Thread: Braddock Bootcamp - Miami FL, Dec 2007 (With Kisser & Rocker)

I don't think the iinstruction was as good as the student. You can't make Chicken Salad out of Chicken Sh!t...

It could be inferred (from the above) that the instruction was not that great or that it helped him develop, that is not what I am saying... Too many people think if you pay your fee, you are entitled to a result. In some things, this is correct. In the case of a BootCamp it is not necessarily the case. You (the Student) have to prepare before hand and work diligently toward your goal. Holidaze did all of this and got results. You can too. It takes a LOT OF WORK.

Holidaze has a big plus going for him. He is an entrepreneur which requires an ability to take Risks. He said approach is easy. For him it was (Big Balls), this is essential for Good Game. He chose to be Bold and whipped it out when all else failed. That took some balls. She could have laughed or run screaming out of the room. (I laugh as I picture her screaming - running out of the room)

I love it when I see someone kicking ass. The BJ was eclipsed by the sarge on HB10-Model. That sounded really good. I feel a little sorry for the Wing . Hope his Game has improved since that set.

I am puzzled by the Shit Test. I feel his answer was the answer tha vast majority of guys woulda used, including me. I have some other ideas, but why was she desirous of hearing that he wanted to make her one of his girls???

A 10 will initiate kino to re-validate herself and you say ($35 dollars for the touching please). I would like some feedback on why he was wrong and he should have validated her desirability. I thought about it all morning because I hope to have a Quality problem like that soon....

I was disappointed that BadBoy did so poorly in his sarge while in the U. S. I would not discount his Game on the one perfomance. My Game is very inconsistent. I do super one night and terrible the next. The problem is in re-building that strong Inner Game that naturally attracts women even without the DHVs. Being The Man is the DHV. Being The Man every day is not easy if you have stuff bugging you. TD mentions that in his development. Developing PUAs will always see their game go up and down with their mood. BadBoy is working in a culture that is different than what he is used to. This has to effect his game; therefore, I am not surprised that he had a bad day. He cannot afford very many of those...

For the Dude wanting Prosperity. Buy The Secret and watch/listen to it repeatedly and live it. It can help you to get there.

Great Boot Dude,

cya

SwingDude

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Thanks for the compliment on chicken salad vs chicken shit but I do want to clear one thing up.

The instruction was incredible. I was not the best student by far in the class. Face and Casanova were probably the class leaders. I didn't even get to really meet Casanova because he F-closed his warm up sets. That guy was on fire. Of course at the other end of the spectrum we had the invisible man who just disappeared after every seminar and refused to approach.

So yes how you apply the knowledge is important but the first step is to get in the game . This is an incredibly important part of every man's life and the knowledge you get is worth ten times the $3,000 you pay.

In the case of the shit test with the kino all I can say is it is more of a calibration issue than the "magic words". The problem was what I said landed wrong and I didn't recover properly. In 99.99% of all situations maybe saying "I don't want a girlfriend" would work. But when it doesn't you need to be keyed in enough to read her response. In my case the reaction was immediate and I floundered when I saw it. The only cure for that is more sets.

On a personal note. I am now back in my hometown. I have settled in with two girls. One is a HB9 and the other is an HB8.5 both their personalities are so cool it makes them HB12's in my book. I am dating them both but eventually I will probably need to narrow it to one. Not a bad problem to have considering where I was.

Finally, I don't think I gave enough credit to Braddock or talked about him enough in my review. More than anyone else I came in contact with during this journey, this guy changed my life.

I'm telling you find the next BC Braddock is teaching, poney up the cash, and change the rest of your life. Excuses are bullshit. Making yourself an attractive person extends to every area of your life. It can fundamentally change who you are as a person if you come at it from the right place.

Do this to make yourself better. Getting girls is just the byproduct of making these kinds of commitments and it all starts with the bootcamp .

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Oh, one more thing.

There is absolutely no comparison between the BJ close on the HB7 and the F-close at the Ritz.

One of my new girls left a magazine at my house yesterday. (One more problem I didn't anticipate. Girls mark their territory by hiding shit all over your place and car. Be careful if your multiple dating!) So the model was in her magazine. I knew she was hot but damn. Worst part about this is that it may end up being my best sarge ever 3 days out of BC and I really can't tell anyone outside of this anonymous forum.

So true... Being the Man with a plan who knows where he is going and how is going to get there is attractive to a woman or anyone else for that matter. That is what I get from your Post. I pity the Invisible Man. He should have done DDA ADV Tech CDs and Inner Game , along with some other stuff before he ponied up the BC. No instructor can make a Man of you in a weekend. It takes months of hard work to get your head straight and rid yourself of limiting beliefs. You cannot be a wimp or Wussie and get the girl...

I am pleased to hear about the HB8.5 and 9. I have a couple of the same that I am working on in addition to misc Chicks that I meet or socialize with.

