Thread: Braddock Bootcamp - NYC, March 2010

I cannot find enough superlatives to describe the tremendous effort and achievements of Braddock and his fellow instructors and approach coaches at this bootcamp .

Hi, I'm LoveDoc. My only previous PUA bootcamp (from any company) was from Lovesystems and also with Braddock (and Daxx and Helicase ) in Las Vegas in June, 2009. (Read my review on page 4 of this review blog).

WARNING: this review is LONG. Dyslexic people, turn back now!

What a remarkable and ambitious advance Braddock has made since that camp held 9 months ago! Hell, this was a completely different camp; an overhaul by a creative, driven genius determined to do better......all the fucking time!

Let's start with an easy metric comparison: We had SIX instructors in New York, double the number in Vegas, and FOUR approach coaches (none in Vegas). Not taking anything away from the superb talents of Daxx and Helicase ; all the instructors in New York were outstanding experts in various specialties of Game; yet at the same time all masters of overall Game! What attention we all got in the field! Amazing!

The approach coaches were all wonderful, too; supportive team players with an excellent grasp of Game and mesmerizing to watch as they took the phrases and concepts from Magic Bullets and the Routines Manuals and made them real, natural and alive with a set of equally-mesmerized HB8s and 9s!

Braddock was on fire! I thought his energy level unbelievable in Vegas but he was hopped up on emotional steroids in New York! (At least in part due to his recent attendance at a Tony Robbins seminar in Orlando). He brings unbridled passion and force to the instruction of Game. You cannot do better than to be taught by him.

Braddock is restless and seeks to improve constantly. One major change from Vegas was the introduction of exercises, breaking from the form of pure didactic instruction and making the trainees think (ouch!) about how to handle different scenarios. We would break off into groups (3 instructors/approach coaches and 3-5 students) and be taught and confronted by the instructors on how to deal with different pick-up challenges. Kinda' like high school or college: didactic instruction, exercises, then real practice.

The New York venue for in-field training was utterly ideal (out of respect for LoveSystems policy to keep their choice venues a secret, I will not name it). In Vegas, the clubs, although target-rich with hot babes, were too noisy to run much of the Emotional Progression component of the Triad until you already isolated a bit. At this New York venue, conversation was easy; the volume was down enough to be able to be heard by the sets. Lots of nooks and cranies for isolation. Much better for practice.

In Vegas, as the evening and night progressed, the venue was more and more flooded and crowded with a lot of guys, making approach harder. In New York, free-standing sets of HB8s and HB9s still persist late into the night in accessible places where they can actually hear you!

Best of all, with more instructors, in-field observation and critique was much, much better in New York. Someone could always see what a student was up to (In Vegas, Braddock , Helicase and Daxx had to cover 8 students over 22,000 square feet at a particular noisy nightclub on the Strip!)

Thanks to the improved instructor-student ratio winging was much better in New York than Vegas.(I was critical of this in my Vegas review). Both students and instructors winged for each other, with some discussion of wing procedure before going in (you can read about the theory of winging in Magic Bullets or get it from Audio #21).

I would like to see at least, bare minimum, a course outline handed-out AT TIME OF REGISTRATION for the attendees. Better still, hand-out "Magic Bullets " to read before attendance, with margins for in-class notes. Some students didn't know or remember some of the terminology and concepts and we would all be a little better prepared if we could go over the material first.

What did I learn most from BOTH bootcamps ? Opinion openers SUCK! If a venue has ANY kind of energy these fall completely flat and the girls look at you like you are an idiot! Style, why did you invent this turkey and how did YOU make it work??? Go direct in high-energy environments!

