After taking Soul’s workshop, I will never again say that nice guys finish last. Part of Soul’s strategy it that he’s friendly at the same time that he is so confident. He could probably mug me and I would still walk away with a smile. Being kind, genuine, and funny works amazingly well during the daytime.
Soul's Day Game Workshop: Chicago, April, 2011
I definitely recommend the workshop. Day game has far fewer routines to fall back on. As a result, individual calibration is much more crucial during the day than at night. I’m not giving up night game (You inspired me, Fader!) but I think day game is going to fit my personality a lot more.
In Field Review:
Friday I was on fire. My approach anxiety was gone. I was surprised how easy it was to generate attraction during the day. It’s amazing how instructors’ feedback can be the complete opposite of what you expect. I’m a pretty easy conversationalist, and I thought that was good for me. I was surprised when Big Business told me I needed to be more minimalist and a bit more self deprecating. Once I added a few pauses into my approaches things went much better “Excuse me (1-Mississippi, 2-Mississippi, 3-Mississippi). I just saw you walking past…” He also caught some issues with my posture. I was overcompensating insecurity by leaning too far back. The next set I did was awesome the girl ate out of my hand as she put her first AND last name into my phone. Saturday she was texting me trying to meet up that afternoon. Too bad I was busy with other endeavors.
Also, locking in is a night game tactic. Scrap it during the day. Those were MY sticking points. Yours are probably completely different, but you’ll never know until an instructor tells you.
Finally, expect to be blown out for no reason. I had several interactions where Big Business told me that I hadn’t really done anything wrong. Even Soul got blown out. To be fair, the girl he approached still melted in his presence, but she was already taken. Soul told us that even at his level, he has to approach about 30 girls to sleep with one. (Since I first posted the review, Soul has clarified, that it's 30 approaches during an off day or a dip. Still keep in mind that day game is REALLY a numbers game.)
Saturday, I don’t know what came over me. I was nervous as fuck. As much as I wanted to impress Soul, it was better for him to see me do badly so he could correct specific problems. I won’t bore you with my body language problems when I’m nervous, but it’s pretty bad. I had to keep rehearsing, approaching Soul as though he were a hot girl. At one point Soul held my shoulders in place while I hit on him. You’ve heard that the words you speak are only 7% of communication. Guess what? I went back into set, and paid so much attention to my body language that I was tongue tied. You know what happened? My sets went better. To give you a sense of what a night and day change body language makes, my mom visited me after the workshop was over. She had no idea what I was doing this weekend, but she commented how good I looked and how much taller I seemed to be.
Furthermore, I thought logistics didn’t matter much during the day. Boy was I wrong. I had to chuckle as I watched Soul stalk his prey for a few city blocks before finding the perfect opportunity to approach. He had to wait for a moment where he could isolate the girl and not be inundated with oncoming pedestrians.
Classroom Time Review:
The classroom time wasn’t as productive as I would like. This is more of a criticism of Love Systems in general. I would rather LS expect us to have read Magic Bullets/Daytime Dating before a bootcamp/day game workshop. The instructors’ time is so precious that there is no reason to squander it by rehashing what’s already been written elsewhere. It would be more valuable to use that time for individual feedback and questions.
The classroom time that was individualized was pretty incredible. At one point Soul gave us a madlibs exercise. We picked a random word and he promised to find a way to transition it into a DHV story. I was a complete jackass and gave him the word “bamboozle.” Soul still found a way to transition it. Incredible!
A lot of day game is about leading an interesting life and being able to talk about it. If you struggle to tell new people what you do for fun and what makes you click, then you should also take the workshop. For me, that wasn’t as much of a sticking point, so that portion of the classroom time wasn’t quite as valuable to me, but I still received useful feedback.
When to take the workshop:
Love Systems will of course tell you to take a workshop as soon as possible. I don’t think that’s always the best advice. If you are shy and have a hard time talking with people, work on that first. Go to happy hours, maybe take an improv class. Get a little more comfortable in your own skin. After that, the instructors can spend their time giving your more advanced feedback when you do take the plunge.
You need to spend a few weeks absorbing Soul’s Daytime Dating book. He spends some time in the workshop brainstorming ideas about what he calls “mastery topics.” You should really have those ideas planned out before you arrive at the workshop, so again, you can work on more advanced topics.
Bootcamp or Day Game Workshop?
I took both, and I recommend both. But not everybody can drop $6,000 in such a short time.
If you’re really nervous with women, I would suggest doing a boot camp first. I flip flopped on my position as I wrote this review, but I’m sticking with this answer. I really feel like day game is where I’m going to shine. Having said that, I don’t think I would be able to persevere with day game without having first practiced in bars.
My inner game was royally fucked up when I walked into Fader’s bootcamp five months ago. The routines and structure of bar game allowed me to get much more experience flirting with girls for longer periods, seeing them laugh at my teases, flip their hair, giggle, touch me back, kiss me, etc. Don’t get me wrong, you can see those things during the day, but it’s much rarer. So if a person hasn’t had that experience, I don’t know if they could handle the constant rejection that comes with day game.