I have to start working on my Attaction Material (A2) so I can better get them (9s) and be consistent. My DHVs are in me not my words. I am relying on projecting my presence and confidence. It works, I think the HB-8 I enjoyed last night was next to me as a result of my deliberate attempt to attract her to me (in lieu of me approaching ). I need to work on the words and convey value with some great stories. I did not get that worked out in the BC and still am not sure on how to best convey it. I got the Peacocking down. I did not do exactly what was recommended, but did something similar. The chicks are always checking me out on my "Look". Some of the AFCs also notice my efforts at peacocking. I am not sure how much you did in BC. Most of the guys showed up in AFC dress... I am about as handsome as Lovedrop or TD so they are interested in me on the "Look" not the looks. The peacocking is only half the "Look". The confidence I project is equal to or greater than the peacocking. I want to enhance my results and consistency and MM DHVs are the answer IMO.

I may do something (1 on 1 ) in the spring depending on a variety of factors. In the meantime, the DHVs and Story Telling need tweaked.

My next move will probably be to fix the DHV/AttractionMaterial void. I do fair without it, but fair is not satisfactory to me. I want to be able to walk in alone and walk out with one of the hottest girls in the club. (Forget the phone number) That is the old MO and I want to go back to that and better.

Good Luck with your new loves

SwingDude

Hiding Sh!t al over the Place is Key. Some Players hide stuff (panties) for the girls to find and realize that the Player has options...

I laid out a new nightie (still packaged) for the next girl to find if she sits in the chair in the LivRm...

It should start some interesting convo. I plan to have her model it. It is see thru and skimpy. Saving trees, silk spiders, or whatever. Very Green. The manufacturer did not use an excessive amount of material in making it.

My comments were Qualified???? to indicate that I am not trying to short change the Instructors. You have to be at least a little bit of a man to accomplish anything with women. Even the UGs have options, and their options usually only include a man with some game or balls. The guys who have approach problems need to work on Inner Game .

I only wimp out a little when the music is loud and I have to yell at the girl to be heard. Last night, I meditated with Sphinx and fell asleep awaking at 10pm. I was really annoyed, but I got ready and went out anyway and attracted the HB8 with only Projection, Confidence, and "The Look". The music was loud, but not loud enough to bother me and stop the convo. I did not wear "Shades" to be cool like I do occasionally. It is not good for GWM which I intended to do, but did not follow thru with that part. I just did a Huge amount of Kino which got lots of compliance. I kept her up close doing Salsa and Swing type moves to get her used to my touch. You talk about Warm and Fuzzy... The other boys appeared to be interested in the dance moves. It may have had something to do with how intertwined we were. The Sphinx was to Energize me and build Inner Game for the sarge.

I may talk to one of the instructors later on the DHVs, etc. That is where I am a little weak. I used to do it naturally, but lost it somehow.

See ya

SwingDude

Holidaze,

very interesting review thanks a lot! Do you still want to take a RSD bootcamp ? I thought that might be interesting for comparison purposes.

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Give A+ to Braddock and all the other instructors! When I applied for the boot camp , I didn’t know what to expect, but I knew for sure that I had zero game. As I sat around the table before the start of the seminar , I thought: “OK, what am I doing here? Why am I doing that to myself?” Then, Braddock began to speak and those guys spent the whole weekend shattering my self-limiting beliefs as to what was possible to achieve when picking up girls.
They were so passionate about that stuff and so willing to help us! No arrogance, no patronizing, just a bunch of very open-minded and encouraging instructors. Perhaps the best thing was to discover that they also had lots of trouble attracting women at one point in their lives, which is why they got into the game , and I could relate to that as I had the same problem.
The seminar was extremely well-structured and energetic. They were literally pouring information and lines that we could use while going out with them. Before we went out to sarge, I was still trying to process all the info and examples that they had given me during the day.

Braddock : charismatic, passionate, energetic and encouraging. Hang around him for a few minutes and you’ll be inspired. He’ll push you out of your comfort zone and in no time, you’ll find yourself opening sets and building massive attraction and chemistry with women like you never thought you could.

Sheriff : this guy is a total natural and so knowledgeable! Just like Braddock , he never stops shattering your boundaries and showing you what's possible to achieve.

Kisser: the friendly and enthusiastic one. He just has so much fun doing that stuff that I teamed up with him to open several sets. While you’re in the field talking to women, he will come over and help you score, explaining what you did right and wrong. Fun, fun, fun!

Rokker : this guy is so experienced! Just by observing you during the seminar , he’ll tell you what your sticking points will be when you’re out in the field on the same night. I could immediately focus on those obstacles , and as a result my game massively improved the next night.

Soul : his focus on kino was a real eye-opener. He’ll make you realize how important it is if you want to build attraction . I was by no means the kind of guys who would go kino right away. He totally shattered my apprehension during the seminar , and I was amazed to see how positively girls responded to my touch during the interactions. Wow! This thing was dynamite!