Many thanks and accolades to the team who guided us though this process. The Instructors: BigBusiness (humor expert and alpha male +++, I NEED to attend your humor seminar to get those tools), Carbeau (THE Daytime expert this side of the pond; an intelligent sophisticated Oxford ex-pat Brit who showed impressive grace under pressure on Saturday night as we bonded a bit over a crazy, shared experience with...guess what...girls!, I hope to learn Day Game from him someday), Calabrese (you rock, guy!), Pendrixx (Jesus, if I wasn't perfectly straight, I'd push Miss New Hampshire off of you and fuck you myself! Good-looking guy), Dubbsy (mature and knowledgeable of Game beyond his years and an enthusiastic, sincere teacher. I predict great things!).

The approach coaches: Many thanks for the great support I received from Intrigue (you're fabulous, you Adonis ! Special thanks to you for your help) and Jesse; fantastic, genuine guys who care about the student to the nth degree. You guys were great and will be instructors some day soon. You too Dallas (and that other approach coach who I never was introduced to or worked with. But thanks anyways!)

But I reserve the highest praise for Braddock . It could not have been easy organizing a bootcamp of this high caliber. His passion and intelligence and enthusiasm were super-nova for 3 days. It's really, really, really hard to compress all of Game theory into 15 hrs of seminar time; but Braddock demands it. You were phenomenal, guy! What more can I say.

And many thanks to my fellow students, who sarged and winged with me, who did the exercises with me and shared their experiences . All the best in Game.

Sincerely, LoveDoc.

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

Braddock has succeeded in evolving his bootcamp , having pushed the curriculum to a whole different level.

This shouldn’t be terribly surprising, given the in-roads he’s carved in the area of Phone and Text Game , Inner Game and SCM . Nonetheless, Braddock has literally taken a proven age-old bootcamp structure and completely remodeled a large majority of it.

Four words: It is fucking awesome.

I have read countless reviews (literally), of past Love Systems students stating that their only concern with the bootcamp programs was that there were not enough exercises/drills. For individuals who learn best by doing (I would argue a majority of people), a solution has arrived. That is, Braddock ’s new structure of bootcamp focuses significantly on drills/exercises, and learning by doing. Moreover, with his team of junior instructors, an emphasis of “natural game,” and getting good at this while still being a cool guy, is pressed like I’ve never seen before.

Even though there might have been less theory, I am almost certain each of the students advanced more throughout the weekend than if there had been more. Moreover, much of the theory has been reiterated over and over again in Magic Bullets , instructor classic writings, and literally each of the other Love Systems e-books. Moreover, the origins of those theories can be dug out from researching older products (Venusian Arts etc…). The bottom line: With some effort, theory can easily be sought out… drill time and exercises with instructors can’t.

Seminar: Day 1
Starting from Day 1, I knew this bootcamp would be different. Over the past 2 weeks, I’ve had a revelation that you need to give investment to build the foundation for the emotional progression model to build off of (the endless cycle of attraction /qualification /comfort ). Braddock took that revelation and exploded it into a breadth of material, turning the very act of building conversation into a skillset in itself. He and his junior instructor team pretty much spend the entire first day teaching how to build organic conversation (including an extremely in-depth explanation of his prized Trigger Words system).

Literally, there is no better way to learn the concept than through the drills/exercises we took part in. It is vastly more effective than teaching the system in a lecture style, and then hoping for the best out in-field. I am positive Day 1 launched the entire class weeks ahead of where they were originally started the day at. This Day 1 structure is like nothing I’ve ever seen before, and clearly has taken Braddock a while to develop. It was awesome, you could literally see the gears turning in others’ heads as they began to get a grasp on how to build a foundation of back-and-forth conversational investment with a woman.

Seminar: Day 2
Day 2 focused primarily on attraction , which was in large part taught by my man Big Business . He taught attraction through his proprietary break-down of disqualification into 10 themes. The more times I’m exposed to this lecture, the more I realize how revolutionary it is. It has literally broken down attraction building to a T, in a way that is more practical (as opposed to theoretical) than anything else. I like it… a lot.

