Like Tree3Likes
  • 1 Post By zman
  • 1 Post By Fader
  • 1 Post By Jeremy Soul

Soul's Day Game Workshop: Chicago, April, 2011

Discuss Soul's Day Game Workshop: Chicago, April, 2011 at the Love Systems Reviews within the The Attraction Forums. Dating Advice.; Soul's Day Game Workshop: Chicago, April, 2011 After taking Soul’s workshop, I will never again ...

Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    zman's Avatar
    zman is offline Certified Live Training Graduate Lounge Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender:
    Posts
    133
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Soul's Day Game Workshop: Chicago, April, 2011

    After taking Soul’s workshop, I will never again say that nice guys finish last. Part of Soul’s strategy it that he’s friendly at the same time that he is so confident. He could probably mug me and I would still walk away with a smile. Being kind, genuine, and funny works amazingly well during the daytime.

    I definitely recommend the workshop. Day game has far fewer routines to fall back on. As a result, individual calibration is much more crucial during the day than at night. I’m not giving up night game (You inspired me, Fader!) but I think day game is going to fit my personality a lot more.

    In Field Review:

    Friday I was on fire. My approach anxiety was gone. I was surprised how easy it was to generate attraction during the day. It’s amazing how instructors’ feedback can be the complete opposite of what you expect. I’m a pretty easy conversationalist, and I thought that was good for me. I was surprised when Big Business told me I needed to be more minimalist and a bit more self deprecating. Once I added a few pauses into my approaches things went much better “Excuse me (1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, 3-Mississippi). I just saw you walking past…” He also caught some issues with my posture. I was overcompensating insecurity by leaning too far back. The next set I did was awesome the girl ate out of my hand as she put her first AND last name into my phone. Saturday she was texting me trying to meet up that afternoon. Too bad I was busy with other endeavors.

    Also, locking in is a night game tactic. Scrap it during the day. Those were MY sticking points. Yours are probably completely different, but you’ll never know until an instructor tells you.

    Finally, expect to be blown out for no reason. I had several interactions where Big Business told me that I hadn’t really done anything wrong. Even Soul got blown out. To be fair, the girl he approached still melted in his presence, but she was already taken. Soul told us that even at his level, he has to approach about 30 girls to sleep with one. (Since I first posted the review, Soul has clarified, that it's 30 approaches during an off day or a dip. Still keep in mind that day game is REALLY a numbers game.)

    Saturday, I don’t know what came over me. I was nervous as fuck. As much as I wanted to impress Soul, it was better for him to see me do badly so he could correct specific problems. I won’t bore you with my body language problems when I’m nervous, but it’s pretty bad. I had to keep rehearsing, approaching Soul as though he were a hot girl. At one point Soul held my shoulders in place while I hit on him. You’ve heard that the words you speak are only 7% of communication. Guess what? I went back into set, and paid so much attention to my body language that I was tongue tied. You know what happened? My sets went better. To give you a sense of what a night and day change body language makes, my mom visited me after the workshop was over. She had no idea what I was doing this weekend, but she commented how good I looked and how much taller I seemed to be.

    Furthermore, I thought logistics didn’t matter much during the day. Boy was I wrong. I had to chuckle as I watched Soul stalk his prey for a few city blocks before finding the perfect opportunity to approach. He had to wait for a moment where he could isolate the girl and not be inundated with oncoming pedestrians.

    Classroom Time Review:

    The classroom time wasn’t as productive as I would like. This is more of a criticism of Love Systems in general. I would rather LS expect us to have read Magic Bullets/Daytime Dating before a bootcamp/day game workshop. The instructors’ time is so precious that there is no reason to squander it by rehashing what’s already been written elsewhere. It would be more valuable to use that time for individual feedback and questions.

    The classroom time that was individualized was pretty incredible. At one point Soul gave us a madlibs exercise. We picked a random word and he promised to find a way to transition it into a DHV story. I was a complete jackass and gave him the word “bamboozle.” Soul still found a way to transition it. Incredible!

    A lot of day game is about leading an interesting life and being able to talk about it. If you struggle to tell new people what you do for fun and what makes you click, then you should also take the workshop. For me, that wasn’t as much of a sticking point, so that portion of the classroom time wasn’t quite as valuable to me, but I still received useful feedback.

    When to take the workshop:

    Love Systems will of course tell you to take a workshop as soon as possible. I don’t think that’s always the best advice. If you are shy and have a hard time talking with people, work on that first. Go to happy hours, maybe take an improv class. Get a little more comfortable in your own skin. After that, the instructors can spend their time giving your more advanced feedback when you do take the plunge.

