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    Fader Bootcamp - Atlanta, July 2011

    I just finished Faders boot camp and I'm just now going over my notes and thinking about what all happened this weekend. I signed up for this boot camp many, many weeks ago, and I've been looking forward to it ever since then. Like many other people, I read as many reviews of Faderís boot camps as possible and when I found out he was coming to Atlanta, which is just a few hours away from where I live, I signed up immediately. As you probably are ready know, Faders reviews are off the charts, almost to the point where you wonder ďcan he possibly live up to these expectations?Ē I'm here to say yes.

    Friday

    We started off talking about inner game issues, not just dealing with pickup but in general life situations. He gives many exercises that we can do, not just at the boot camp but arguably for the rest of our lives. All of his explanations about inner game issues and how to overcome them are not only easy-to-understand but also fairly easy to implement. Two of his exercises in particular I know for a fact will help me in my life in general. Next we went over learning skills. The reason he goes over these skills is so that we are self-sufficient, which is his ultimate goal by the end of the boot camp. Finally, we went over opening. He went over the structure and the different times to implement different types of openers. He then gave us a few transitions to use that night so that he would know he was working with. Last thing he did in class was give us a feedback program that we could use on our own if we go out in the field the field. Oh, he also gives a bunch of books, like 20 to 25, to read that would help us with pickup.

    The in field session was fun. Fader took us out to a local bar and number closed two hired guns, both waitresses, at the bar. In doing this he showed a few techniques that were more advanced than what we were capable of at that moment but very cool watch. The entire group did very well that night and it was awesome being able to be coached after approaching a few sets. Personally I thought I did very well, simply opening up three sets that night. There pointed out to me that that was not enough and that I needed to push my boundaries the next night. I later found out he was absolutely right.

    At this point I probably should point out, one of the most common phrases they are made this weekend was" I'm always right at boot camp, maybe not at other places, but at boot camp I'm always right". And it's true. It was rare it not nonexistent that he was wrong when critiquing or offering helpful hints.

    Saturday

    Saturday started off with a debriefing, and I learned that my three sets of the night was not good enough and that I need to work on that. Fortunately Fader set in such a way that it was actually sort of inspiring, so I was determined to go and approaches many sets as possible, no matter how uncomfortable I got. More on this later. Fader started off the day talking about attraction, about the different ways to attract a girl, different types of attraction, and ways to get either to work for you. Within this lecture was discussion of ways to look better and better present an identity to women. Next topic was transitions and he gave us in numerous ways of transitioning, one which I used the entire night and it worked perfectly. Most of the sets were hooked. Fader last went into qualification, because Faderís lectures usually run long, he decided to split qualification into two days. This is a good idea ultimately because it is a huge topic and Fader did a great job explaining different aspects of qualification. That night we went to the same bar and I used the same opener in transition all-night. Feeling inspired, I approached between eight and 10 sets that night. Did extremely well in by the end of the night I truly did feel like no woman is out of my league. It was a fantastic feeling and one I'm still feeling right now, so I'm actively trying to figure out ways to get out more and push my boundaries.

    Sunday

    Once again we debrief from the night before Fader said I did much better. The first topic discussed comfort and qualification. He really goes in depth into this. This is something I want to implement in my pickup game and I feel I have the tools necessary to do this. Fader ended with a discussion of Facebook game and a few other miscellaneous topics and gave his closing arguments which honestly was very inspirational.

    Strip club

    Of course no review of Faderís workshop would be complete without a discussion of what went on the strip club. Fader managed to number close a waitress which was awesome to see. One of the students even managed to get a number from a stripper. It was awesome seeing him in his element. It is to read the first night the strippers were not in the best mood but Saturday they were in a better mood so it all evened out in the end.

    Any doubts about signing up for faders boot camp, erase them immediately. This guy truly cares about the students and enjoys teaching. I feel like I'm self-sufficient in an area of my life that I was not happy with before. Now, I feel I can take on the world and I've made a few new friends along the way. Read a few of his reviews, they all same thing and they are correct in every way possible.

    I'm rereading what I've written; I don't feel you have done this justice. This is a life-changing event and gave me a new way of viewing a world. In short, this boot campís at 10, and you cannot ask for more. Fader puts his all into these workshops and results are downright amazing. I'm going to post this but I reserve the right to put in more if I think about it and after I get some sleep. Which reminds me, when you go to his boot camp, be extremely well rested and be prepared to work your ass off.