This is my favorite way of seeing attraction being broken down – it’s so simple and effective. (p.s. anyone having trouble in attraction should seriously consider taking Big Business ’s Humor/Improv/Attraction seminar … it is literally a 5-hour in-depth attraction fix).

From the lecture, Braddock again incorporated the material into his new drill/exercise-focused structure, and we spent a good chunk of time internalizing Big Business ’s material through in-class exercises and instructor critique. This is absolutely key... seriously. Think about it, in-field it is near-impossible for anyone to hear what you are saying in set; thus, the exercises provided an opportunity for the instructors to see how you have interpreted the theory, and to make adjustments as necessary. This would not have been possible in-field.

Other broader concepts of attraction (push/pull ), isolation, and some escalation were covered as well.

Seminar: Day 3
Day 3 focused on qualification , comfort , physical/verbal escalation and a few electives (day-game, dates etc…). The junior instructors taught qualification and comfort . They did a great job, though I will say when Braddock interjected into the qualification section with examples of each hoop, it really really helped. As mentioned, qualification is easy to teach, but difficult to implement, and Braddock ’s in-person examples helped a lot. Perhaps the live-examples of his delivery/subcommuncations should be integrated as part of the curriculum (even though they happened, I’m not sure if they were entirely planned since the junior instructors were teaching the section).

A structure was provided for comfort , though it was covered more quickly than other sections. I feel this comes down to personal style, but at least the main points of the phase were covered enough to give students runway to try/experiment in the future . While this section may have been less developed (in-part because in comparison, earlier sections such as attraction were so deeply developed), I do feel its an area that tends to come more naturally to students learning this stuff.

Big Business did dates, which was great (go bars!), and Carbeau did a quick primer on day-game, which was a solid introduction to the topic.

In-Field
You know it’s going to be a good in-field when there is a 1:1 ratio of instructors to students. The in-field was essentially a 1on1 taking the guise of a bootcamp in-field . On the first day, I focused mainly on doing my thing and just opening sets and taking them as far as I could. I ended opening quite a bit, and ended up hooking a few girls pretty hard. In addition, throughout the night, I was able to get reinforcement from the instructor team on my ability to consistently build/expand rapport / cycle attraction /qualification . More importantly, they corrected things to make my sets more effective; such as pushing for isolation more and throwing in sexualization EARLY (i.e. 2-3 minutes early).

Day 2 focused even more on fixing the little subcommunication nuances. I was focused less on getting as far as possible in each set, and more on having instructors watch/critique the beginning of my sets (the initial ~8-10 minutes). Through this, I was able to get a deep diagnosis of my subcommunications, which was incredibly useful. I was made aware of issues such as ticks/twitches, forced lock-ins, speaking too quickly and sometimes coming off too polished/gamey.

This feedback was absolutely money. They were issues that weren’t necessarily getting me blown out of some sets, but I’m positive they’re having an overall combined negative impact, and blowing me out of other sets (i.e. the girl by the bar when I forced the awkward lock-in). Moreover, without the detailing critiques, I would have just kept on doing the above mentioned without realizing it (since the negative reactions are not necessarily consistent). These are the fixes that begin to separate the great from the good, and I really appreciate having had the opportunity for that kind of high-level feedback.

[There was even a point towards the end of the night where I would open Braddock , Dubbsy or Calabrese over and over to really get a sense of where I could clean-up my opener. Though sets had been opening the way I had been doing it before, having the detailed critique I was getting is really the essence of taking things to the next level.]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help.

Summary
As I’ve said a number of times by now, Braddock ’s evolved bootcamp really is something else. A part of it comes down to having the manpower to run such a structure, which is directly correlated to Braddock having used his SCM principles to build a loyal team of junior instructors, and a part of it comes down to just having made a big effort to progress the field of dating science itself.

Those of you that know me know I’ve been working on this stuff hardcore for a bit now, and yet, I still feel I was able to make a huge stride forward over the weekend.

Thanks again to Braddock , Big Business , Calabrese , Dubbsy, Carbeau and Pendrixx for an awesome bootcamp !