    You need to spend a few weeks absorbing Soul’s Daytime Dating book. He spends some time in the workshop brainstorming ideas about what he calls “mastery topics.” You should really have those ideas planned out before you arrive at the workshop, so again, you can work on more advanced topics.

    Bootcamp or Day Game Workshop?

    I took both, and I recommend both. But not everybody can drop $6,000 in such a short time.

    If you’re really nervous with women, I would suggest doing a boot camp first. I flip flopped on my position as I wrote this review, but I’m sticking with this answer. I really feel like day game is where I’m going to shine. Having said that, I don’t think I would be able to persevere with day game without having first practiced in bars.

    My inner game was royally fucked up when I walked into Fader’s bootcamp five months ago. The routines and structure of bar game allowed me to get much more experience flirting with girls for longer periods, seeing them laugh at my teases, flip their hair, giggle, touch me back, kiss me, etc. Don’t get me wrong, you can see those things during the day, but it’s much rarer. So if a person hasn’t had that experience, I don’t know if they could handle the constant rejection that comes with day game.



  2. #2
    Fader's Avatar
    Fader is offline Love Systems Instructor & Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Gender:
    Location
    keepin nyc / nj dancers in check
    Posts
    3,835
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Hahaha thanks bro & keep making me proud. Remember i have dibs on all short colombians (preferably with big fake boobs)
    View Full Profile: Click Here 190 reviews later: http://www.theattractionforums.com/t...iew_fader.html (watch my journey from student to approach coach, to instructor, to master instructor, to stripper destroyer).

    Best quote from a workshop review ever "Overall this bootcamp was a short colombian 10, his teaching ability is a 10, and his game is a 10."

    Follow me on twitter or Strippers will be punished: @ls_fader #thefadershow


    My Bootcamp Schedule:
    12/19: Strippers & Hired Guns Las Vegas (SOLD OUT), 02/06: San Francisco (4 Seats Available), 02/13: Orlando (4 Seats Available), 02/22: Charlotte (4 Seats Available), 03/27: Strippers & Hired Guns, Las Vegas (3 Seats Available), 04/17: Tuscon (4 Seats Available), 04/24: Chicago (4 Seats Available),

    Don't Be A Victim (click, read & change your life)

    play2win
    : There comes a point in everyone's life where they either have their dreams or the reasons they dont. You're the hero of your own story..... write a good one.

    Try Walking In My Shoes
    You'll Stumble In My Footsteps

  3. #3
    Jeremy Soul is offline Certified Live Training Graduate Lounge Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Gender:
    Location
    London
    Age
    31
    Posts
    416
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Thanks man! You guys were a great group, and you made great improvements. I know you'd already been working on yourself a lot. I look forward to seeing what you can do another year from now!

    Soul told us that even at his level, he has to approach about 30 girls to sleep with one.
    I said sometimes it can take up to this many, if you're in a dip or in a tough environment
    Dating Coach, Love Systems

    Day Game Workshop reviews. 1-on-1 Review.

    Daytime Dating - the best Day Game resource in the world

    Daily advice & tips on my Twitter (you're mad not to be on this)

    Bigger articles at www.lifewithsoul.com, and you can Facebook like me too.

    Jeremy Soul in the Media - Background - Classic Writings - PUA Internship Programs

    "Jeremy Soul really is a cocktail of awesome. He has charisma, enthusiasm and an amazing ability to keep a positive attitude regardless of the situation. But below all that you can't ignore the overwhelming desire that this guy has to succeed. He makes no bones about the effort he's had to put in or the shit tonne of hard work and heartbreak that inevitably arose along the way, but it was impossible for that mindset for success not to rub off on me." - The Aston

    Voted No. 1 Dating Coach at the PUA Super Conference 2008 and No. 2 at the Super Conference 2009

  4. #4
    Swamp is offline Certified Live Training Graduate Lounge Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Gender:
    Location
    Hamilton, New Zealand
    Age
    26
    Posts
    5
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Soul's Day Game Workshop Review : Chicago, April, 2011

    Realizing that I needed additional guidance in my love life, as well as learn how to pick up women in the daytime, I decided to take Soul's Day Game Workshop. Prior to the workshop, I read Magic Bullets, and Soul's Daytime Dating book, which made it much easier to absorb the knowledge throughout the weekend.

