was because of me that he was that good. I had my doubts, but was proud nonetheless. Oct 19th (Sunday)
I was almost dead tired this entire day, and didn't plan on going out afterward. However, there was great information to get down this day, so I had to keep my mind open! I went to the speech Soul had for Deep Rapport, and he also was able to give us our own demonstrations with how to get deep rapport. I was one of the volunteers and some guys were amazed at how it seemed that as big as I was, I turned into this little "teddy bear" as one guy told me when I left the room. Afterward, I went to the demonstration room to practice more of my rapport. I remember this day I also spoke with many instructors outside one-on-one, I was just so tried and didn't want to fall asleep in any of the rooms, but I was glad some instructors were there to talk to us. I went back into the speech room when Savoy talked about female psychology. I read magic bullets, but this speech had new elements that weren't even mentioned in the old version of magic bullets, but will be in the new one. I was amazed at his speech and took down good notes. Afterward, Dr. Paul came in and spoke about our pick-up techniques using science and psychiatry. Everybody was blown out of their seats with this guy, especially with his KWML test and how they apply to shit tests, I didn't want this guy to leave, lol. After all the speeches and demonstrations were done, Say gave his final closing and recognized londonsoul as the best instructor pick by the students. I didn't want to leave the conference, and gave my farewell to all the instructors there. It was amazing, Love Systems did a great job! I won't forget those 3 days! Evaluations:
Here's my own evaluations of the instructors I spoke to at the superconference. Savoy: When I got there, Savoy recognized me right away along with my friend JTR, the founder of the CC. I had many conversations with Savoy about pick-up and even business, he was very sociable. His knowledge on relationships and female psychology was excellent. I remember I also told him about this hot girl I was dancing with that was almost my height, and the look on his face when he heard that was priceless, lol. 5.0: He looked like a normal guy with an accent when I first looked at him. However, he did help me that first day with how to properly kino and move a girl right when the interaction begins. Thanks 5.0 for the good advise. Big Business: He reminded me of a friend I have that's rather small and walks like he means big business! He demos on body language were great and showed how much fun an interaction is, in which I feel the same about. Biskit: Noticed me a lot during the superconference. He helped me out a lot during the rapport exercises going one-on-one with me. He also told me that if I needed more help on that to see him and he'd gladly help. He also liked the opener I used on the first day as an example opener. Braddock: I've been meaning meet him ever since I heard he was the master at college game, since I am a college student. He was very sociable and helped me out with the situations I was in regardless of the little time he had before he had to do another interview series. In fact, I used his idea yesterday and led a good study group with nothing but girls and me in it. You were great Braddock, pleasure meeting you. Cajun: I heard about him from that Keys to VIP show, and I had a talk with him about the techniques I saw him use in the show. He remembered and identified them well and explained what you need to use them, mostly his French kiss routine. His idea of deep comfort is gold and should be well heeded! Fader: Finally got to meet the administrator of the forums. He was a funny guy and knew what he was talking about with bantering when I talked to him. He also remembered the love songs thread he created and told him about the dead hot new singer I told him to keep an eye on (Paula DeAnda). When I showed how she looked, we agreed she was hot, but we still had our differences, lol. HiRoller: I told him that his name was similar to mine, lol. His demonstrations with transitioning were great and ready knew what he was talking about. I'd like to see him in action one day. Kisser: He was surprised with the way I looked wearing my hip-hop gear. I told him he had a Chicago accent, when I first talk to him. He's a very great guy and positive as well. He helped me and others a lot with how to banter, and was a great help! Thanks Kisser. Moxie: I've been wanting to meet this guy as well, he had great knowledge in all he spoke about and helped our groups a lot pointing out what we needed to work on. He was also a favorite among the instructors. Mr. M: He reminded me of a classmate I had that was antisocial and too small to get any women. However, he was the complete opposite. I was impressed with his speech about advanced attraction and took a lot of notes. We talked a bit about different topics and was very friendly. He even laughed when I teased him about how much I could bench press compared to him. However, he's on the different side when it comes to picking up playboy models. Prestige: He was a great help in the demonstration room. His comments with body language, transitioning and opening were valuable and he had a good time with all of us during our demos. Rokker: He had a strong and playful vibe with this game as it seemed and really had a good time with all of us showing how these demos are supposed to be done. I talked to him a bit, he was really friendly, and I even told him he reminded me of the wrestler Edge. I dunno, maybe it was his style and fun attitude, lol. Sheriff: This guy really brought to my attention that I would seem like I'm coming on too strong. He helped me seem more playful and helped a bit with my rapport skills as well. I never would've guessed he was from Thailand, the same county that invented kickboxing! Thanks for the remarks Sheriff. Soul: Right when I first came to the superconference, Soul saw me sitting down, recognized me, and came and talked with me. We meet at a lair meeting about two months ago and would talk online as well. What I love about this guy is how humble he becomes with us and never takes time off to help any of us. His daygame strategies is the reason why my success with daygame is great! I talked to him a lot during the conference, and he thanked me for the advise I gave him about staying humble when the conference ended. Never change Soul, I'd love to hang out with you one day. Tenmagnet: He gave us good advise on how we should tell our stories and was open to any questions we had. I even told him my story and I remember he told me that I should never make up my story, but take a real one and retell it. Thanks Tenmagnet. The Don: The Don was a great guy and really helped us with dates in the speech he had the third day. He answered all my questions and made sure I understood. Afterward, he even talked to me a bit about where I live and how my game is. I told him about the routine I sent him, and I was surprised he remembered that subject later when we talked again. I told him I remembered him from the Dr. Phil show, and he even told me that people said that it "looked" like his mother dressed him. Great guy to talk with, hope to see him again! Final Notes
I had a lot of fun and thought this whole superconference was genius! Especially the was the rooms were set up. The only thing I might've thought could've been better was having demonstrations in both rooms. However, it was a great! I had lots of fun! Thanks to all!