    Inside joke: LOGISTICS!!!!!!!

    Thanks Fader, this weekend was better than I could have hoped for!



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    Fader Bootcamp - Atlanta, July 2011

    Before I get to the body of the review, I want to clarify what the purpose of the bootcamp is. The bootcamp alone will not turn you into a super PUA. It will require lots of practice (months to years of actual practice for me anyway). The purpose of the bootcamp is to give you the blue print and starting you on your path. The purpose of the bootcamp is about bringing out the best in you. Your success will depend on your effort and determination, but the bootcamp is a great way to lay the foundations. Romance was the only major aspect of my life that I didnít feel that I was in control of. After the bootcamp, I feel that I can succeed in that aspect.

    Fader is a great instructor. All LS instructors have game, but Fader truly cares about you as a student, a person, and eventually a friend. After the first night infield, I was discouraged by my (self perceived lack of) progress. My approach anxiety made my openers sound mechanical, and several girls called me out on it. One cougar that I approached earlier actually came by to pick on me, but Faderís got my back and booted her out. We got back to the hotel at 4am, and Fader talked to me to fix my inner game issues until 6am and he was willing to work with me for as long as it took. Heís been teaching in class room and in field for over 14 hours, and he was still willing to spend as much time with me as needed to help me get better. You simply will not find an instructor that cares more. And it paid off for me the next night, where I opened 10-15 sets and phone closed a cute girl, while totally winging everything beyond the opener and transition. I was able to do this because Fader made me believe that I can do it (inner game). He was as excited for me as I was on the second night and gave me a huge hug.


    Detailed Review:
    Friday

    The content of in class teaching was similar to what I expected overall except Fader places great emphasis on teaching inner game. He started day one by talking about his transformation, spent most of day one on inner game issues, and then covered learning skills and opening/transition. Not enough emphasis can be placed on inner game (see the difference between night 1 me and night 2 me). The learning skill portion is also particularly valuable. I learned things from both the inner game and learning skill portion that will greatly help me in life (and I consider myself successful in life prior to bootcamp).

    Then, Fader took us to a local bar. He phone closed two waitresses during a fairly busy night as the above student said. But what impressed me the most in retrospect is how he handled failure. Fader opened a two set directly, and one of the girls had a fiancť who came over after the approach. Fader was completely cool and ejected from set. It didnít bother him. And why should it? I struggled the first night. I was not very natural in my openers and I let the poor openers shake me. A pair of cougars totally saw my doubt and one of them came by to pick on me later in the night. Fader let me attempt to handle the situation until I canít and ejected her. It was kinda funny because we were simultaneously throwing two frames on her. Fader took me around for a few sets to settle my nerves. I ended my night at the bar by opening a 7 directly. It hooked and I was in conversation for a few minutes, and then ejected when she called over her male friend, which turned out to be a mistake confirmed by the surprise on her face when I did it and later by Fader.

    Next, we went to a strip club. Fader taught us strip club game during the ride. I have never been to a strip club prior to this and it was overwhelming at first. The night was going pretty slow at first and the strippers avoided Fader for the entire night (we were joking that his picture was up in the back). He did pick up a waitress, which was pretty cool. Later in the night, two strippers came by. One got picked up by another student. He had that stripper in the palm of his hand by the end of the night. She was actually crying because he really connected with her. He should tell the whole story. The other stripper was working the rest of the students. She ended up on me last. Here I was, in a strip club for the first time in my life, not having spent a single dollar beyond the cover, and now with a pretty stripper on me. Realizing that I have nothing to lose, I started trying to pick her up using Faderís advice. I started qualifying her and directing the conversation where I wanted it to go (which was food. We were talking about what the name of her favorite dish should be, which Iím actually going to try to make this weekend because it sounds delicious). She was with me for about 10 minutes before her friend enticed her away with large amounts of cash. Fader later told me that I was doing well, but that particular situation was unwinnable. The experience also taught me a lot about approaches. Here are strippers who approach men every night. And they are pretty and naked. Yet, they are nervous to approach you without a pretext, and alcohol, and maybe drugs.

