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The seminar started of with 5.0 ...
5.0 & Bonsai's Mini Seminar - Amsterdam, August 2010
The seminar started of with 5.0 talking about daygame. 5.0, guy from london with some proper britisch humour. Hes really fast and sharp with his liners and you can just tell he has loads of expierce in game.
Him talking about daygame, was really motivating me. Iv read somestuff and saw some clips online about it but him actually telling me in person about it and seeing him do some aproach tactics really inspired me to actually start doing it mysef. Im alright with nightgame but never actually really got into daygame but i will definatly do now and thats already worth the price of this seminar (40euro) for me.
Bonsai was over to do his talk about hired guns. Bonsai was suposed to talk about how to pick up strippers as well, But getting into that, he got some feedback that theres quit some culture difference between US and Dutch strippers. Tactics you can use in the States dont really work in Holland because strippers work in a total different setting over here. Skipping trough this he started talking about hired guns, bartenders, waitresses and girls who work in shops. He gave allot of specific practical details what will bring your game on this to the next level. Also he was a very good listener and he was very open for feedback and answering questions.
After the seminar, you could actually ask both guys questions about any subject and they would give you a decent answer on it what was also apreciated.
Overal i think the seminar was worth it for me. I read MB and allot of the stuff i had allready read about. But its the details what made this seminar stand out. This seminar was for me a huge motivation boost to take my game to the next level! Also this is a place to meet wings who are in the community!
5.0/Bonsai thanks again! For the guys who didnt attent this seminar. It is really worth attending one! Savoy! your instructors rock, give them a raise :P
The Slick Asian and the Smoooothe Brit! Review Amsterdam Seminar by 5.0 and Bonsai,,
Sunday 22 August, 12:00 PM.
I arrieved at The Roos te P.C. Hooftsraat Amsterdam, walk in and see an odd combination off pretty well dressed men, standing outside chitchatting and inside sitting around a table. My approach, I walk straight passed them to get myself a cappucino at the cafeteria, and over my shoulder "Hey, you guys quick question... You'all here for the Seminar?". I Pulled up a chair, Introduced myself as Thomas and then conversations got interesting, everyone started introducing themselfs and sharing stories about how they got there, what they did, and how they did it.
This funnylooking Asian kid with a nice but scruffy striped shirt walks up to us, wearing his tie loosely projecting a collage Van Wilder goes to China type look. "All of you here for the Seminar? Grab your tickets and Follow me". People start getting up to go to the LS Seminar room, as I introduce myself to Thanh and join the rest of the (strangly) not so obviously looking PUA's and aPUA's alike in line. The strange thing here... I expected to see a shit load of skinny looking nerds with goggles, feathers and all of them showing off their magic trick to one another... This was definitly not the case! These guys were well dressed, some blazers here and there, others with nice shirts and jacket's (most things designer), one guy wearing a black Micheal J hat, and a few armbands and necklesses, all of these guys wearing beautiful time gear.
5 Minutes later...
Every one is seated and this British looking guy introduces himself as Steve (5.0) and Thanh (a.k.a. Bonsai). Then he procedes to tell us "Today were gonna talk about Hired Guns, Strippers and stuff like that", "This is the first time we talked in Europe, first time we worked together since the Super Conference", "We usually talk Deep Comfort, and the next time we'll do some Deep comfort aswell. We don't do Seminars alot, so we hope weŽll get some good value out of this", "We may or may not take questions at the end, depending on the scedule". Thanh in Dutch "I speak regular Dutch, the Seminar will be mostly in English, but for you I'll try and speak some Dutch". They continue on to tell us what they're gonna talk about, they asked us about skill levels, some personal things like the amount of approaches... etc. Turns out, no real AFC in the room.
5.0 was up first. This guy, energetic like you stuck a Picachu up his ass and yet and smoothe like 007 Roger More style... He laid out in detail, each and every aspect of Daygame he possibly could have. From bodylanguage, to mirroring, to a slight bit of NLP, a Shit Load of coolness straight from antartica and lines that will make you lose your breakfast milk thru your nose. The whole time he talked he was actively demonstrating, giving us live examples, awnsering any questions (if you were polite enough to raise your hand, like in kindergarden). This guy even made a guy in the first row stand up to demonstrate a correctly performed street approach, and then he ended up helping the guy with body posture, his failure to correctly demand attention, and overal lack of street game... giving a great way to do open "by the book", lol. And 5 minutes later, the guy (guinypig) was improving bodylanguage, approach skill, attention getting succes, overal finess RIGHT INFRONT OF OUR EYES! This was a truely remarkable thing to see.
Next, He talks about innergame. Conter-Intuetive stuff (which is good regarding being a PUA means, being the peaCOCK that stands out from the masses of drones, robots and other AFC's), he told us about differences between Mystery Method and Love Systems, The intire Emotional Progress system wass discussed (exept for the last bit) and how... I regret to say this... MM is out-dated (NOT TO Say that it's still not gold...), but this stuff was Platinum Membersclub Value.