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10-22-2008, 09:49 PM
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| | | Superconference 2008 Review!
Had an awesome time at the Superconference, and thought I'd give a recap for those who couldn't be there. My brain is still on overload as Im trying to sort out all the knowledge that was handed down by the Love Systems instructors.
They had a really cool format where you could basically choose your own schedule. The upstairs auditorium was dedicated to seminars, which was one speaker after another with 3 breaks throughout the day. Each speaker would discuss a different topic (ie Approach Anxiety. Routines, Day Game, Qualification, 10 Min. lays, Female Psych, etc...)
The side room and downstairs room were dedicated to group exercises, where the instructors would go over a certain aspect of game, and then coach you on it and give you instant feedback (teasing and bantering, storytelling, frame control, etc).
I decided to spend most of my time in the exercise rooms (like I said you had the choice of either being in there or upstairs hearing the seminars) because I loved the personalized attention from the coaches and felt I'd get the most out of my time there.
After an introductory speech from Savoy, I went with some of the guys in the crew to the exercise room... Cajun: Body Language
He discussed the importance of locking in, and getting into a comfortable position. He gave a great example of locking in at a club in a way where the girl is facing you as you lean against the wall, as to divert her attention from potential distractions in the club.
He went over crucial mistakes guys make like hands in pockets, slouching and poor presentation. Make the gestures slow and drawn out; deliberate. Every movement should have a reason.
We did some exercises with the coaches and I learned alot about how to best maximize working with what I have. Tenmagnet: StoryTelling
He stressed the need for being a character in your story; playing the foil and the hero. Someone compelling that you wanna root for. It's ok to be foolish sometimes, and stories about mistaken identity are gold. It's also key to imply certain things about yourself, leaving her to fill in the gaps.
He asked if anyone wanted to tell a story for the class, and I decided to speak up and tell one. I talked about a time up in Washington when I was working at a candy store and saved my pot smoking friends from a deranged tatooed gangbanger with a case of gangreene looming...I got an awesome response from the crowd, and the instructors thought it was well told except:
-I went too long with it.
-Told some unessesary details
-Needed to throw in more of the 5 senses for relation maximization. Routines
Routines were disected and examined. We built our own routine stacks, and learned the following:
-Must appeal to the emotions and mind
-Must pump state throughout and build intrigue
-If things get too logical, go straight to state based material.
We built routine cheat sheets, based on the following:
-2 openers for direct, indirect and situational approaches.
-2 state based routines
-Learn 5 things you want in a girl (non-physical)
-Learn 5 things you DONT want in a girl.
-Find out if she has the qualities you're ideally looking for
While in your set and running routines, a good way to check to see if you have attraction is by squeezing her hand and see if you get a squeeze response back.
We learned about State Based routines, such as role playing. stripper name game, mouse race, and other awesome little state pumpers.
Comfort and Intrigue based routines were examined, including cold reads with justifications thrown in for good measure. Bantering-Teasing-Disqualification
This one was one of my favorites. The instructors went over watching out for trigger words which can be used to splinter the conversation in different directions. Misinterpretaion, and over exageration methods were discussed, along with a group exercise.
Instructor Kisser would give us a line pretending he was the girl, and we'd have to follow it up. He said he was from Russia, and I had a few comebacks for that including admiration for Gorbechev's birthmark, the musical stylings of WWF superstar Nicoli Volkoff, the Russian arms-crossed-on-chest dance, and the availability of bread without waiting in line back at my apartment.