    I was actually doing quite well toward the end of the night, but at the time, I was disappointed with myself. Sensing that, Fader talked with me for another 2 hours after we got back to the hotel to solve my inner game issues. He went out of his way for me.


    Saturday

    We were debriefed first thing Saturday. The takeaway for every student was to push their boundaries. And then Fader covered attraction, transition, and qualification. Qualification was split into Sunday as well. By this time, all students were tired and Fader told us to just relax before the infield.

    We went to the same bar again, and this night was a huge success for every student. I think everyone opened a good amount of sets. I started the night with a couple of approaches that I didnít care about to get my energy going, and soon I didnít care about any of my approaches. I approached a married girl and had 10 minute conversation with her. I approached a two set, with boyfriends that came over during the conversation. One of them gave me a hug. Later that night, we got a table and I started talking to a group of girls that walked by. One of them was somewhat hostile towards me. But I stuck by my ďIím just having fun and being socialĒ frame, and before I know it, I was qualifying her. Fader made me sit the girl down, and I had a great conversation with the girl, including complimenting her off qualification. Her friends ended leaving, but she stayed for a bit long so I could phone close her. All the students kept on opening, pulling other students into sets and pushing each other. At one point, we had so many girls at our table that Fader called our table management a mess. Iím going to reframe it as a good problem that I never had in my life. Fader was rocking a pink shirt that night and was plotting all night about how to get another guy with a pink shirt thrown out. And Fader picked a girl inadvertently while winging for a student. She was offended that Fader didnít take down her number.

    Strip club on the second night was uneventful. We had less than 2 hours and it was too busy for any stripper to come by. Fader spent the time trying to pick up a prostitute (we actually saw her exchange money and walk out with a guy). Except Fader didnít speak her language. He kept on poking her and she kept on trying to freeze him out. Except Fader doesnít care and she ended up walking out. Fader did pull a girl at the hotel into his room to help his needs after the strip club. Oh, he also phone closed a waitress at the hotel. I was being stupid and decided to pass up that meal opportunity to watch.


    Sunday

    More debriefing, with Fader proud of everyone. Covered some more qualification, comfort, fashion, and logistics. He gave his closing arguments, which was very inspirational at the time, but is now a blur to me. At this point, we were all very tired. An old student of Faderís came by and two students went out with them to have lunch. We witnessed Fader pick up a girl in day game at the restaurant. During lunch, there were two dating couples having lunch at tables next to ours. The girls looked bored out of their minds, and it finally hit me that I will never be that guy boring a girl to death ever again. Fader actually thought one of them was pretty and strangely enough that one started playing eye games with me. There are three problems with this. 1) I am tired as hell, 2) I donít know how to play eye games, and 3) she wasnít my type. When she finally left with her date, she looked me in the eyes and kinda gave a shrug. Like I understood her reality, which after this weekend, maybe I do, just a little bit. And then Fader gave me more encouraging words and his old student took him to the airport. Before he left, he showed me a facebook update he was posting. It said something to the effect of ďmade 4 new friends this weekendĒ.



    I would call Faderís bootcamp life changing, but Fader told me not to. Because he believes that after his bootcamp, you still need to work. But at the end of the bootcamp, I felt like I can do this. That I can pickup any girl. And not in some delusional logical self-rationalizing way, but a belief at my core. This bootcamp was better than a 10. Fader pours his soul into his bootcamp, and it will make you better. And I formed life long friendships with Fader and other students.

    So stop reading this and go take Faderís bootcamp. Itís absolutely worth it. Keep an open mind and try everything Fader tells you because Fader *is* always right on his bootcamps. And rest well before the bootcamp, because you are going on one hell of a rollercoaster ride and you will be better because of it.

    Fader, thank you so much. Iím gonna work my ass off, so one day I can tell you that Iím living up to my full potential because of your inspiration. Oh, Iím working on the exercises too

    Finally, I want to give a shout out to Phero for pushing me to take this bootcamp which I might not have taken otherwise.

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    Re: drinking and boot camps

    Mods, personally I thought this would be most beneficial as its own thread, but I understand if you want to put this in my fader bootcamp review instead since its not a particular review of one bootcamp.

