Thread: Sheriff & Mr M Bootcamp - NYC, Nov 2007 (With Braddock, Big Business, & Kisser)

looking forward to the day two synopsis, ssnake.

thanks a million for the kind words, gentlemen. you guys were incredible, and super fun to go out with. now just remember to continue talking to girls.

Day 2:
Each student debriefed himself, explaining what happened last night and received some suggestions from Mr. M . Mr. M was direct: he pointed right at me and told me I needed to work on my style. I was crestfallen, but it was definitely good advice. More on that later.

Mr. M introduced himself as an example of how TMM can work for anyone: "Look at me. I'm a short, ugly Asian guy." I wouldn't call him ugly, but for all those guys with hangups about their height, looks, or race, Mr. M is proof that all these factors can be overcome. Did I mention that he tailors his game exclusively toward 9s and 10s, and has never failed a Day 2 close?

Mr. M starts talking about different ways to transition, isolation techniques. He then goes into depth about attraction , explaining what is attractive, DHV stories to tell, and causing emotional spikes in a girl.

During the break, Scott comes over to address my style issue and gives me a list of stores exclusively in LA. (It's the effort that counts, right? =) Some other students chime in about stores in SoHo, which I take note of.

Class resumes. Mr. M goes over ways to be fun and interesting, cold reads , important frames to establish, social proof, how to react to things she says and does, kino was explained in depth... there's just too much to list. Day 2 was an tanker of information landing on my brain, and then Braddock happened.

Let me explain what Mr. M explained to us about Braddock . Braddock is ADD, and it shows. However, he is the fastest routine generating machine I can imagine. Braddock comes in, and starts explaining how to tease and push/pull girls. Then he goes into some examples... and more... and more... and... my hand nearly breaks trying to write down some of these AWESOME routines he just came up with the night before! I swear, it's like trying to chase a roller coaster. I managed to capture a fraction of what he said, only three pages.

Mr. M takes over again, and goes into qualification . He goes into depth about emotional connections, questions to ask to have the girl qualify to your standards, hoop theory, topics to discuss and to qualify a girl with, bait/hook/reel/release, and stuff to say near the end of qualification , as you are getting into comfort .

I left class with information overflowing from my brain. I was exhausted and needed a break.

Break 2:
During the break I went to work on my style. I went to a store in SoHo and asked two girls from the dressing room to help me pick out clubbing clothes. At first they just picked out about 15 pairs of jeans for me to try on. I settled on two pairs that I liked out of the bunch, and they went off to get t-shirts for me, then shirts, then a tie, each time getting more and more excited with the progress they were making with me. The girls were having so much playing dress-up with me that other guys wanted to get in on the action. After trying to hit on the girls with cheesy lines, they were promptly shut down with, "Sorry, I've got to go back to work." Then the girls ran straight to my dressing room and squealed excitedly, "Try this! Try this!"

At the end, the girls covered their mouths in awe, "You look like a totally different person! You look so good!" The reaction the girls were giving me boosted my ego immensely, and I was ready for anything that night.

Night 2:
Since I didn't open as much as I wanted to in Night 1, I was determined to make as much progress with my opening as possible. As I met each student and instructor, every one of them complimented my new threads. I literally felt like a new man, like I owned the place. It was a great feeling, and I opened like a madman that night, without being blown out once.

I worked with four instructors at different times that night, each one telling me what to do and how to overcome what happened in my last set. Braddock , Scott, Sheriff , and Big Business each gave their advice and winged me on certain sets.

A funny thing happened that night. A guy saw me open these two girls, came over, and opened me: "Are you a natural? I saw you talking to those girls over there, you've got game, man!". I had never been in this situation before, and when I am in unfamiliar situations my natural instinct is to lie. I denied knowing anything about nature, girls, and games. It turns out he was a self-proclaimed "keyboard jockey" in a competing company's community. That is not the best way to introduce yourself. So we ignored him until he went away.

We were debriefed, a some advice on how to proceed from here were given to me, and the night was over. I felt great.

I have to share a few thoughts here. I should have posted this earlier, but i just got home to dear old Sweden and the New York hotels' internet-connections suck, so here we go.

My biggest and foremost fear before signing up to this bootcamp was if I'm really good enough to do this. I don't consider myself an AFC, but rather a sub-AFC (let me know of there's another term, otherwise I just invented it). A quick background of myself:

I'm 35, and i've had 3 relations, all lasting about 2 weeks. A teenage depression made me isolate from all social contact from age 14 and up. No girlfrields, no parties, no promnight, practically no friends either. After seeking medical attention for anxiety /panic-disorder I was directed to therapy at age 30. The therapist quickly reallized i had to do something about my social life (=working @ day, sitting alone in apartment @ night/weekend), and we've been working on that for about 2 years now, with weekly sessions (costing me about $120 each at current exchangerate. Ouch!).

I'm shouldn't complain about the therapy, it's going great, and it spans a larger scope than pickup-techniques, but anyway, after 2 years therapy I've managed to start talking to people at bars (not nightclubs, too flirty atmospere, I feel too inferior to other men there), but only openings, no transitions (we didn't use these terms of course) and only functional openers, and only in "safe" venues like irish pubs where not much flirting is going on, and only "safe" sets, like 4-5 pointers, ...

And then i go to this bootcamp i New York...

At first I was a bit disappointed about the clientele. The other students seemed like they didnt need any advice at all. Most were good looking guys, and all were very outgoing and social. I figured it had to be cause they were newyorkers, but i did indeed feel quite inferior, like I always do in social situations. If that's the standard of the group, what could I possibly hope to learn?

Well, it proved to be quite a lot...