We learned to look out for "constant words", which you find repeated allowing you to draw something out of it. You must give her stuff to draw out from you as well. AMOG's/Shit Tests
Key points:
1. Be friendly to them
2. Ignore them if they are dicks; act as if they dont exist.
3. Kill with kindness. Make them appear to be the reative one. The first person to appear intimidated loses.
Always try to diffuse the situation if it gets viloent by being friendly. No vilonce is ever worth it, sometimes best to know when to pick your battles and walk away. No shame in that.
Take shit tests as IOI's...she wouldnt even be bothering with you if she wasnt at least interested. Take her negs as a compliment.
Classy comebacks were thrown out, and reframing conversations.
I did spend some time towards the end of the 3 days in the seminar room where I caught probably one of the best talks I ever heard... Savoy on Female Pyschology.
He went over her thought processes, and what types of justifications she needs to make in order to follow her groups norms and standards of behavior. Ive been to alot of seminars, but this speech in particular had me intrigued. It helped answer alot of things I had been questioning from my past with relations of yesteryear. Brad P went over getting 10 Minute Lays, and like all BradP speeches, this one was full of information that just wanted to make you get out of your seat and do a bathroom pull. Truly inspirational stuff.
Speer went over his model of attraction, and came off like a true pro. he is very knowledgable about his job, and you can tell he loves every thing about it. I had the chance to speak with him outside and had a smoke; very approachable and down to earth guy. I know a few people who have taken his bootcamps and have ended up with some amazing results. Braddock was also awesome. He has a way of breaking everything down in a way which becomes relatable no matter at what level in your game you might think youre at. I remcommend you guys check out the MM Interview Series where he and Mr M discuss 9-10 Game. Looking forward to his lair talk with the Los Angeles Orange county Lair in December.
I also wanted to give props to The Don, Sinn, Moxie, 5, FADER, my buddy LondonSoul and especially Big Business who was a major help to me and really had me fine tune my approach to the subtlest nuance.
Again, I had a great time and recommend everyone check it out next year.
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10-22-2008, 10:51 PM
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| | | Super Conference mini Review! Okay, work called, so I had to sneak away and catch at least a few hours worth of the festivities.
I said hello to Savoy, and proceeded to hook up with miaddict. I caught Fader's seminar on "Qualification", it was BADASS. Even though I'm in an LTR, when I get over to New York--I'm taking a bootcamp from him just to keep me frosty!
After that, we went in to the "comfort" breakthrough session with Prestige featuring Fader. Again, this one was also badass and was a great compliment to the qualification seminar before it. Awesome double header, IMO.
After that, Brad P's Fashion tips seminar. Brad P is a very dynamic speaker, if he ever decides to quit PUA he's got a great career in motivational speaking. Brad was on fire.
Finally, for me that is, Soul on daygame! He clarified a lot of issues as to why men don't hit on women during the day, variables, etc... He broke it down in an easy to understand "blunt" fashion.
Like I said, worked called, so I split.
It was a magical couple of hours, though. | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
10-23-2008, 06:06 PM
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| | | What can I say?
I mean... the Super Conference offered way more than I thought, I mean, it was way better than I had anticipated, even having read all of what was posted on the site. I thought it was going to be a really fun and educational weekend... it turned out to be one of the funnest and coolest (educational as well) weekends I've ever had, it was really awesome.
I really enjoyed the super conference and am confident I got the most out of the lectures and workshops. Every sinfle instructor that took the stage or got to be in charge of the workout room was very knowledgeable and they all took as much time as needed to answer all the questions they were being asked. I took as many notes as I could and tried to attend to as many relevant lectures and workshops as I could and I can honestly say this is NOT the last conference I'm attending.
I am definitely pumped up and really motivated to improve all aspects of my game, the super conference was awesome, I met a lot of really cool guys and got to hang out with some of the best instructors in the world, what more can I ask for?
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10-24-2008, 03:38 AM
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| | | Ok guys, here's a review from the superconference. Savoy had a great talk on the new Lovesystems Model, pretty bad ass, i can see the pieces merging together in my life. Mr. M was a great guy, some day I'll aspire to be good, maybe better than him  , but he's to show that even an asian guy can pick up any girl. He also did a great talk on Advance attraction, i really loved that.
Went to Cajun question game, was so interesting it was revealed, a game that has been around but it's underused.
Moxie had a great talk in getting in state, interesting information, fun exercise he did to the few people where they ridiculously role-play an animal to get in state.