    In the Classroom:
    Soul threw plenty of great knowledge our way on day game, and inner game. When it came down to the information, he broke it down to us in the simplest terms, and was glad to throw down some more knowledge when students had questions. What I enjoyed most about the classroom sessions were Soul's ability to transition random words to stories about his mastery topics, which comes in handy early-on during the approach.

    In-Field:
    On the first day, I had Big Business as my in-field instructor, and Soul on my second day. Both were great to work with. Not only did they correct our bad habits [posture, not asking for phone #s, when to approach the set, etc.], but they were cool to be around [storytelling, optimistic, etc.]. Thanks to them, I've gotten rid of my approach anxiety, and I got a few number closes. I wasn't able to have Nick Hoss as an in-field instructor, but he threw plenty of story-telling/mastery topic knowledge @ me during an in-field break. Good stuff!

    Overall:
    Thanks to the workshop, I now know where I stand on skill level. I also learned what my sticking points are [holding a conversation in 2+ people sets, transitioning any topic to a mastery topic, and qualifying women], and what actions I need to take to get rid of them. Not only that, but I've obtained a new way of thinking, and understand that living a fun and exciting life is the way to go! I would recommend this shop to anyone looking to improve their game!

  5. #5
    zman's Avatar
    zman is offline Certified Live Training Graduate Lounge Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Gender:
    Posts
    133
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    I should have figured "swamp" would be your handle on the forum, LOL.

    Two post scripts to my original review.

    1) Awesome classmates. Everybody in the classroom was perfectly normal and well adjusted. I would lend any of you guys the keys to my car (assuming you can drive stick).

    2) I am still going back and forth on bootcamp vs. day game workshop. If you enjoy the bar scene in general - do the bootcamp. However, most of us probably see bars as a means to an end. So if you're comfortable joking and teasing women in your own social circle (which I was NOT) then do the day game workshop first. That will do enough for your confidence that magic bullets will fill you in on bar game tactics. Day game will obliterate your nighttime approach anxiety. The converse is not true. I never had the balls to go direct at bars. After our first day in field "swamp" and I went to a bar in Chicago. Our direct openers worked amazingly well. "Hey, you girls looked cute and my friend 'swamp' and I wanted to see if you were cool as well." They invited us to sit down.

  6. #6
    Jeremy Soul is offline Certified Live Training Graduate Lounge Member
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Gender:
    Location
    London
    Age
    31
    Posts
    416
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Haha yes, Swamp keep me posted on how Korea goes - interested to hear!
    Dating Coach, Love Systems

    Day Game Workshop reviews. 1-on-1 Review.

    Daytime Dating - the best Day Game resource in the world

    Daily advice & tips on my Twitter (you're mad not to be on this)

    Bigger articles at www.lifewithsoul.com, and you can Facebook like me too.

    Jeremy Soul in the Media - Background - Classic Writings - PUA Internship Programs

    "Jeremy Soul really is a cocktail of awesome. He has charisma, enthusiasm and an amazing ability to keep a positive attitude regardless of the situation. But below all that you can't ignore the overwhelming desire that this guy has to succeed. He makes no bones about the effort he's had to put in or the shit tonne of hard work and heartbreak that inevitably arose along the way, but it was impossible for that mindset for success not to rub off on me." - The Aston

    Voted No. 1 Dating Coach at the PUA Super Conference 2008 and No. 2 at the Super Conference 2009

Similar Threads

  1. Jeremy Soul Day Game Workshop - Sydney, April 2011
    By Xanatos in forum Love Systems Reviews
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-13-2011, 02:57 AM
  2. Jeremy Soul Day Game Workshop - San Francisco, March 2011
    By AKbaby in forum Love Systems Reviews
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 04-10-2011, 03:28 PM
  3. Big Business Humor Workshop - Chicago, April 2011
    By jonsey in forum Love Systems Reviews
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-07-2011, 06:29 AM
  4. Jeremy Soul Day Game Workshop - Sydney, April 2010
    By sorge in forum Love Systems Reviews
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-14-2010, 12:40 AM
  5. Jeremy Soul Day Game Workshop - Chicago, August 2008
    By ttiger in forum Love Systems Reviews
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-21-2008, 08:08 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  • Forum Rules

Recommended


Daytime Dating



Magic Bullets



Beyond Words



Love Systems Routines Manual



The Ultimate Guide to Text and Phone Game



Interview Series



Love Systems Relationship Management



Love Systems Program Schedule





Facebook  Twitter