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    Sheriff & Mr M Bootcamp - London, November 2007

    Ever since I was young I had two goals. One of them was to work in television.

    TV is amazing. The rush and excitement of producing a live show is addictive. I have worked with the likes of Bob Hope, Julia Roberts, and Kylie. I now launch channels and I remember the day I walked into a studio and thought “at last I work in TV. I get to MAKE TV!”. As you might imagine the feeling was that of a dream come true. I don’t tell you this to show off, I tell you this because when you are enjoying your DREAM it is something you are always grateful for. No matter how dull the day, you always realise that THIS is RIGHT! That no matter how bad things get, THIS is what you were meant to do. There’s a feeling of deep fulfilment.

    My second goal was to be great with women.

    Up until two days ago I enjoyed fleeting success. I went out, I dressed up. I had a good heart and I tried my best to show women all that I had to offer. If the truth were told, I would try and get eye contact until I felt able to approach and then I would try and hold a conversation until I was able to (somehow) start talking sexy. Finally, if I had all the signs, I would make a move and kiss. I’d say this happened with the women I liked about 3 times a year. The rest of the time I went with women I considered “below my league” in order to just get guaranteed sex. Did I like this? No. Did I have a choice (as I saw it)? No.

    I bought the usual books. Kama sutra , The Joy of Sex, How to Attract your Ideal Mate etc Although I wouldn’t admit it, nothing made a difference. Like a smoker who quits for 2 weeks and then starts again. There’s no change at the end of the day in lifestyle. No change in results. My father always told me that women want a nice person. A good person. My mother agreed. It was around the time that she cheated on him for the second time that I started to wonder...

    On Friday, (Oct 5th) ) I attended the MM bootcamp. I had actually done my research and found that at least four other seduction “schools” were also teaching that weekend. I wrote them all down on a piece of paper. They looked good. One of them was by some English guys. The Mystery Method was the most expensive, the most flashy. I thought that after the VH1 series EVERYONE will be wanting to do the Mystery Method . So why should I risk a tired format? ANY of the others would be great, surely.
    In the end, my instinct lead me, somehow, to booking with the mystery method . Thank god.

    The Seminar was lead by Sheriff and Mr M . We all shuffled in (minimum of eye contact) and took our seats. I didn’t know what to expect or what to prepare for. It was clear that all parties present had read “The Game ”. Would the instructors understand our position or would they operate in another world? I had visualised stern, cold, instructors who taught us in barks and with distant eyes. I COULD NOT have been further from the truth. The moment the seminar started Sheriff stood up and introduced himself. Far from cold or distant, he seemed to really understand our position and the next five hours passed in a blur of theory and instruction. We were lead point by point through the information that we would need that evening and at 7pm we wrapped up for a couple of hours until we met again at the nightclub.

    Those hours passed agonisingly slowly. My mind was trying to process the information that it had absorbed that day and my stomach kept telling me how nervous I was about the experience I was about to get. I anticipated - Rejection, scorn, embarrassment, and fear. A cocktail of emotions churning around inside, joined by excitement and anticipation. This was living! No matter how scary, no matter how terrified I was I was going to DO this tonight! 100%! Hold NOTHING back!!

    The last walk I took as my old self was down Regents street, London. I would never see that guy again.

    I walked into the club and saw a few of the students and two instructors talking with a three set. That was one of the great things about our course. There were a minimum of five instructors at any time and sometimes there were seven or more. No matter where I was in the club that night I could almost guarantee that at any time I could turn around and get a “debrief” from an instructor and a few words about how to improve my game.

    As I waited I decided to approach a set. I was high on optimism and low on self control. I burned out. It was exactly what I needed in every sense. Not only was I still alive but I realised what I had done wrong. I was giving them the value. I went in, pecked, rushed my words, and seconds later ejected with shreds of dignity - but you know what? It didn’t matter. It didn’t hurt. I could wallow if I wanted and if I had, I think I could easily have sunk into a serious gloom. Somewhere in the back of my mind some windows aligned and I realised that the BEST therapy for that sting, the best ointment – was another set.