Fadar did a great talk about qualification, now there's alot of myth clouded in my mind on that topic but he really steam rolled it out. Soul had a great talk in deep rapport, why most guys have trouble in rapport, awesome talk. | 
10-24-2008, 07:15 PM
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| | | The Super Conference in LA was AMAZING! I took a bootcamp at this Super Conference, so I had the SC seminars during the day and at night I went out with some instructors.
I went to the last Super Conference in Vegas earlier this year so I had high expectations. This SC was better than the last one. This time you also had 2 sessions running at the same time, but now you could work a lot more with the instructors on a wide variety of topics such as opening and transitioning, handling amogs and tests, body language, and many more. That way I worked with a lot of different instructors. I picked up different stuff from every instructor and that to me is what's so great about the Love Systems Super Conferences: you get to work with who you want. They are all good, but have different styles and strengths/weaknesses. One instructor might be an expert on SNLs while the other is better at social circle game. Whatever you want, LS has instructors that are experts on different areas and you can just walk up to them and ask them whatever you need to know.
I never had the idea that the instructors "were better" than the attendees. My impression of them was they were genuine in helping people and were just like "us". At the last SC, it was a bit more chaotic because the rooms were far apart. That way it was hard catching instructors, but this time the rooms were right next to each other. That was perfect for finding instructors you wanted to talk to. After every session you could always talk to the speaker(s) and ask very specific questions. Unless instructors were in a hurry, you could always grab their attention and get some personalized feedback.
This also helped a lot of what I disliked at the last Super Conference. People would continually ask very specific/tailored questions on their own situation that was of little use to the room. This time, since all the instructors were easily accessible, those questions were avoided in the room and were done in private with the instructors, so time was saved for some better "general" questions everyone could use and more time for practice.
Also what I picked up was that LS speakers were trying to make the presentations in the main room more interactive by involving the audience. I did not see it much if at all at the last SC.
This time we all got a binder with a notepad so we could take notes. Much better than the last SC and definitely gave a more professional twist to this conference. BTW: The sales people were very nice too. They're not all over you trying to sell anything to you. If you we're interested in services, like 1on1 or seminars, they were gladly trying to help you out. Bootcamp
Where I really got my money's worth was the bootcamp (infield portion). For someone who has been doing this for about 10 months and who went to the last SC, I had a lot of theory in my head already. But I never had professionals give me feedback on my game, and guide me to take my game to the next level.
The first night I went out with Braddock and Biskit. I've met Braddock the first time in Vegas at the SC, and I believe he wasn't a lead instructor then, but his knowledge is unreal. You can pick his brain for hours and he'll cite different books for you to back up statements without any hesitation. Also, you can tell that he's really passionate about teaching game. Braddock gave me really good feedback, like super good feedback. He winged me in one set and saw me do several sets, but he said what I do well and pinpointed what my sticking points are. He also told me how I can fix them.
I didn't know much about Biskit, it was my first time meeting him. I didn't know anything about him, but let that not distract you. The first night I saw him doing demos and that guy knows what he is doing. Does he have game? Yes sir! It's nothing flashy that might awe new students. His sets are really solid and he break it down step-by-step for you. In the field he pushed me so I would always be in set and not just stand around talking to other students and instructors. Biskit is very positive and will give you the right feedback at the right time. My sessions with him were good, and he would always willing to help me out. Absolutely great guy to work with.
The second night I went out with Cajun and Kisser. I've met both of them before, Cajun at the Vegas SC and Kisser outside of a club during an LA BC. When you meet Kisser, you can tell he's always positive. I'm almost 100% that his brain chemicals are different. This guy exudes positivity to the nth degree, and those are the kind of people you want to work with. He's the perfect example of nice guys who can get girls, if you just know the Love Systems techniques and tactics. If you see him infield, you'll see "nice guy game" in action! Cajun on the other hand is the bad boy of the team. He has this James Bond vibe around him. He might be short, but his aura screams "I'm sexy and trouble". If you need anything on body language, you can talk to him about that. He did several sets with me and I saw him do some sets himself. He's a lead instructor for a good reason: he can run solid game, break it down for you, and give you good feedback. Cajun told me similar stuff that Braddock gave me and gave another set of solutions.
Now that I had several instructors tell me almost the exact same thing, I truely know what I should work on. Self-diagnosis is hard and not always accurate. By having several instructors tell me what my sticking points are and how to solve them, this is really what you pay for. I'd highly suggest for everyone to get a BC, it's worth the money. I'm college student and tight on money, but investment was totally worth it. It totally opened my reality on what I can do now and in the future. I've posted two field reports of my nights and this bootcamp crushed two sticking points. The BC definitely cut my learning curve by several months up to maybe a year, because it eliminated two sticking points and now I know what weaknesses I have in my game. With that I also have exercises and notes on how to improve my success with women. TAKE A BOOTCAMP!!!! | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? |
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10-25-2008, 07:53 AM
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| | | Here's my review of the LA Superconference, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that's been reading these posts, that the amount of access attendees have to a variety of instructors, and the combination of knowledge they have, and their willingness to share it is something that simply must be seen to be believed.