    I just finished talking with Phero, and I remembered one of the things I took away from that bootcamp I took with fader was that I didn't have to drink to game. I'm an alcoholic (that's not ALL I am, but its a part of me that I have to respect) and was afraid I would have to drink at the bootcamp or it would be weird, causing me to be blown out or something. But the bootcamp taught me that it wasn't necessary, and in fact your game will be BETTER if you don't. This isn't to say you can't drink if its something you want to do, but I don't think I would have learned that lesson without taking a bootcamp.

    If you are hesitant to take a bootcamp due to this issue, believe me, sign up for one and you will be AMAZED at what is within your potential. This will no longer be a sticking point for you, I'm about to go sarging solo and NOT DRINKING and I feel great about it.

    Hope this is helpful to people.

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    Fader Bootcamp - Atlanta, July 2011

    Before I get to the body of the review, I want to clarify what the purpose of the bootcamp is. The bootcamp alone will not turn you into a super PUA. It will require lots of practice (months to years of actual practice for me anyway). The purpose of the bootcamp is to give you the blue print and starting you on your path. The purpose of the bootcamp is about bringing out the best in you. Your success will depend on your effort and determination, but the bootcamp is a great way to lay the foundations. Romance was the only major aspect of my life that I didnít feel that I was in control of. After the bootcamp, I feel that I can succeed in that aspect.

    Fader is a great instructor. All LS instructors have game, but Fader truly cares about you as a student, a person, and eventually a friend. After the first night infield, I was discouraged by my (self perceived lack of) progress. My approach anxiety made my openers sound mechanical, and several girls called me out on it. One cougar that I approached earlier actually came by to pick on me, but Faderís got my back and booted her out. We got back to the hotel at 4am, and Fader talked to me to fix my inner game issues until 6am and he was willing to work with me for as long as it took. Heís been teaching in class room and in field for over 14 hours, and he was still willing to spend as much time with me as needed to help me get better. You simply will not find an instructor that cares more. And it paid off for me the next night, where I opened 10-15 sets and phone closed a cute girl, while totally winging everything beyond the opener and transition. I was able to do this because Fader made me believe that I can do it (inner game). He was as excited for me as I was on the second night and gave me a huge hug.


    Detailed Review:
    Friday

    The content of in class teaching was similar to what I expected overall except Fader places great emphasis on teaching inner game. He started day one by talking about his transformation, spent most of day one on inner game issues, and then covered learning skills and opening/transition. Not enough emphasis can be placed on inner game (see the difference between night 1 me and night 2 me). The learning skill portion is also particularly valuable. I learned things from both the inner game and learning skill portion that will greatly help me in life (and I consider myself successful in life prior to bootcamp).

    Then, Fader took us to a local bar. He phone closed two waitresses during a fairly busy night as the above student said. But what impressed me the most in retrospect is how he handled failure. Fader opened a two set directly, and one of the girls had a fiancť who came over after the approach. Fader was completely cool and ejected from set. It didnít bother him. And why should it? I struggled the first night. I was not very natural in my openers and I let the poor openers shake me. A pair of cougars totally saw my doubt and one of them came by to pick on me later in the night. Fader let me attempt to handle the situation until I canít and ejected her. It was kinda funny because we were simultaneously throwing two frames on her. Fader took me around for a few sets to settle my nerves. I ended my night at the bar by opening a 7 directly. It hooked and I was in conversation for a few minutes, and then ejected when she called over her male friend, which turned out to be a mistake confirmed by the surprise on her face when I did it and later by Fader.

    Next, we went to a strip club. Fader taught us strip club game during the ride. I have never been to a strip club prior to this and it was overwhelming at first. The night was going pretty slow at first and the strippers avoided Fader for the entire night (we were joking that his picture was up in the back). He did pick up a waitress, which was pretty cool. Later in the night, two strippers came by. One got picked up by another student. He had that stripper in the palm of his hand by the end of the night. She was actually crying because he really connected with her. He should tell the whole story. The other stripper was working the rest of the students. She ended up on me last. Here I was, in a strip club for the first time in my life, not having spent a single dollar beyond the cover, and now with a pretty stripper on me. Realizing that I have nothing to lose, I started trying to pick her up using Faderís advice. I started qualifying her and directing the conversation where I wanted it to go (which was food. We were talking about what the name of her favorite dish should be, which Iím actually going to try to make this weekend because it sounds delicious). She was with me for about 10 minutes before her friend enticed her away with large amounts of cash. Fader later told me that I was doing well, but that particular situation was unwinnable. The experience also taught me a lot about approaches. Here are strippers who approach men every night. And they are pretty and naked. Yet, they are nervous to approach you without a pretext, and alcohol, and maybe drugs.