    Slo-mo kicked in, and the first thought to race across my mind was that after that last set what did I have to loose? This gave me the ability to ACT. Not just to take action but to ACT. To perform. I was playing the role of a high value male. I was performing the words, concentrating on delivery and body language because, like an actor, I had memorised the lines. The set went very well. I opened, Isolated, attracted and then ejected. Ecstatic, joyful and disappointed that I didn’t stick in there.

    That night. That wonderful night, I met two people. The first were the instructors who took amazing care of all of us and gave us words of encouragement and support like a proud father watching his son ride without stabilisers. The second person I met was myself. The person I always KNEW I could be. At times I felt like giggling, like laughing. Like punching the air and hugging myself. I became an opening junkie. I opened and opened and opened. Any time I saw a set I approached. Animal, Vegetable or mineral I loved approaching !! With the instructors help I fine tuned my approach. No set was too scary, and those fearful emotions I described earlier...? They left with the old me.

    The next day we studied. Hard. I sucked up as much as I could, preying that my sub-conscious mind would store it all for me. Again we left the classroom, and again the night fell and I walked down regents street to the club. This time it was different. I would be bullshitting to say I was fearless. The funny thing was, I wasn’t scared, I was just vibrating. Energy was gathering for what I knew was in store. I drank it in...

    My first set died. I moved on. I opened brilliantly, then locked in, then attracted, and qualified, built comfort and dried out. No problem, Sheriff and Mr M were there to guide me. My safety net. Two FRIENDS now. I opened again, and again, and again. I could have K-closed but I didn’t pull the trigger. I wasn’t scared I just didn’t know when. I opened any set I wanted to and for the first time opened a mixed set with poise and precision.
    The night ended and I had found my sticking points . For Mr M ’s sake I am going to destroy this challenge!

    We de-briefed and went home. The next day we studied more theory, wrapped up and the course was over.

    They say that battle is where the true brothers are born. I made new brothers this weekend. I hope they read this because I imagine that being a MM instructor means that you meet a LOT of people. I want Mr M , Sheriff, Sam, Michael and Andreas to know that they changed at least one life this weekend. Some people make the world a better place by contributing money. Some make it a better place by devoting their time to medicine or care. The men I met this weekend helped me to discover a side of me I knew had been hibernating. They did it with warmth, humour , and a firm hand – always encouraging me into a new set and to “pull the trigger!!”

    If for some reason you are reading this and you haven’t done the seminar yet please don’t be hasty. Some people DON’T want to leave their comfort zone. Some people are truly scared to be all they can be. If that is you then please don’t sign up. I mean it.

    But if like me, you feel like there is a part of you that is clawing from the inside. A part of you that is asking you right now to let it out. If you’d like to look in the mirror and see the real you staring back as you say “I did it!!” then the first step is such a simple, small one. Sign up and...

    ...Pull The Trigger.

    michael@funkypromos.com



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    I’ve just realised that my biggest concern BEFORE I joined the course was “what will the instructors be like?” – in case you are looking for information on the instructors I have given my personal view below. (of course these are only my opinions)

    Sheriff – The first guy from the course that I met when I walked into the room. He’s a bit like the Clarke Kent of the Venusian Arts because he looks just like a friend. I half expected our instructor to be dressed like Mystery or J-dog but Sheriff was just cool and trendy. Once he started teaching us though it was clear he knew just about all there was to know about the pick up. Any questions we had he could help with but the main thing was that HE’s BEEN THERE TOO. I won’t tell his story, but I think it’s safe to say that everyone in the room understood that no matter how bad we thought we had been in the past Sheriff had been there too. And man! When you see him in the field, he is one energised Muthaf***er!! It was Sheriff’s energy at times in the workshop that PROPELLED me to the next set, and the next... If you have Sheriff down as your instructor you are in for a GREAT time. He also knows a lot about the later stages of the pickup. How to get a girl over to your pad and escalating to seduction . (and has a hilarious solution to LMR !!  )