It turns out, these instructors really know how to teach the game , not only to play it. After initially getting blown out pretty much every time (and realising i suck at this, and wanna go home), Mr M approached me:
- How's it going?
- Bad. I get blown out all the time.
- OK, this is what we'll do. First I wanna see you blow out. Open that 2-set.
(I did, and quickly found myself talking to two lovely backs, as always)
- OK. Now, open me. Pretend I'm a 2-set with nines.
And I opened, and opened, and opened, on Mr M .
He saw every little thing a was doing wrong.
- Stand back! Dont lean in.
- TALK LOUDER!
- Your'e spitting at me! Talk to my ear instead of my face.
- Your'e making a strange face when youre listening. Thats creepy! Stand back and look cool.
And on and on...
All of a sudden he points at two girls: "Now, open that 2-set".

I go over and do my thing, and then I have one of the most breathtaking experiences of my life. The set opens! She talks to me! And when she listens, she's standing close to me like no one have ever done before (I wasn't bending over with my creepy face). And I sort of transitioned (really I was just throwing functional openers at her until she felt like some kind of information desk).

That night was the big eye-opener for me.
For the first time in my life I feel unthreatened by men, and unintimidated by women, even if I don't have the skills to go passed transition yet. And all of this in ONE WEEKEND.

So, what I take away from this, apart from my ego-boost and general happiness, is that this is really more than some gang of bachelours and adulterers sharing how to score. This is a serious branch of therapy emerging. I know from other sources there are droves of other men like me out there. Men with serious psychiatric (social) disabilities. And the sooner the established psychiatric care realizes this, the more people will get adequate help.

Thank you Mr M , Kisser, Sheriff , all you guys!

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inspiring man, good luck and i congratulate you on your honesty. i talk to a therapist too for other reasons, ive always been sociable, but it is not a stigma but a sign of strength. very few have the strength to admit when they need help. very inspirational.

I agree man! Takes a lot of strength to tell that story. I've had a tough road myself. I can tell you first hand if you keep working on your inner game and your outer game it will all come together. I watched Cabdriver this weekend and he did really well the second night. Sunday he seemed like a new person. Awesome man! Great story. Mad respect.

Braddock

Cabdriver,

I was super-impressed with how easily you opened & communicated with women on the second night, and how much your confidence grew over the course of the weekend. Remember how long you talked with that very cute Irish girl on Saturday night? Simply marvelous. Thanks for having the courage to share part of your life story with us as well... based on your courage in the field as well, I think you are a very courageous guy all the way around. Great job.

Kisser

Originally Posted by SSnake

Day 2:
I went to a store in SoHo and asked two girls from the dressing room to help me pick out clubbing clothes.

what is the name of this store?

I think it was urban outfitters

try atrium and also uni-qlo, more limited edition shit, urban outfitters has stuff that is distributed nationally and you don't want to be wearing the same shirt as some other guy @ a bar

What an incredible bootcamp . As much as students get a lot out of bootcamps , it provides us instructors with huge satisfaction to hear about the success and continued success of you guys. Kisser and I were saying that when a student is successful, its like your kid has won a baseball match lol

My main goal in any bootcamp I'm involved in is to cause revolutionary change in students’ ability with women – to get them as close to mastery as possible. I think that almost every student in the NY boot camp made the type of progress that will make a big difference to their lives in terms of ability with women. As an instructor, this makes a big difference to the job. Even before I started working with MM (when I was lead instructor for other PU companies), I got HUGE satisfaction from teaching guys how to take their ability with women to the next level.

I wanted to make the following points to anyone thinking of taking a boot camp :

• YES. Do approaches before you come. Study as much as you can. Read magic bullets . Listen to the audio series. Read David D. If you don’t get a chance, then that’s fine too. Basically, know nothing and Ill make you damn good. Get good and I will make you better. Get better and Ill make you the best.
  
• The students that perform the best are the students who try everything and can get out of their own heads and apply what the instructors teach them to close to 100%. The stuff I teach works. I DID NOT deviate from the model that I teach when I closed the playboy playmate in LA. Dahunter can confirm this as he was in the room. I only deviate when I don’t want to pick a girl up or create attraction .
  
• Don’t ignore the fact that this is an inner game process as well. Read books like Psycho Cybernetics by Maltz and Your Erroneous Zones by Dyer. Focus on improving yourself on the inside as well as the outside.

A special thank you to the wonderful approach coaches in NYC – Magic Man, Kisser, Big Business . You guys were amazing.

A big shout out to Braddock – gentleman, this guy is the MONEY. You won’t hear me speak about many people with the same amount of enthusiasm. The man is the real deal. Super game – the best I’ve seen in a long long time… with the ability to demonstrate on call. But its not just his game – its his positivity, integrity and energy. Yes, he pulls hot girls, but such positivity and enthusiasm for life is rare. Braddock , I haven’t realised as much about game as I did from our sunrise discussions from anyone in a long long time mate. You are next level J

Also, a special hello to Scott (my LA student turned approach coach in NY) - you have been thus far, one of the best students I have ever trained. I tried a revolutionary teaching format in LA and based on the results that you (and the students in NY and Dallas) got, I’m going to make it the model for future bootcamps . 3- k-closes over the bootcamp weekend and a LR in NYC with a hot chick! Amazing. I just got an email informing me that you just closed an international model too? Incredible – what progress. I’m proud of you buddy. You don’t deviate from the model and you get results – its EXACTLY what I said above.

Finally, Sheriff , my comrade in arms – a big thank you for everything buddy – what an amazing string of US bootcamps – LA, NYC and Dallas. You’re an amazing guy, a great teacher and a top friend. Legendary dating guru indeed - wouldn’t have rather winged the stars and stripes with anyone else!

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

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