Like some other folks, I also went to the Vegas SC, and I spent most of my time there in the main room listening to presentations. This time around I spent about 50% of my time in the exercise breakout rooms, and benefitted from the direct interaction with the instructors as they coached us on various things, like storytelling, body language, kino escalation, and handling AMOGs. While it's great to hear someone talk about it, seeing the instructors do it, answer questions, and then watch and evaluate as the students did it was a great learning process.
The presentations in the main room were also cool, and most were either similar topics to those at the previous SC, but with updated information, or new topics or guest speakers. Almost without exception each of the presenters showed both a real depth of knowledge and experience about the subject matter, and a genuine passion for sharing this with the attendees and seeing it benefit them.
If you come to one of these or a bootcamp, be sure to be prepared to take a lot of notes, in a quick and organized fashion. Some folks use a notepad to write them, and others will type them into a computer. Either way, when the instructors are in their groove, the information is flowing. If knowledge is water, think of it as trying to drink from a firehose. Most folks won't be able to retain more than a fraction of it, without some sort of note taking process. Even though I've been studying and applying this stuff for about a year, there's still plenty of new insights to be gained from attending, as well as retouching on foundational stuff, and the occasional "lightbulb over head" moment, when the clouds part and you see something you didn't see before. How much is a "breakthrough" worth to you?
Once again, I'm really glad that I decided to attend, and also to recognize and appreciate the effort and contributions of all of the folks who make the SC happen. | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
11-02-2008, 01:23 PM
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| | | Good afternoon, Gentlemen.
I am Monk. Anyone who was at SC and remembers the skinny chrome-domed Asian guy in the white hat, that was me. (Apparently I looked like Style, and was called that jokingly more than once and at one point, actually mistaken for him.)
The following is my first Lounge forum journal entry. Miaddict read it and told me to repost it here as a review of the Superconference. Enjoy!
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"Hey guys! Pirates or Vampires?" That was my opener this weekend going out with the Lovesystems approach coaches at this year's Los Angeles Superconference. "My friends, who I have to get back to in just a second, throw these theme costume parties, and for the next one, We can't decide between pirates . . ." transition, begin disqualifying . . .
I chose this opener because it was congruent. My friends actually do throw theme costume parties. So I laughed Friday morning at the Beverly Garland hotel in Hollywood, when I turned the corner and got my 1st physical glimpse at "The Community". It looked like a theme costume party. "Asshole guy who always manages to bang the girl you like". It felt like the guys were in costume because there was something about their personalities that made the flashy outfits incongruent: They weren't assholes.
But then, at least with the instructors and advanced students you realize as you talk to them, they are for real. They exhibited every alpha male trait except the asshole vibe. Then you think about it some more - not all the alpha's you've met in life were jerks, especially if you've earned their respect. This usually requires that you BE another alpha. But then you realize what these guys all share - None of them are born alphas. They all had a hard road to get there. And the only difference between them and us was the knowledge they had acquired and felt karmically indebted to pass on to us. They weren't treating us like betas - we were neophyte alphas. Suddenly, even us noobs didn't feel so incongruous with our outfits. We weren't nerds in "cool guy" costumes - we were actual cool guys that perhaps just needed to grow into those outfits a little.
As I began talking to other attendees, I realized the lengths community members were willing to go to to attend this event. I met guys from all over CA, from the east coast, and instructors from London, Sweden, Paris, Thailand and other exotic locales. Savoy gave the opening speech. His nice-guy voice is offset by his imposing height and the knowledge that here in alpha- boot camp, he is the "Alpha-alpha". "How many guys here didn't get anywhere with girls in high school?" About 2/3rds of the room raises their hands. "Keep your hands up if you didn't get anywhere with girls in college." About half the hands go down. "Keep your hand up if your college newspaper actually published a story about how unsuccessful you were with women." The rest of the hands go down. Savoy's hand is still up. Alpha-alpha started at the literal bottom of his extended social circle. Before he was THE shit, he WAS shit. Shittier, apparently, then every romantically challenged guy in the room. Our confidence continued to build. These guys did it. Years ago, when there was no real forum, community or structure. We had three days of structured classes, exercises, and in-field time with these masters, drawing on their experience and knowledge. We couldn't lose.