    Mr M – You can’t help but like Mr M . He’s got an easy smile and like Sheriff has MASTERED the mystery method . I didn’t meet Mr M properly until Friday night. Where Sheriff showed me how to propel into a set and understand the structure of the techniques, Mr M showed me the nuances and details behind the stages like qualifying and body language . I can honestly say that without Mr M I know that it would have taken me a LOT longer to grasp subtleties like how to convey higher quality through body language and how to deliver openers so that they are twice as effective! The best thing was that with Mr M as your wing , a set became FUN!! He’s such a master at this stuff. One set we opened I watched as he dealt with an obstacle so well that my target just grabbed me out of nowhere!! When I thought the set was lost, he demonstrated how to turn it around and snatch victory from the jaws of disaster. He has the ability to spot the next area of development and guide you through it. Each set with Mr M I improved dramatically and I have to admit that HE was the one who christened me “Pull the Trigger”! 

    Sam – Sam’s one of those SOB’s that makes this look easy  Frankly, that’s exactly what we needed on Friday night. It would have been easy for us new recruits to be lost in that world of “who do I approach?” (by the way the answer for me was “the first set you see”) “what if I don’t get this right?’ and “What if it goes wrong?”. Then Sam walks up to you and says “don’t worry, watch this” and you breathe a little better as you realise it can be done. I got so far with one set and things didn’t move from the attraction stage. When I ejected from that set and spoke to Sam he was able to gently guide me on what I should have done next and how to transition smoothly. After that I locked in better, I transitioned to qualifying a lot sooner and really built up my momentum.

    HiRoller) – After three hours in the club, HiRoller guided me into my best set of the weekend. He’s got a calm, gentle guidance that makes you pay attention and REALLY helps you fine tune your game. I remember coming out of one set and HiRoller was there waiting with some advice. He gave me about 30 seconds of calibration and then I jumped straight into another set. He was also my wingman a few times and quite honestly makes the whole thing look easy! He’s also a really nice guy.

    Andreas – OK, have you ever opened a set and had a girl turn away from you? On Friday night I had this happen and I had NO idea what to do. I mean, I’m talking to three of them and one turns away to look for a friend or something. Andreas is the king of AMOG energy and showed me how to deal with this in a very advanced way. He also watched out for every student and I remember one time when I was floundering on one of my early sets and just when I needed it he appeared by my side and helped me out. He was like my big brother of the instructors. 

    Adam (guest speaker) – Adam had only an hour with us but what an hour it was! Who could have thought that you can do so much with social proof !? Not only an interesting person but also a funny and lively speaker. He showed us techniques to take our game from a micro level (sets) to a macro level (rooms and venues).

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    London October Boot-camp.


    OK, due to my half-wittedly not activating my Mystery account “Doh” I am now posting my intended thread a week after the London boot-camp. I feel this delay has actually made my post a little fuller, but the underlying message stays the same.

    BEG, BORROW, STEAL (OK MAYBE NOT STEAL) THE MONEY TO GO ON ONE OF THESE BOOTCAMPS. IF YOU’RE PREPARED TO MAKE THE EFFORT, SHORT OF A LOTTERY WIN I DOUBT ANYTHING ELSE WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE QUITE AS MUCH!

    Now to the finer detail behind my message:

    Yesterday I went to watch the Football (Soccer to my American Friends) followed by the Rugby, all in all a full 11 hours of sports related drinking. I made the conscious effort this was a lads day, primary focus drinking, women off the agenda. You may ask what the hell this has to do with the boot-camp. Well without the boot-camp when my mates went to the bar I would not have convinced two girls to come join our table (two 6.5’s), had one of them pressing against me through the whole night, even when her poor AFC friend turned up, ended up making out with her and ended the night with her demanding my phone and putting her number in.

