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baxtroker · #1 08-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Hey guys, what's up? I'll make this short and sweet. This past weekend I had the oportunity to go to the playboy bootcamp. I was a little leary about spending the money at first b/c I don't make that much but after going to it all my doubts were erased. I know now that I can do this stuff. The instructors were great and more importantly they were the real deal. Savoy broke girls down logically which I've been trying without success to do my whole life, then he backed it up infield. Braddock and Prestige pushed me and gave me the courage in the field to go for it. I recommend anyone on the fence about whether to take a bootcamp or not to just go for it. Like I told Mike Long when he asked me my reason for signing up for the playboy bootcamp I told him 'If not now, when?'

Zephyr1 · #2 08-22-2008, 07:03 PM

Short of the Long:

Teacher (Savoy) : High skills in the field, very impressive; skills as a teacher, and knowledge of women. Oh, yeah, the stories kill.

Playboy mansion : Lucky Hef, it was amazing. Who would think that a couple hundred girls in lingerie would be fun. That's right... Everyone...

Instructors : Very knowledgeable, helpful, all around good guys.

Long of the Long:

I'll right, I've been reading some material, basically as reference, because, "Hey, I do fine out there". I've been around for a long time (older guy), I've seen a lot, done a lot. To the average guy, I've lived, and I'm still living well. Why did I sign up: I just want to go to the mansion. Yeah, I'll listen at the seminar, I'll go out with these guys, and in the mean time, I'll show them what I can do.

I've never considered myself a PUA, but at the very least, a natural. And in a way, MAYBE. I'm a funny guy, and can always entertain the ladies. So... it seems that's where it stops. I think it's a great night, if I mess with a lot of women, and keep them laughing/entertained. Don't get me wrong, I still think this is cool, but why not go deeper.

So, first day of class, it seems no one listened to the invitation, and all students were basically first time seminar attendees. This was supposed to be an advanced boot camp, and I almost didn't show up because of this, but in the end, I wanted to go to the mansion.

Savoy, had a tough job to get first-timers ready for the prelimary party, no less for game at the mansion. He flew through the beginning seminar material, throwing in great stories, and my favorite line "not that this has ever happened". I'm a science guy, this material, even though we're talking about pick-up, had a calculated/scientific feel to it, and can be proven. Which it was.

We went out: my move, get to the bar. Turned around, the instructors all in sets. I didn't even get my drink yet. I winged with a few of the other students, throwing around material like I knew it, I didn't. I ended up having a great time. Two beautiful girls, one on each arm, one the angel, one the devil, they were telling me to... devil: "do it", and angel: "don't do it", every time we approached another set and engaged in somewhat unusual/sexual behavior. Well, as I said, I entertained.

I ended up recruiting some guy at the bar to wing me as I did what I usually do, intercept sets at the bar and entertain. Had a great time, but due to my own fault. Did not get the experience of watching the instructors as I intended to do. Damn alcohol. Old days: success. Now: Entertained with out much depth, much to learn.

The next day, Savoy could now teach the curriculum as listed, as we were "up to speed", sure we were. Some of the guys had some good stories about the previous night. Good for them, they hung out with the instructors. That class, I was entirely impressed by the teaching style, and knowledge of Savoy. I didn't think it was going to be this deep, and well presented. I looked forward to all the tangents taken, which would include a "hypothetical situation", or not so hypothetical, to illustrate a point. I could hear myself say "I knew that", or "I tell guys that!", but didn't really explore the concept in as much depth that I was hearing it and would just smile knowing, "this guy really knows...".

The playboy mansion itself, lived up to all hype and preconceived notions, that I ever had, for the exception of the Grotto, it was not crazy, but mellow, and just plain hot (temperature). This is probably due to the fact that we were at a charity event, rather than the famed Halloween or MidSummer's Party. The charity event was breast cancer, and I fully support breasts (don't know what that has to do with anything, just wanted to say that). Aside from that, I was just glad to see a couple hundred hot girls in lingerie or some of them nothing on. Oh, yeah, and we can game every one of them.

Unfortunately, I go into entertainment mode for the exception of one goal I had. Frame them... where ever they want to take your thread, frame them YOUR way... and that, I did... At one point, I made, with my fingers, a "frame" (square) around this girl's face, she asked what I was doing, I told her, "I was framing her". She had the gall to try to re-direct my conversation, imagine that!

Again, I needed to watch the pros, but went my own way, having a great time, but would have learned so much more, if I could focus on the game, rather than the set of double D's that passed me every five seconds. Ok, so it wasn't so bad...

I have to give special props to Braddock, he was chatting up this beautiful asian target, breasts hanging out, but whose weren't, she was loving him. I leaned over and asked him to help this one guy, and he jumped up, said "I'm here for you guys", and went in to help. At home, you would be cursed for interfering like that, he WAS there for this guy, and all of us.

My read on the whole experience. Worth it.

KINGOFTEXAS · #3 08-27-2008, 11:54 PM

I decided to attend this for 2 reasons.

1. Savoy was teaching the event.
2. I would get to go to the Mansion.

I have to tell you even when you are good at this stuff...

Sometimes you just need a swift "kick in the ass" and I got that.

Savoy's direct no' bullshit approach is so simple that I found myself getting "antsy" in my seat and just waiting to spring out into the field and get going.

What I like about the Love Systems model is that it simplifies things to a level where you can "just do it"

The only way anyone exposed to this material in this fashion could fail is simple. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE LAZY! and just not do anything.

It's all there and worth every penny. You know so many people just sit by on the sidelines and make excuses. What I like about Savoy's game is it is relentless. He is driving the train of life and and ready to see the world and what's possible. He said it best. "You will be surprised what you can get away with and what you are capable of if you just do it.

