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    The Don & Mr M Bootcamp - Stockholm, July 2010

    It was fun.



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    Haha, just trippin', I will post a more elaborate and serious post soon guys.

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    LOL!

    Ah Chillance, I finally meet you in person
    Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

    - Theodore Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr M View Post
    LOL!

    Ah Chillance, I finally meet you in person
    Hehe, not disappointed I hope

    I'm glad I met a Legend!

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    Wow! Well, I was expecting Mr. M and The Don there, and really not much more. And BAM! A few Rockstars show up, plus a few approach coaches! Fu-k me! Talk about excellent help ratio. Rokker showed up too, which was awesome! We were just missing a few HB's... No, but seriously, it would probably have been more natural (at least for me) doing exercises with girls.

    Everybody is just happy to be there and help out. I don't know if they get a lot of money for it or if they do it just because they want to, but it sure feels good being surrounded by so much value. It really feels you are in good hands. After a while, and especially after one day infield, it feels like they are your best friends. Naturally, you have to respect them back. For me, meeting the Rockstars was an awesome bonus! Somewhat unreal. It's like meeting one of your favorite famous person. Infield was almost like going to a celebrity event, where you are the main attraction. I just love hanging around so many cool people. Felt like I was at my second home. My plan during the bootcamp was just to have fun and enjoy the moment. This is a good state to be in, since you don't show needingness and your body language is reflecting that positive vibe too, which showed as even a girl opened me...

    Too bad the Rockstars didn't see us in action the second day. Me and Damian just rocked one set! We were invited to come with them to some other party on a boat, but we felt that we wanted to stay to make use of all the gurus some more as the girls left too soon...

    I dunno, in the beginning, it felt like "Wtf am I doing?". "Am I such a loser I need to go to things (bootcamp) like this?", although in this case I was called up and convinced by a guy at LS to join. Now, you can think if it that way, but it's more "I want to enrich my life, and be able to select the women I want myself." And really, not being afraid to talk to people. Who knows how cool the next person is unless you talk to them. And, for me personally, it's also about having awesome people with experience and know what they are doing and have incorporated everything into themselves around you, rubbing it off on you. I love meeting new people, and even more so when I know they got their shit together. I totally respect these guys! And besides, they really are sympathetic with you and want to teach and help you out. Now, personally, 2 days is too short, but still valuable though. You see things happen rapidly already on day 2, but then it's all over, which is little sad. Well, it's not over per se, but now you are on your own. What's priceless is being infield, and have a set analyzed and comment on afterwards by the gurus. It's really mind opening. Also, inviting them into sets is fun. And not because they should prove anything, but because they are the best wings in the world! Also, when you are out there, you have to remember that it's not what you say, it's how you say it. It's not saying this and that, but having a certain mindset, as a man with options. That is why it's so invaluable seeing these guys infield. The things you see in books like Magic Bullets and Love Systems Routines Manual (vol 2), reflect that mindset. You are here having fun, meeting new people, and if you see a hot woman you like, you go and talk to her. Now, naturally, in clubs/bars they are more used to guys coming up and being just weird and not interesting, so that is why there are these techniques that makes it more fun and non-threatening. Now, every situation is different, so you need to approach, approach, approach so you get used to it and internalize things. Here the gurus are excellent to have. Pushing you if necessary. Since you know these guys know what they are doing, you feel more safe just diving into sets, if you have that mindset. Avoid thinking you have to prove anything, that will just make you feel more anxious.

    Also, the other guys at the camp are excellent to continue developing with, if it's logistically and time-wise possible. You have now found other guys that are interested improving themselves. These are the type of guys you want to hang with to improve.


    Special thanks to:

    Mr. M - Well, enough said. The Legend speaks for himself by now. This robust, powerful, sharp and experienced man really know what he's doing and talking about.

    The Don - This guy makes you feel like he is one of your best friend. An intelligent guy with plenty of experience, easy to talk to, and plenty of insight.

    The seminar with these guys is more them AND you (the entire group), and not them speaking TO you.


    Rokker - Awesome guy that got his shit together (like the rest of them), and he gave me some good pointers after being in sets. This is exactly what I needed. Besides, love hanging with a fellow Swedish guy.

    Troy - Was fun winging a little first day at the end. How cool is it to hang with the guy you voted for being in the Rockstar program! Man, makes you feel special. This guy is a really cool, down to earth guy. Wish him the best, and hope we all meet again at the next event were the girls aren't as taken already...

    Alex - Again, love that I could hang with a fellow Rockstar. We were having long conversations and he had some killer tips for me. He really know a lot of non verbal communication that will escalate your intentions with a woman. Leaving the "only a friend" zone and enter the "lover" zone. Thank you again man! Really powerful manly body language tips there!

    Collin - I enjoyed the short time we spend together. Wish you the best man!

    Aaron (whim) - This is also an awesome guy. Sorry about the bad seminar exercise. I feel like an idiot, and I wanted that to be better than it was. But then again, I'm no actor... and really, this was more or less the first actor lesson I ever had. I mean, it goes much better infield, because it's more natural... Yea, yea, no excuses, but I just feel bad about it.

    And, to the rest of you. Mark, Damian etc. Thanks for an awesome time! I really want to thank everybody sincerely! Hope we see each other again soon!

    During the whole thing, everybody is a comedian (in a good way), so that adds to the bonding with the group as well! Everybody is just happy and seem to enjoy life.

    (please tell me if I should change your names here)


    I really recommend anything Love Systems is doing. They really, sincerely care about helping you.


    See you guys at the next celebrity event!

    / Chillance

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    My man, thank you for the kind words.

    I think it is on both our ends that we were glad to meet. It's not often someone is able to create a presence on the forum that makes me remember, but you... .