This is the definitive work on pickup and dating theory, written by an acknowledged master of the game - a guy who’s TRAINED many of the new “gurus” on the scene!

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

You guys were awesome - seriously - great attitude and a wonderful passion for self-improvement - it was a real pleasure to work with you all.

Keep us posted on your progress!

C.

If I had to describe this boot camp in one word I would have to say an absolute BLAST! From the minute you step through the door to the minute you leave you will be having an absolutely amazing time.

On top of all the fun, you will learn things here you won't learn anywhere else. Conversational techniques and strategies that will take your game to the next level regardless if you just finished Magic Bullets for the first time or you needed to get extra memory on your computer from downloading all of the love system products.

Most importantly you will develop your natural game. They don't expect you to memorize a bunch of routines or become some Pick Up character. They teach you to go into the field and customize every approach so you never have to worried about being "called out" as a PUA or running out of things to say.

Lastly aside from being extremely knowledgeable and experienced coaches they are just great people to work with. Braddock will oversee every aspect of your game. Big Business will bring your teasing and humor to a new level. My main man Calabrese and Dubbsy will pin point EXACTLY what you need to fix and exactly what you are already great at, and we cant forget about Intrigue who has so much love for pick up and so much energy inside of him he will inspire you the entire weekend.

WARNING: This boot camp will result in meeting and attracting beautiful quality women. Some side affects are excess of phone numbers, make outs, and a new and natural out look on Pick Up.

Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER?

I would like to let anyone who is considering taking this Boot Camp to know that you will be in extremely good hands w Braddock and his team of instructors. I can honestly say that this was one of, if not the most interesting seminars I have taken in my life. I was very apprehensive going into this course but at the same time very enthusiastic bc I read so many positive reviews. Braddock is not only a great guy he is a great instructor. I can tell you w conviction that he was born to teach this course and work in this industry. Braddock calibrates the minutiae of every detail of his class. I cannot imagine a better teacher or a better constructed course. The class after the first day almost turns into a little family and all the guys really care about seeing you improves and grows your game. The class portion of the seminar was the fastest 5 hours I can recall in a long time, time flies bc you are having fun and the subject matter is so damn interesting. We did lots of roll plays and scenario breakdowns to reinforce what we were just taught section by section. The infield part of the class is also a ton of fun. The instructors will watch and listen to you while you are interacting w each girl. I personally spent a lot of time w Carbeau , Pendrix , and Dubbsy. Carbeau was my main man during the class and helped me w bringing on the fun factor in my conversations. Pendrix acted as my wingman and showed me that getting blown out by girls is all part of the game . We had a ton of fun and I provided him w an assist w a beauty queen that he ended up scoring. Dubbsy pointed out that I was too animated when I talked to hot girls and this lowered my value, he taught me how to move while speaking to beautiful women. When you leave the set they give you feed back on what you can do to improve on the interaction. At one point during the second infield segment I had an interesting moment of clarity. As I looked over the crowded club, I noticed that all the instructors within eye shot (3) were the center of the party in whichever group they were in at that time. The instructors literally were all surrounded by girls; the girls were all laughing and having a great time as they ran the show. I learned things about myself that I never would have thought were a problem w my game. My only complaint is that both infield nights were held at the same venue, going there two nights in a row killed the energy a bit the second night out. Props to Big Business , he lined me up w a hot little French girl the end of the first infield night. I ended up bouncing out w the hottie getting down and dirty till about 6am. It was then that I realized why class does not start until 2pm! I had so much fun at this boot camp that if I didn’t have a well established career I honestly would do whatever it took to work with this group of instructors on a full time basis. I fell in love w the course!

Thank you Guys!