The stories and all the funny anecdotes just reinforce the principle bottom line.

Get the girl. Take Her and she will love you for it!

On Sunday evening Savoy took me to a cool bar in LA during our one on one.

On the way he called up a model that was easily a "9" that he met in 5 minutes at The Mansion the night before,

He also invited 2 other girls he had slept with before to join us as well.
Hell why not! (you see why I like his style)

He got two of them making out and just kept pushing the envelope.

He could have easily pulled off another threesome but he left with the "9"

He looked like a lion in the field in Africa with his pride!

That's the way to live.

Just do it! You will be glad you did.

You only live once!

Braddock · #4 08-28-2008, 08:51 PM

Great BC! I tried to talk you guys into going to Saddle Ranch instead, but whatever.

5.0 · #5 08-29-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Braddock

Great BC! I tried to talk you guys into going to Saddle Ranch instead, but whatever.

Dont do it.. you'll just end up in the back of an LAPD squad car accused of using fraudulent bills... for 45mins while your mates just laugh at you...

...or is that just me?

-5.0

puatobe · #6 09-15-2008, 06:45 PM

So here is my report for the Playboy Mansion Advanced bootcamp. It’s a little long, but I figure if someone is considering spending thousands of dollars on a bootcamp, I might as well be as detailed as possible.

The reasons I signed up for the events were (in order of importance): the focus was on 9s and 10s, Savoy was teaching it, it's an advanced bootcamp, and I got to go to the playboy mansion. I can seem to attract 7s and 8s alright, but it’s the 9s and 10s that I really want and they seem to be tricky. It excited me to have a bootcamp focused on that area. I had read about Savoy before, and he is the real deal. He also went to my college and has a good business mind, so I wanted to learn from him. I deal in finance for a living, and I viewed this bootcamp not as an expense, but rather as an investment.

Friday was a basic review of the original model (approach, transition, attract, etc). Nothing new here, you can learn all that in Magic Bullets. But Friday was meant to be a review day, so that’s fine. The best part of the day was practicing openers on Savoy. He gave good feedback, and I would have liked more of this. The “drill” was over after we transitioned; it would have been cool if we practiced attraction as well. Friday night we go out.

I wrote up a field report for both Friday and Saturday if anyone’s interested, but they are pretty long so I didn’t include them here. I was basically talking to girls the whole time both nights. I got two numbers Friday night and a make-out Saturday night. I could have gotten farther physically with girls both nights, but I wanted to keep gaming and see if I could get better girls, so I said I had to go to the bathroom to basically ditch them. I felt bad since they were both cute girls and sweethearts, but I wanted to practice more.

Saturday Savoy revealed to us the new Love Systems Triad model. Practically no one has seen it before, we were the first, so that was cool. He is going to reveal it at the Super Conference, so I won’t go into much detail here about it. The new triad model is kind of a dichotomy. It is so simple and elegant, and it will help people remember what to do next. In a set and you don't know what to do next? Just follow the path to the center. Genius!

We covered a lot of topics during the seminar. A decent amount of the material I was familiar with already, but obviously I learned some new things. Savoy is a good teacher, and some of his stories are hilarious.

Are the instructors good in field? I’m sure they are, but to be honest, I didn’t really see them in action too much because I was kind of doing my own thing. I saw Savoy with a hot girl on his lap both nights, and he later said that he was able to do this within minutes of meeting them. Braddock was constantly doing mini-sets on Friday where he would open set after set and bring us in. That is a way to social-proof yourself to the club. There was a cool guy who worked in the Love Systems office who was there to help out (he wasn’t an instructor), and he f-closed a good-looking blonde on the grounds of the playboy mansion. Savoy bounced with a group of people back to his place Friday night and number closed a few girls over the weekend. I didn’t hear of anybody else hooking up; that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, it just means I didn’t hear about it.

As I said the main reason I signed up for the seminar was to find out how 9s and 10s should be gamed, and I assumed there would be different material for those girls. But it's weird, there wasn't much different material for 9s and 10s during the seminar. When I asked Savoy how is the model different for 9s and 10s as opposed to 7s, he said the new Triad model is specifically designed with 9s and 10s in mind. So I signed up for a seminar that focused on 9s and 10s, but they aren't treated that differently in the model. In a way that's empowering, in a way it's disappointing. But it is what it is. We did cover specific types of 9s and 10s though, such as strippers and porn stars, and those girls are treated differently than others. So in that respect I got what I came for.

There were three levels of the bootcamp, Silver, Gold, and Platinum. One of the main reasons to do a bootcamp is to get the feedback, and because I was seminar-only, I didn’t get much feedback. If you are of intermediate skill and want to get a lot of good individualized feedback, I would say go for a one-on-one training. I also didn’t get to see the instructors approach, which is my main regret, however that was my own fault. Savoy did a good job of giving out everyone’s cell phone numbers and the instructors were more than happy to let us watch. I was just busy with the girls I was gaming.

Since the bootcamp I have gone out a few times. I met a girl at a networking event and ended up bouncing with her and making out with her, had two girls feel my junk at the same time at a hotel bar in Miami, had two girls with boyfriends make out with each other so I could take a picture, kiss-closed two girls in the same night, had a girl in her mid-twenties give me the first bj of her life, number-closed a girl at the beach, did direct game on hotties during the day, etc... I have had success similar to this before the bootcamp, but I must say that I am having more frequent and consistent success after taking the bootcamp. I attribute this partly to the triad model, partly to just seeing how master PUAs act. After seeing some very good PUAs in action, I know I have the potential to do what they do. I am as good as they are in some areas, but I have a long way to go in other areas.

Bottom line: am I glad I did it? Absolutely.