    Stockholm was just amazingly fun. Anyone living there is blessed and cursed at the same time. Blessed, well, you know why. Cursed... well... because it doesn't get dark!!!
    Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.

    - Theodore Roosevelt

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    A very long overdue, addition to the thread - and a big thank you

    By Damian:

    Well I attended the same bootcamp back in July, and what an amazing weekend it was. I honestly believe that out of all the weekends in my life, that is the one which was the most lifechanging.

    So for those of you wondering if you should take one, I'd say a definite yes. Get MB first, and brush up on the theory so you can focus on what you learn during the day, and your in-field game during the evening.

    The bootcamp was run by Mr M and The Don, and I have to say that they were both awesome instructors. A few Rockstars turned up (amazing to meet them), and I had some great experiences & infield advice from some of the approach instructors also (big thanks to Gooseman, Venture & Mark - more about that later), and also hung with Chilliance during the 2nd night - great to have met you man.

    The lessons were fun, extremely interesting, and I'm still (2 months later) learning from them. Mr M's explanation of spiking attraction within normal conversation, and viewing attraction, comfort and seduction as 3 cups is something I still use as part of my self-post-game-analysis.

    I still chuckle to myself at some of the great belief shattering stuff some of the guys said:

    Mark (the guy with one arm who recently wrote a post on the LS newsletter - a f**ing awesome guy who seriously rocks): "The thing about compliance Damian is that you have to show value in order to get it. Getting her to hi-5 you, and her letting you f**k her in the ass is all compliance - they are just at opposite ends of the spectrum." - (still laughing now as I write this).

    The Don (I think? apologies Mr M if it was you who said this!): "So how do you know if she's interested? If she does anything that you wouldn't do to another guy in a gay-bar, she's interested."...............also The Don's reference to Chody McDougall: "If in doubt, think what Chody would do, and then do the exact opposite."

    Venture was awesome, and that guy has some hughe masculine qualities. Telling me how women want and expect you to 'pull the trigger'. The reason why he sleeps with so many women is that they know he won't judge them, nor will he phone them 10 times afterwards and act like a stalker. That man is full on alpha, kino and sexualisation (v little comfort) - great to learn from him, and once again really kicked aside some self -limiting beliefs for good.

    Gooseman - thanks for hanging with me in Berns on both nights esp Sat 2-5am. Great having you as a wing, analysing my sets and I learned a hell of alot. Greatly appreciated & I owe you one.


    Anyway, how was the in-field? In a nutshell, you get out about 10 times what you put in. I decided to throw caution to the wind and open set after set (after the 1st one which Mr M did for me - thank you Mr M). After that, the first night was quite frankly a whirlwind and I think I spent about 1/2 hour with each instructor. I had excellent feedback (each guy has their own game and also their own slightly different advice). Getting the feedback was awesome. Approach anxiety was eliminated, and then Venture told me off re not doing any kino. So back in again and again, kino'ing and realising a. how easy it is to do, and b. how natural it feels.

    Saw how both Mark and Mr M could speak to girls that I was talking to, and their body language would just change & they would, well, melt. It was amazing to just watch that scene unfold - just to know that there are guys who can just walk up to women and then 'pow' she's hugely into him.

    2nd night, more sets. Chilliance and I opened, left and then re-opened a set of 2 Polish girls. Great fun, and they invited us to another venue, but the night was still young & we didn't feel like squandering the fact that there were so many instructors there. In the end, I hung with Gooseman until about 5am, with him pushing me into sets and then a bit of winging and post set analysis/advice. Greatly appreciated esp as you were off the clock.

    So to conclude. Didn't really know what to expect, but had a ball. Learned huge amounts and the best bit, is that after a night out, I can sit down the following day and conduct some pretty good self-analysis (which I wouldn't have been able to do before attending) - Where I hooked, where I lost the set, (was in attraction too long - have noticed that about myself!) etc,. Have also now started getting far more cocky when out with friends. If they see an attractive girl, then it's 'hey let's go and meet her' and off I go. Or I'll explain how I'm going to bounce the room, who I'm going to talk to first (to add value), the girl I'm going to speak to who is stood next to the girl I'm going to open (and what opener I'm going to use), and then tell him to wing me in 2 mins! All immature, but all good fun esp when out with guys who have had no training.

    The other thing I've noticed since the bootcamp, is that I now have a complete abundance mentality. If a HB I'm talking to/gaming chats to another guy who obviously wants her - it doesn't bother me any more. I've realised that the inner stomach twist I used to get was not to do with the actual girl, but a fear of loss - maybe its an evolution/survival thing. That fear of loss doesn't exist anymore because I have a road map, and am also having a great time navigating it!

    Next step?? Get better, open more HBs (difficult when living in Sudan at the mo!). Do Soul's day game bootcamp, get better at DG, then off to next year's superconference.

    A great experience, a great addition to my life, and a big thanks to all the guys, students and instructors alike (Whim, Rokker and anyone else I've missed out - thanks a mill)

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    Damiaaaan!!!!! You rock dude! Man that weekend in Stockholm was awesome! How is things now bro?

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    I hope this review is so late because you've been fighting women off!! Hahaha. That was an awesome weekend Damien, I'm pleased you got a lot out of it. I'd probably avoid trying to go caveman in the Middle East.

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    Mark - Things are v good. Had a great time at the bootcamp. Am now back in Sudan, busy working & gaming when the opportunity allows. Will cut loose to more social climes towards the end of the year, but a few personal projects to arrange first.

    Venture - Great to hear from you. You're 50% right anyway! And yes, going caveman in the Middle East isn't such a good idea - I'd end up on Al Jazeera in a boiler suit.

    Hope you guys have an awesome time at the superconference. I won't make this years, but will defo be there for next year (VIP all the way of course!)

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