    I used to be that AFC, he was a really nice guy and he clearly wanted to sleep with the girl in question. I really felt for him, but, he had blown it. When I asked the girl about him she described him as just a friend. They had been on about 10 dates and he had never made a move, shortly after I made out with her.

    So about the actual Boot-camp.

    Like all the others I arrived at the Hotel unsure of exactly what I had got myself into and sheepishly sat down. Playing heavily on my mind was that I have just charged to the company a course of how to pick up women (a sales and self confidence training course if the revenue ask)? On any of my more logical days the sound of alarm bells would be deafening, but strangely not today!

    Slowly I was joined in the room by a mixed group of people, who were surprising all normal successful decent guys. I don’t know why I was so surprised by this, as if for a second I thought this was for weirdo’s what the hell was I doing there? As yet no instructor, so I waited for some smug excessively good looking guys to bowl through the door. The door swung open and I was greeted by more normal decent blokes, this time is was Sheriff the instructor and Stickler a guest instructor? Christ! does this stuff actually work?

    We slowly went round the table and introduced ourselves and a common thread appeared. Here were a group of guys who appeared to have made it in their chosen fields, but been consistently fucked over by life in the arena of dating. We had all slept with women, had long term relationships and all got to the end of them thinking why the fuck was I with that person? Yes we all appeared to have at least one classic case on one-itis under our belts!

    The seminar rolled on and the insight in to the fairer sex was amazing. Having read Magic Bullets and The Game I was unsure if the seminar would be worth it, but so much more was covered and what’s more appeared to sink in. As the day progressed I became more and more aware of this nauseous feeling, it was beginning to dawn on me that tonight I was going to have to do this for real, humiliation beckoned!!

    Back in my hotel room I pondered over my notes and worried about what to wear. In my case I had packed a brilliant white suit jacket I had bought 2 years ago. I had worn the jacket once and my mates had ripped the piss out of me so much I threw it in a bin bag in the loft. Wearing the jacket made me feel self conscious but, I really liked it, decision made if I am going down in flames tonight I am going to do it in truly world class style.

    I left the hotel room for the club ready for the passers by to giggle at my jacket, but nothing happened, wow London’s really cosmopolitan, got to the club expecting a few jokes from the guys again nothing. This highlighted a very important lesson, how many time had I been out with my mates and they had cracked jokes about me when I was talking to ladies or I had done the same to them, but not these guys. Everyone on my course was part of the team; there to take care of, support and defend a fellow player at any costs, this was a new experience.

    I went to the bar to get a drink to steady my nerves which turned out to be one of only two I would consume all night. How many nights I had drunk to get up the courage to approach a girl and ended being the drunken creepy guy staring at girls, but never approaching ! Two of the guest instructors opened up a set at the table by the Bar and pulled me into to, I choked! I choked but something wasn’t quite the same, I didn’t feel embarrassed or worried in fact all I could think was its over, the first one is over and I wasn’t humiliated, I can do this. The instructors were great they offered support and feedback.

    The night went on and we opened set after set, some went well other I ran out of conversation and politely made my excuses but, never was I told to get lost. I took a break and went to the bar for a water (yes water), without realising it I opened this girl at the bar right whilst she was being chatted up by this big guy (for the record I weigh less than most women). It was amazing within 2 minutes she had completely turned her back on the guy and was desperately trying to qualify herself to me. At one point she emptied her whole handbag out on the table, begging me not to go anywhere whilst she got something out to prove she was interesting?????

    The night went on and set after set were worked, women who had blown us out earlier were starting to notice other women were finding us interesting and opening us? I learnt so much that night but, most of all I learnt that the blokes you are with always have a higher value than any woman.

    The second night in the field was completely different, there were far more men out, much more natural game was being worked in the rooms and the music was louder. All in all it was a tough night and even tougher crowd and the instructors spotted this. A new game plan was set, “extreme sarging” how far can you go before being told to fuck off!