    I was actually doing quite well toward the end of the night, but at the time, I was disappointed with myself. Sensing that, Fader talked with me for another 2 hours after we got back to the hotel to solve my inner game issues. He went out of his way for me.


    Saturday

    We were debriefed first thing Saturday. The takeaway for every student was to push their boundaries. And then Fader covered attraction, transition, and qualification. Qualification was split into Sunday as well. By this time, all students were tired and Fader told us to just relax before the infield.

    We went to the same bar again, and this night was a huge success for every student. I think everyone opened a good amount of sets. I started the night with a couple of approaches that I didnít care about to get my energy going, and soon I didnít care about any of my approaches. I approached a married girl and had 10 minute conversation with her. I approached a two set, with boyfriends that came over during the conversation. One of them gave me a hug. Later that night, we got a table and I started talking to a group of girls that walked by. One of them was somewhat hostile towards me. But I stuck by my ďIím just having fun and being socialĒ frame, and before I know it, I was qualifying her. Fader made me sit the girl down, and I had a great conversation with the girl, including complimenting her off qualification. Her friends ended leaving, but she stayed for a bit long so I could phone close her. All the students kept on opening, pulling other students into sets and pushing each other. At one point, we had so many girls at our table that Fader called our table management a mess. Iím going to reframe it as a good problem that I never had in my life. Fader was rocking a pink shirt that night and was plotting all night about how to get another guy with a pink shirt thrown out. And Fader picked a girl inadvertently while winging for a student. She was offended that Fader didnít take down her number.

    Strip club on the second night was uneventful. We had less than 2 hours and it was too busy for any stripper to come by. Fader spent the time trying to pick up a prostitute (we actually saw her exchange money and walk out with a guy). Except Fader didnít speak her language. He kept on poking her and she kept on trying to freeze him out. Except Fader doesnít care and she ended up walking out. Fader did pull a girl at the hotel into his room to help his needs after the strip club. Oh, he also phone closed a waitress at the hotel. I was being stupid and decided to pass up that meal opportunity to watch.


    Sunday

    More debriefing, with Fader proud of everyone. Covered some more qualification, comfort, fashion, and logistics. He gave his closing arguments, which was very inspirational at the time, but is now a blur to me. At this point, we were all very tired. An old student of Faderís came by and two students went out with them to have lunch. We witnessed Fader pick up a girl in day game at the restaurant. During lunch, there were two dating couples having lunch at tables next to ours. The girls looked bored out of their minds, and it finally hit me that I will never be that guy boring a girl to death ever again. Fader actually thought one of them was pretty and strangely enough that one started playing eye games with me. There are three problems with this. 1) I am tired as hell, 2) I donít know how to play eye games, and 3) she wasnít my type. When she finally left with her date, she looked me in the eyes and kinda gave a shrug. Like I understood her reality, which after this weekend, maybe I do, just a little bit. And then Fader gave me more encouraging words and his old student took him to the airport. Before he left, he showed me a facebook update he was posting. It said something to the effect of ďmade 4 new friends this weekendĒ.



    I would call Faderís bootcamp life changing, but Fader told me not to. Because he believes that after his bootcamp, you still need to work. But at the end of the bootcamp, I felt like I can do this. That I can pickup any girl. And not in some delusional logical self-rationalizing way, but a belief at my core. This bootcamp was better than a 10. Fader pours his soul into his bootcamp, and it will make you better. And I formed life long friendships with Fader and other students.

    So stop reading this and go take Faderís bootcamp. Itís absolutely worth it. Keep an open mind and try everything Fader tells you because Fader *is* always right on his bootcamps. And rest well before the bootcamp, because you are going on one hell of a rollercoaster ride and you will be better because of it.

    Fader, thank you so much. Iím gonna work my ass off, so one day I can tell you that Iím living up to my full potential because of your inspiration. Oh, Iím working on the exercises too

    Finally, I want to give a shout out to Phero for pushing me to take this bootcamp which I might not have taken otherwise.