First night:

We split into 2 groups and I was hanging with Kisser, Rokker and Levo. Just before we began, Kisser helped me put together my opener and transition plus a funny and interesting story. I mean, he had me rehearse it to make sure that my mind wouldn’t go blank while opening and engaging sets.
I ended up opening 11 sets and 10 of them were responsive.
Kisser even came to help me isolate a girl by coming into one set and talking to her girlfriend. I was going kino , but just as Rokker had predicted, I didn’t know how to build attraction comfort from that stage. When I looked for Kisser for some advice, he was sitting in another room, already making out with the other girl! The rest of the night was OK as I kept opening sets.

Second night:

Insane! I’m still laughing while remembering it!
I had all the steps and lines in mind, and I knew exactly what I was going to say, from the opener to the kiss close. But I was also feeling more nervous as I had more material to think about.
First set: I hesitated when saying the opener and that was the end of it. The 2 girls kept walking.
Second set: no connection. I moved on after a few minutes.
Third set: I see those 2 girls on their own, and one of them is pretty darn cute Latina. I open and go kino right away with her girlfriend, paying no attention to my target. Opener, transition, second question. That’s when my boot camp mates comes into the set to help me isolate the isolate. I introduce them to him, negging my target. Bingo! He gets the message and starts talking to the girlfriend. The target is all mine now. I start telling her a story, and at the same time, I go kino , gently grab her arm and make sure she turns her back to her girlfriend. This way, they won’t be able to communicate with each other. She’s responsive and laughs at my story, touches me back with a big smile. Wow! This really looks good. Then I move to a couch just in front of the swimming pool. We play the strawberry field game and it cracks her up. We sit down and I start talking to her in Spanish, teasing her gently and qualifying her. Kino gets really intense. Soon, we’re all over each other, building comfort and massive chemistry. I touch her hair, her face, her neck, we keep speaking, but low tone, our faces are now so close. I’m about to make the almost-kiss move to keep building anticipation and a sexual atmosphere when disaster strikes: her bloody girlfriend is back standing right in front of us! Crap! One of my boot camp mates tries to talk to her and move her away, but he fails. My target becomes a little more distant. She doesn’t want to kiss me in front of her girlfriend. Damn! I should have asked her if she wanted to kiss me when I still had time! Braddock saw that and told me I would have kiss closed if I had asked her.
I don’t even remember how my interaction with this girl lasted but it was a blast. I didn’t get a kiss but it made me realize what was possible to achieve when your game is tight.
So I’ll be back in the US soon and I’ll be out 4 nights a week to practice what I learned and get girls.

At last, I have a plan when it comes to meeting women. Thanks Bradoock! You’re the man. Many thanks to all the instructors! That has been a life-changing experience!

Fidelio

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Fidelio,

I had no idea you were that structured on day 2. That is awesome man. I remember how impressed all the instructors were with you especially when you transitioned into speaking to her in her native tongue. You are going to be really great at this.

I left a message on your American cell about sarging next weekend when you're back. I'm composing my own red stack. So I can stop being so ADD and try to tighten up my game. Right now I'm all over the board. One night everything works, next night I can't even lock. Of course I'm the king of using like 12 different openers just to keep myself from getting bored but it is screwing up my game. I'm fumbling some of the transitions.

I also have a version of the story you told at bootcamp that hits 3 more attraction triggers and seems to sell much better. I'll go over it with you next weekend.

Holidaze

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Little more on the aftermath:

Now 3 weeks since the bootcamp . I had some success which I talked about here and some setbacks. Started dating two girls at the same time. The logistics on that were a little difficult but when asked I told both of them that I was dating other people. That worked out better than I thought. I got some coldeness from both of them for a day or two then it actually seemed to increase their attraction . Eventually I developed this overwhelming desire to choose and I broke it off with one to date the other exclusively.

That is when everything went very AFC. One of the byproducts of dating two girls at once was that just by doing that I had created enough of the lifestyle I had projected during the pickup to maintain attraction . Without having two girls the incongruence started to show and I wasn't able to project the same personality 24/7. Net result, it all went to hell.

I'm going to have to use a phone consultation with Braddock and start building my social circle game so I can actually become the guy that I am artificially putting out on day one.

So I am back to sarging with mixed results. The advice I received from every single instructor was to pick an opener and stick with it. I didn't do that and my game has been all over the place since. So now that I have the routine manual I am starting to build my own red stack. I'm going to see what one opener and a fixed stack can do for my game.

Holidaze

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I have no desire to do RSD . This method works and it works for the hottest girls out there. Right now doing RSD would just be a distraction I don't need.

Learn from my expensive mistakes.

Save your money and take a Mystery Method bootcamp . It is the only way to start building results quickly.

Holidaze

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