Time blazing on, but I was getting hungry. It still took about 30 minutes for 5 minute break time to come. Steve had succeeded in captivate the attention of 60 guys for 2 hours straight, and he was a good teacher (not the type that demands you do your homework, makes you stay late in detention, spanks you around, lol. But rather the funny/cool one who, your sorry to hear, is retireing next year... Always creating some extra time, helping you out with a specific problem. Not telling you to DAFS or RTFM...). Is he a player? Nope, he doesn't play others... He's a sportsman, he plays a Gentlemans Game.
Bonsai. The name says it all... This guy is like a little Asian Tree with an BIG value. He walks up, start talking in Dutch (poorly at first, but in 5 minutes he was up to PAR, haha just messing lol). "Stripper-game and Hired Gun-Game, that's what I specialise in". He covered every little aspect of stipper game, psychology, special tricks, NEG's, DHV's, Chopping Block Game (the funniest, saddest thing ever, this you have to DAFS for!), and how to continue on, also with the "reverse" and all. True that Stripper game is not truely applicable in the Netherlands due to the different type of culture, we have Legal Prostitution, no need for strippers to get off on. I also asked this question, and heard that it's not yet covered in Pick-Up, but that another LS Instruction PUA had accomplished this (true be it that prostitution is illigal in the US, and other Countries).
Then we started hearing about Hired Gun's, and believe it or not, if you get the LS basics on this, it is in principle unbelievably easy in theory. About the different types and difficulty levels: Barbabe is harder than waitress chick, waitress chick is harder than storegirl. How to work you being the customer as an advantage, the best ways to PRG, the usage of (in)voluntary pivots, and the type game you can best run on them in different situations, Also about P/P and types of hoops. This Stuff was deep, real deep, and the way they managed to cover the subjects and make these complex concepts understandable.
Another 1.7 hours went by as fast as lightning...
After great depth by the Far Out, Far East, 5.0 was up again. "We now have time for some Q&A"... This was the most useful bit of Information Source on the planet, Really... Fuck GOOGLE.COW. Each question was thuroughly analised by the now proven more than sufficiantly adecuate Love Systems Instructors, then directly applicalbe suggestions and toughtthru awnsers were given. If you ever get to a LS Seminar, Pay Close attention to every word, record it, and be in anticipation of the Q&A.
A Thundering aplause fills the air as the show is over. Everybody gets up, and most of us went over to Steve an Thanh to thank them. To also get some additional advise (which they brilliantly gave), thank them personally for awnsering their questions and generally for the Ancient Wisdom Education (Awe) now passed onto us. We exited, vacating the premesise. SuperFit, M and myself engaged in conversation with 5.0 and Bonsai. Then we sadly parted from these AMAZING guys... After they were out of sight, x Says to me "what about that Bonsai huh?" I was like "Yeah, I know Exactly what you mean...", "He walks and talks like an Average...uhm kid, a bit college quiet type... But the moment this guy opens his mouth about Pick Up, he changes. There's like a Mr. Myjagi Sensai thing going on there, like Reffin' AFC Goku going MPUA SuperSayen 3", "Yeah.. I know, strange isn't it".
The three of us went for some Chinees, to discuss WTF just had happend, and let it sipel in.
And that was the Amsterdam Seminar of 22nd of August 2010... @LS staff: get your asses to scedule these guys and more of em here (*kuch, I mean Please get...).
I Sertainly won't pass up the chance for a Love Systems Bootcamp once I become a Millionair!
Greetings from Holland!
Last edited by Daze Perdurabo; 08-23-2010 at 08:45 PM.
Lol you make laugh Daze! Very good review, your way in telling stories is awesome :P It was nice to meet you
thnx bro, you to. I guess another good thing about these seminars is that it brings out the best wingmen. See you soon in Amsterdam man .
I agree with the others. This seminar is very good value for money, especially if you're new to the field like me. 5.0 gave a 2 hour talk on basic knowledge, like how to atract, how to not get into the friend zone. Mirroring, incredibly inspiring and he makes you want to do stuff immediately. Nice guy who knows what he is talking about. Has a lot of humour too.
Bonsai showed a more advanced class LA style regarding strippers and hired guns. Interesting for those who are into this, but as previously mentioned this is more of an LA type of game. He told us a few good tricks how to have fun with women. He was also very willing to help people with personal questions.
I was happy to spend my sunday afternoon with these guys !
Nice review man, can't wait to join a seminar in holland like this
Wow some awesome feedback guys, thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts!
I love Amsterdam and will definitely be back soon
Nice to see that you liked it, and great hearing from you man!
thnx, and if your here please contact us, I personally have been gaming NON-STOP (not even going out to game, just in the train, on the street @ the club... wherever I happen to be, lol) and stuff is going well, and I feel that things are getting better and better.
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