I was familiar with some of the instructors through the CD interview/lecture series, but I didn't have faces to go with the names until Friday. Meeting them was like that scene in " Goodfellas" where the camera panned around the room and introduced us to all of the gang's high luminary figures : "...And Johnny Two-times. We called him that because he liked say everything twice..." Savoy, Tenmagnet, The Don, Moxie, Brad P., and Braddock were all names I knew and now guys I've met. (conspicuously absent were Sinn, Future, and of course, Mystery.) Some of them looked exactly like you'd expect. Brad P was impressively flashy and imparted that he could, within reason, makes us that flashy and be congruent with it. He does, however, explain how some guys just can't and shouldn't do flashy. When you see The Don and Moxie, they are the last thing you'd expect one of these guys to look like but they still manage to pimp it in relatively conservative looks that works for them.
Seeing everyone speak on stage was also amazing. The material continues to evolve - it's not dating science, it's dating TECHNOLOGY. It's not just knowledge these guys are acquiring, it's applications that they keep developing and experimenting with.
All the speakers were compelling and enaging. Braddock and Mr. M's lectures on brain biology and the new "trigger word" routine system were amazing. Braddock came across as a PUA-pit bull, capable of applying subtlety and finesse when necessary, but gleefully eschewing it when not. Mr M had that zen samurai thing going. (He kind of sounds like George Takei) Brad P. looked like a throwback to the days when punk rock was really punk. There was an ease and comfort to his demeanor - he all but had "I don't give a fuck" tattooed to his forehead (Because that would be too try-hard) But then he imparted how much blood sweat and tears he had to go through to get himself to that place. He applied his knowledge of sports training to game training (he was on a champion NCAA basketball team in college) and hounded himself the way his psycho coach did back in school.
Carlos Xuna gave a fascinating lecture on how Inner Game and success in life lead to and depend on each other. Savoy's talk on female psychology crystalized the foundation principles
underlying all of the material.
Dr. Paul gave a deeply insightful presentation on the emasculation of society, and how nothing makes you more attractive than accepting, developing, and actualizing your true masculinity.
But by far, the most affecting speaker was Soul. Soul is the Shaolin Master
of game. He seems to have a near-monastic devotion to the art. Soul may indeed be God's Gift to Women. A destiny he humbly accepts and strives to fulfill with every fiber of his being. Soul doesn't have game, he IS game. Like the best martial artists, he has transcended technique, acting now by complete instinct alone, honed to such an edge as to invent necessary technique on the spot, with no conscious thought or effort involved. He is capable of doing what game tells you is completely wrong - walking right up to a woman and telling her she's the most amazing thing he's ever seen. Because with him it's not a line. He has a love, for himself, for humankind as a whole and for women specifically that is so deep and so profound, that women sense it know he's for real.
So that's what the daylight hours gave us. The evening however, gave us an opportunity to apply what we had learned. And that was an adventure on an entirely new level.
I went to Ritual on Vine with instructors Sherrif, Keychain, and Dahunter. Dr. Yen showed up without even knowing we'd be there so we got a bonus instructor. "We" being myself and only one other student, Dancemaster. With four instructors present, we felt invincible. Sheriff made a point of finding me early on in the day and introducing himself, so I'd already talked to him a little. His ability to build confidence was amazing. Keychain has a quiet, gentle calm that is infectious. It worked to keep me cool and I watched him work it on a little Asian hottie in a black dress later that night. Dahunter also seemed to have ice water in his veins. He had that nonreactive thing so down. And Dr Yen, first of all, looks cool as hell. He was an A+, class act, put together with care and flair from top to bottom. Then he told me that I looked cool. He reassured me by imparting that I have a lot of advantages right here at the starting gate. That I've obviously done my homework and have the good fortune of being fairly high value to begin with. With these guys there, I had no fear. Four instructors. Badasses all. Approaching sets with these guys here was like standing up to a bully when you have four of your toughest friends backing you up. I only remember one moment of doubt. I remember thinking "What if this feeling of invincibility goes away? What if I start thinking about this too much and psych myself out?" The thought past and I don't think I had another doubt all night.
We ate first and discussed strategy over dinner. After the bill was paid, and the place starting filling in, Sheriff loaded me up like a round in his pearl handled Colt.45 - With a hand on my shoulder, his resonant alpha male voice becoming my own resonant inner voice, He aimed me at about 7-8 asian girls to my right and said, "Big set by the pillar, open with X, use the Y routine and lock in on that stool. Go!" - and fired me off. The Sheriff's bullet had been let loose. There was no way I was going to miss. I was invincible. I was James Bond, I was Steve McQueen, I was Bruce Fucking Lee! I fearlessly reached out to touch the nearest one and use my opener - and before I could . . . they opened me! One of the girls stuck a camera in my face and asked me to photograph them. After I snapped off a couple shots, I used the opener, transitioned well and then got sucked into normal conversation and couldn't even think about logistics. But I had fun, they had fun, it was a great first approach. And then the next four sets opened with no problems. By the time I actually met any resistance to opening I'd already opened five sets. I was 5 and 1. And that was the worst that could happen? WTF! GIMMIE MORE!