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    Before I get to the body of the review, I want to clarify what the purpose of the bootcamp is. The bootcamp alone will not turn you into a super PUA. It will require lots of practice (months to years of actual practice for me anyway). The purpose of the bootcamp is to give you the blue print and starting you on your path. The purpose of the bootcamp is about bringing out the best in you. Your success will depend on your effort and determination, but the bootcamp is a great way to lay the foundations. Romance was the only major aspect of my life that I didnít feel that I was in control of. After the bootcamp, I feel that I can succeed in that aspect.

    Fader is a great instructor. All LS instructors have game, but Fader truly cares about you as a student, a person, and eventually a friend. After the first night infield, I was discouraged by my (self perceived lack of) progress. My approach anxiety made my openers sound mechanical, and several girls called me out on it. One cougar that I approached earlier actually came by to pick on me, but Faderís got my back and booted her out. We got back to the hotel at 4am, and Fader talked to me to fix my inner game issues until 6am and he was willing to work with me for as long as it took. Heís been teaching in class room and in field for over 14 hours, and he was still willing to spend as much time with me as needed to help me get better. You simply will not find an instructor that cares more. And it paid off for me the next night, where I opened 10-15 sets and phone closed a cute girl, while totally winging everything beyond the opener and transition. I was able to do this because Fader made me believe that I can do it (inner game). He was as excited for me as I was on the second night and gave me a huge hug.


    Detailed Review:
    Friday

    The content of in class teaching was similar to what I expected overall except Fader places great emphasis on teaching inner game. He started day one by talking about his transformation, spent most of day one on inner game issues, and then covered learning skills and opening/transition. Not enough emphasis can be placed on inner game (see the difference between night 1 me and night 2 me). The learning skill portion is also particularly valuable. I learned things from both the inner game and learning skill portion that will greatly help me in life (and I consider myself successful in life prior to bootcamp).

    Then, Fader took us to a local bar. He phone closed two waitresses during a fairly busy night as the above student said. But what impressed me the most in retrospect is how he handled failure. Fader opened a two set directly, and one of the girls had a fiancť who came over after the approach. Fader was completely cool and ejected from set. It didnít bother him. And why should it? I struggled the first night. I was not very natural in my openers and I let the poor openers shake me. A pair of cougars totally saw my doubt and one of them came by to pick on me later in the night. Fader let me attempt to handle the situation until I canít and ejected her. It was kinda funny because we were simultaneously throwing two frames on her. Fader took me around for a few sets to settle my nerves. I ended my night at the bar by opening a 7 directly. It hooked and I was in conversation for a few minutes, and then ejected when she called over her male friend, which turned out to be a mistake confirmed by the surprise on her face when I did it and later by Fader.

    Next, we went to a strip club. Fader taught us strip club game during the ride. I have never been to a strip club prior to this and it was overwhelming at first. The night was going pretty slow at first and the strippers avoided Fader for the entire night (we were joking that his picture was up in the back). He did pick up a waitress, which was pretty cool. Later in the night, two strippers came by. One got picked up by another student. He had that stripper in the palm of his hand by the end of the night. She was actually crying because he really connected with her. He should tell the whole story. The other stripper was working the rest of the students. She ended up on me last. Here I was, in a strip club for the first time in my life, not having spent a single dollar beyond the cover, and now with a pretty stripper on me. Realizing that I have nothing to lose, I started trying to pick her up using Faderís advice. I started qualifying her and directing the conversation where I wanted it to go (which was food. We were talking about what the name of her favorite dish should be, which Iím actually going to try to make this weekend because it sounds delicious). She was with me for about 10 minutes before her friend enticed her away with large amounts of cash. Fader later told me that I was doing well, but that particular situation was unwinnable. The experience also taught me a lot about approaches. Here are strippers who approach men every night. And they are pretty and naked. Yet, they are nervous to approach you without a pretext, and alcohol, and maybe drugs.

    I was actually doing quite well toward the end of the night, but at the time, I was disappointed with myself. Sensing that, Fader talked with me for another 2 hours after we got back to the hotel to solve my inner game issues. He went out of his way for me.