    One of the other guys opened a set which was a hen party worked it a while but got frozen out! My missions was to go in, open the set with exactly the same opener and succeed, no way is this going to work? In I went and there I stayed as the girls beaconed my target to go dancing; she sat firm what the hells going on here?

    Next I was given the express order to work a tough set and get told to fuck off, they tried to freeze me out but, I kept talking making them uncomfortable so they had to re-engage with me. Even when I gave them an express order to slip me the finger and say fuck off, they were so self conscious about being rude to me they refused to do it.

    At the end of each night we were debriefed outside and headed home. On the second night as I walked back to the hotel I stopped for a slice of Pizza, beside me was a tall quite attractive American Girl, within 7 minutes I had her number and she had invited me to stay out clubbing with her than night! I wasn’t even interested or working particularly good game, it was like I was on auto pilot.

    You are taught true Game on the course and when you leave you have three options.
    • Forget all you have learned and go back to your sad old ways.
    • Work Game like a robot never deviating from the scripted routine.
    • Take on board the concepts and principles and try to work them in to who you are as an individual.

    If you choose the first one please send me your £3000 dollars, as I will put it to much better use. For the other two get out and work what you have learned as straight away after and as often as you can after the course, otherwise you will get option one by default!

    A huge thank you to all the instructors and guest instructors who made the experience what it was, a truly excellent experience.

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    Why I went on the course

    I’d not had a particularly bad time in the past at the hand of girlfriends. Maybe I’d been lucky in that I’d had a number of relationships both long and short and gone out with some pretty attractive women.

    However, the problem I had was that my success wasn’t consistent. Meeting girls was driven a lot by how much effort they made as well as my own effort. In the past couple of years I’d also been in a couple of relationships where even though I had freedom and sex on tap I was still perceived as a friend rather than a lover.

    Hence I wanted to get more consistency in my success, be more in control of my destiny and also perhaps reach the potential that other people seemed to see but which I didn’t feel.

    I had read literature and also seen why some people were good and others not. I had even tried small things however without the structured approach and support from a bootcamp I thought it would be difficult to develop further.

    How I found the course

    I’d looked at a few courses in the past but always managed to find some excuse not to do it. However, finally I plucked up the courage and signed up. The first day was very nerve racking. I didn’t know what to expect or what the other people would be like.

    On getting there, I was very surprised by the other participants. They all came across as successful, attractive, funny and confident, all the kind of traits which I thought would be key for having success. However, on getting to know them more it soon became clear that we all had our insecurities and all lacked a structured approach to meeting women.

    As the day progressed we were submerged in the process. And been logical males we lapped it up.

    Unlike the others I think I missed out on seeing the other instructors show their skill because I was thrown in at the deep end. This was perhaps the one down side to the course in that sometimes it lots its structure a bit. However, within about a minute I was in a set with a beautiful Italian girl. This lasted a long time it didn’t progress to the later stages but I did learn from it and gained confidence. I then met up with an instructor and was immediately thrown into another set. This one went better and I managed to escalate from attraction to qualification and even get kino escalation (after a bit of prompting from my instructor).

    And that’s how the night went on, thrown into a set, get a few tips then try another. It was tiring and initially I was nervous at the approach but my instructors kept pointing out new sets and pushing me in. I learnt a lot, progressed and finally managed to number close on another Italian who I then met the following day.

    After about 10 sets I had totally got over the worry of going up to sets and I could keep trying new things and develop my technique. By the second night I could open sets, move through the different stages and finally kiss closed on the girl who I am now sleeping with on a regular basis.

    After the course

    I feel that I have changed massively since the course. I am much more confident and more structured in my approach. I have literally been walking on air over the past few weeks and have been dating a number of girls.

    My lifestyle has also improved and I now have much more opportunities to go out.

    I still have sticking points to work on, but now I have the ability to practice my technique and improve.

    The Future

    Practice, Practice, Practice now is the key. I have been out with some non MM friends and although I have met people it has been a bit harder. Therefore I’m hoping to use the forums and especially keep in touch with the other guys from the bootcamp and go out and enjoy.

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