I opened twelve sets in all that night. It was hard to keep focus beyond transitioning. I struggled to get any attraction material going. I think I managed one decent neg all night, but apparently that was all I needed. I came back to that set before the end of the night and number closed a petite model.
This is EXHAUSTING! At 10:30, I was so hyper that it was an effort to control my energy level to keep from looking like I was nervous. (I wasn't nervous, I was excited and pumped!) By 1 AM, I was fading in and out of consciousness in set. I drove home and passed out.
The second night did not start out so well. We went to Busby's about a dozen strong, pretty even split of instructor to student ratio. There were less sets and they were harder to open. I opened the same set twice by mistake. Every time I saw a good set one of our guys was already in it. We got some wing practice. Still, sets did open and I did make some progress despite not getting a number all night. With the help of Biskit, The Don, Big Business, Braddock, and others, I managed to interact and I was better at it by the end of the evening than I was at the beginning. At 1 AM we decided to try another club nearby. As we were exiting, there were some girls out front handing out passes to a strip club. Several of the other students and I, realizing we had about half a dozen or so instructors with us decided we wanted to see a demo of some stripper game. The instructors were very encouraging about the idea but most of them had to go back to hotel and sleep as many of them were giving lectures the next day. But there were one or two of them that said "Let's see how the night goes."
The second club was Portal and it was a slightly easier room. I managed to open a couple sets that didn't really lead anywhere and then they closed after about 20 minutes. By then the rest of the instructors were also unable to continue, but Dancemaster and another student, Sheikh and I still had momentum and wanted to game some more. So The Don and Braddock gave us the 30-second crash course in stripper game. The Don gave us the "pretend you're really inexperienced with women in a way she knows your kidding" routine that worked very well for one of the other students. Braddock told me to tell the dancers that I had dated a stripper and was "past all this", desensitized to their faked interest, but if she wanted to shed her stripper personality and talk to me like a normal person, I wouldn't mind. I connected with this approach because I was congruent with it - I did have an ex who worked as a dancer and I had spent enough time in these places that I could pull of that routine convincingly.
The strip club sucked. At 2 AM on a saturday night there were maybe two other chodes in the place and perhaps 10 girls waiting for their shift to end. Most of the girls were in the 6-8 range, there were like two 9's and at least one 5. Early on, this 8 walked up and started trying to work me.
I ran Braddock's line and she dropped (Most of) her stripper persona almost immediately. (I don't even remember what her dancer name is.) The only attraction switch I needed was "You're just being nice to me because you want my money." She qualified herself the entire time trying to convince me she was being genuine. But she kept pushing for the dance. I wasn't really sure where to go with this and I wanted to talk to one of the hotter girls, so I said WTF and bought a dance, just to get rid of her.
She gave me a convincing enough performance of enjoying the dance and pushed for a second one. I told her if she came and ate with us afterward I'd get a second dance and she agreed.
She spent the rest of her shift in my lap.
Sheikh had one on his lap pretty much the whole night. He ran the Don's "I'm a virgin" routine and got a Facebook close off her.
When the place closed, we went to the bounce location and my girl met us there with one of the other dancers who was her ride. They came to tell us they had decided to just go home and sleep, but that she really wanted to see me later. She pretty much begged me to call her and then she kiss closed me.
Sunday, I don't remember how many times I told that story. The instructors were impressed and proud. Many did a cartoon take upon hearing the student on his second night of cold approach number-closed a stripper. The look on 5.0's face was priceless. Kevyn did a pretty good one two. I was exhausted Sunday. Before the last few lectures I really wanted to just go home and pass out. A second wind did take however, and I enjoyed the last few talks.
At registration, we were each given fake money to tip instructors who we thought we got good instruction from. I feel bad, I was so overwhelmed and cramming my head with so much information and sleep-deprived, and high on cold approach adrenaline, I just figured that I'd tip everyone when it was over. What I didn't know is that they were going to count all the money before the end of the conference and let us know who won. So I didn't manage to tip anyone except for Prestige who did some great drills with me. Anyway, they announced the winner, and despite the dozens of amazing presentations and the staggering amount of raw, oozing charisma on display, it was still no surprise that everyone's favorite was Soul.