    Saturday

    We were debriefed first thing Saturday. The takeaway for every student was to push their boundaries. And then Fader covered attraction, transition, and qualification. Qualification was split into Sunday as well. By this time, all students were tired and Fader told us to just relax before the infield.

    We went to the same bar again, and this night was a huge success for every student. I think everyone opened a good amount of sets. I started the night with a couple of approaches that I didnít care about to get my energy going, and soon I didnít care about any of my approaches. I approached a married girl and had 10 minute conversation with her. I approached a two set, with boyfriends that came over during the conversation. One of them gave me a hug. Later that night, we got a table and I started talking to a group of girls that walked by. One of them was somewhat hostile towards me. But I stuck by my ďIím just having fun and being socialĒ frame, and before I know it, I was qualifying her. Fader made me sit the girl down, and I had a great conversation with the girl, including complimenting her off qualification. Her friends ended leaving, but she stayed for a bit long so I could phone close her. All the students kept on opening, pulling other students into sets and pushing each other. At one point, we had so many girls at our table that Fader called our table management a mess. Iím going to reframe it as a good problem that I never had in my life. Fader was rocking a pink shirt that night and was plotting all night about how to get another guy with a pink shirt thrown out. And Fader picked a girl inadvertently while winging for a student. She was offended that Fader didnít take down her number.

    Strip club on the second night was uneventful. We had less than 2 hours and it was too busy for any stripper to come by. Fader spent the time trying to pick up a prostitute (we actually saw her exchange money and walk out with a guy). Except Fader didnít speak her language. He kept on poking her and she kept on trying to freeze him out. Except Fader doesnít care and she ended up walking out. Fader did pull a girl at the hotel into his room to help his needs after the strip club. Oh, he also phone closed a waitress at the hotel. I was being stupid and decided to pass up that meal opportunity to watch.


    Sunday

    More debriefing, with Fader proud of everyone. Covered some more qualification, comfort, fashion, and logistics. He gave his closing arguments, which was very inspirational at the time, but is now a blur to me. At this point, we were all very tired. An old student of Faderís came by and two students went out with them to have lunch. We witnessed Fader pick up a girl in day game at the restaurant. During lunch, there were two dating couples having lunch at tables next to ours. The girls looked bored out of their minds, and it finally hit me that I will never be that guy boring a girl to death ever again. Fader actually thought one of them was pretty and strangely enough that one started playing eye games with me. There are three problems with this. 1) I am tired as hell, 2) I donít know how to play eye games, and 3) she wasnít my type. When she finally left with her date, she looked me in the eyes and kinda gave a shrug. Like I understood her reality, which after this weekend, maybe I do, just a little bit. And then Fader gave me more encouraging words and his old student took him to the airport. Before he left, he showed me a facebook update he was posting. It said something to the effect of ďmade 4 new friends this weekendĒ.



    I would call Faderís bootcamp life changing, but Fader told me not to. Because he believes that after his bootcamp, you still need to work. But at the end of the bootcamp, I felt like I can do this. That I can pickup any girl. And not in some delusional logical self-rationalizing way, but a belief at my core. This bootcamp was better than a 10. Fader pours his soul into his bootcamp, and it will make you better. And I formed life long friendships with Fader and other students.

    So stop reading this and go take Faderís bootcamp. Itís absolutely worth it. Keep an open mind and try everything Fader tells you because Fader *is* always right on his bootcamps. And rest well before the bootcamp, because you are going on one hell of a rollercoaster ride and you will be better because of it.

    Fader, thank you so much. Iím gonna work my ass off, so one day I can tell you that Iím living up to my full potential because of your inspiration. Oh, Iím working on the exercises too

    Finally, I want to give a shout out to Phero for pushing me to take this bootcamp which I might not have taken otherwise.

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    This was a really great workshop. I am still in touch with 3 out of the 4 students and everyone is moving forward. I had a ton of fun I will never forget putting that cougar in her place when she was like why do you have so much grey hair. "Because jesus hates me." Ha hows that for frame control and handling tests. I actually got to see one of you guys last time I was in Atlanta (during the workshop that didnt happen). As a teacher it is a great feeling still being in touch with everyone and watching everyone progress at their own pace. Almost like a proud parent I would guess. I will be back in the ATL next year and guess what? I found an afterhours club that so means the last night will go to 5 am #play2win
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