As I was saying my goodbyes, one of the last things I took away was an exchange between 5.0 and Kevyn. I think Kevyn remembered something Braddock had said earlier - "We just made you kids better looking!" the three of us laughed hysterically. 5.0 got this wistful look in his face. "God, before this - It would have just been whatever I'd had to have settled for . . ." There was such a look of relief on his face. The condition of not being able to pick and choose women he slept with was for him - an old, painful memory. Yeah, I can't wait until I'm there.
This is the thing about that last little interaction I had. Those were two of the best looking guys there. I mean if they just stood in one place and smiled, SOMEBODY would fuck them. Apparently, they needed this too. As much as geekiest looking dork there. But we were all in this together. The rest of my life had begun. And I knew that from now on, it would be profoundly different.
I drove home and passed out. I woke up the next morning and literally shouted with excitement. That was the best weekend ever. I got four phone numbers! I have some basic skillz! And I made friends for whom I have a deep love and an incalculable debt (despite the rather sizeable coin we all shelled out).
So now it's Thursday. I haven't gone sarging again yet. I'm already feeling my momentum fade. I'm going Saturday night. Hell or high water. I do have a day 2 with that stripper Monday night. The model hasn't called back. I had so much attraction from her! I got some qualification! I didn't get any comfort in the club. Hey, gimmie a break, it was my first night!
So, for anyone reading this in the Los Angeles area - I need wingmen! I have several awesome pivots, but scant guy friends that are both single and socially capable, all my cool guy friends are girlfriended or married, all my single friends are dorks. I'm going to try to get out 2-3 nights a week, plus I want to do some day game and some good day 2 locations on weekends. Get in contact with me and let me know.
Everyone. Thank you. My life is different. Fears and doubts I've had since adolescence are gone, perhaps forever. My job was more fun this week. Getting up in the morning was easier. I still laugh spontaneously when I think too much about the weekend. I have work to do. I have a long way to go. But I'm going to have so much fun getting there.
My fire is strong, but it needs discipline and control. This will be my mantra. Game will be my religion. My devotion to it will be all emcompassing. I humbly present myself to you as:
Monk | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | Learn more on your day game | | 
11-02-2008, 06:04 PM
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| | | I'm pumped again... Hey Monk... great review bro, I know how it felt as well, after the Super Conference I've been so pumped and it helped me a lot as well, though I have had some advantages winging for and sarging with a couple of guys that are more advanced than me since going to the SC.
However, reading your post pumped me even more since it reminded me again of everything I learned there and how it felt finally having so muchs stuff "click" while listening to guys like Fader, Braddock & Mr. M, Sheriff, Soul, Savoy, The Don, Brad P. and all of the other guys who talked.
I hope that this experience has been as motivational to everyone that attended as it was to me, I am so happy I did not miss it.
__________________ This is My Journey...  I was at the super conference... were you? 
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11-08-2008, 04:22 AM
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| | | I would like to take a moment and thank all the instructors and staff that made this event possible. I really had quite a bit of fun, but more importantly conquered some sticking points. Some sticking points i knew of and others i discovered while i was there. It was also fantastic to put faces to all the names of the instructors and to get a true sense of all their different and unique personalities. A special thanks out to Soul who was able to show me how to add a stronger delivery to the stories of my life! I live quite an interesting life with many travels and adventures. I'm a romatic at heart and love to tell my life stories as opposed to using others material. I believe this is what makes us all unique. During a bootcamp I had with Fader, he stated that when he was gaming it was like being in the movie "the Matrix". I understood what he meant, but had not experienced that perception. With everything I was able to bring together from the superconference and some further self-study, it just happened! A kind of epiphany! It all just suddenly clicked. A week after I returned, it just started raining women. Not that I ever had a difficult time with women, I just knew that I could always do better! I am all about constant improvement! My day game has exploded! I much perfer day game over clubs. Thank you again Soul! This past week I was at a large wine party(500+) with a very confident, intelligent, beautiful woman that I had been push-pulling all week building the excitement. While I was moving around the venue I finally experienced that matrix like perception and I realized everywhere I turned it seemed as if all women were taking notice and I was engaging all their smiles! The best compliment came from the lady I was with. Towards the end of the evening she stated, "I've never seen anything like this!" Me; "Like what gorgeous?" Her; " Just about every woman we walked past has eye fucked you tonite!" "You could have any woman here at this party that you wanted." Me; I know, so appreciate the time you spend with me. I would just like to thank everyone again for all their efforts to make the superconference possible and if you have the chance to go, I highly recommend that you do! | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | Learn more on your day game | |  | | | Tags | life changing, los angeles, review_braddock, review_cajun, review_fader, review_keychain, review_savoy, review_sheriff, review_soul, review_tenmagnet, review_thedon, superconference, thank you  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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