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Before taking Braddock ’s seminar I took three boot camps . The first two boot camps were standard for the community opinion openers with transition into regular conversation. Two things I accomplished were approaching lots of woman and realizing opinion openers are not my style. It just seems like a lot of work to get into a regular conversation with someone. I got stuck on the opener, didn’t root the opener, after the opener I spit every routine I heard just to keep the conversation going and creeped a lot of girls out. So to me the boot camps kind of were a waste because I didn’t go out after the boot camps and felt like I was starting from zero. I stopped for a while then I searched and made sure if I did a boot camp it would fit the style of game I feel comfortable with and that they prepare me for going out and meeting strangers.

The 3rd boot camp was more my style. I learned a lot about reading the venue, and different types of openers like situational, opening with a compliment and proximity types of openers. Just about every set I approached opened but stalled out. The company giving the boot camp did not do a good job teaching how to have social conversations with strangers and all you do at boot camps is approach and open strangers for the most part. Right before boot camp I joined one of the long term training program so I wasn’t too worried about it at the time. I was actually considering Sinn ’s program. He made a lot of good points in his game acceleration documents, that most guys don’t know how to have regular social conversations and the biggest complaint new guys have is what do I say next. He noted how some new guys walk around spitting routines creeping girls out because they don’t know how to have regular conversations and that was my experience in the first two boot camps .

After working with my long term coach. I started getting some consistency. I was going out 2-4 times a week getting like 10-20 numbers a month. I was having sex with some of the girls but my results were random and inconsistent. The hook ups were random and I felt like I was pursuing way too much. I made a lot of progress but it wasn’t the consistency I wanted. Going out, writing field reports and getting coached once a week made a huge difference but some of the coaching I was getting started to not fit some of the sticking points I was getting. Everything was supposed to be because I was not qualifying properly, I also was getting overwhelmed trying to juggle going out, meeting up with and following up on all the new girls I was meeting. I was about to give it a break for a while but Braddock 's boot camp came right on time. I loved all of the things he said on the interview series and he gamed like some of my natural friends. It wasn’t all routinish.

Structure of the seminar - Braddock taught how to have basic conversation. We had to try to remember the details of what our partner told us about themselves and related to it or get attraction from it. We went through the whole emotional progression model . We learned how to properly transition between the different phases, how to create role plays and teases from a regular conversation, how to properly qualify - real subtle distinctions like if she is not really investing how to respond. After the exercises in each section we had a instructor critique our interactions and give us feedback on ways to make the interactions better. So it was like having an instructor teach us how to properly run natural game through the whole emotional progression model before we went into the field and the next day when we debriefed. We were lucky enough to have enough instructors and approach coaches to work one on one with each student. The instructors also shared
some of their sample interactions. Big Business taught us a bunch of ways to create humor , kino escalation and dates. Carbeau taught and demonstrated how to run day game and this was in addition to the regular seminar . After the boot camp Braddock sent us a pdf file with notes for the things taught in the seminar and more.

During the boot camp. I saw a bunch of things that was causing the sticking points . I wasn't setting good frames didn’t have good frame control and It’s really important to do so in role plays . I wasn’t sexualizing the interactions in the right way, I didn't have strong boundaries when girls were playing games. I was qualifying on bullsh*t, I was staying in attraction too long without getting investment from the girls, I wasn't utilizing progressive kino , I didn't have a good calibration tool like the green, yellow, red light so I was pushing and pulling at the wrong times. Micro-calibration to me didn't properly address what to do when you’re not getting compliance but it’s not really bad behavior.

It’s been a busy couple of days since the boot camp. I met a girl on Saturday of the boot camp and almost got the SNL but it was bad logistics so I flirted and teased her all week until we could meet up on Thursday and then I closed the deal. I hooked back up with a girl that I was kind of losing before the boot camp and we are going to hook up again tonight and I also hooked up with another girl using the kino escalation ladder that Big Business taught. Using the kino ladder made the seduction go a lot smoother than what I was doing before the boot camp. There was no LMR at all.

Big thanks to Braddock , Dubsy - who I worked with the most and is money, and all the other guys. It feels like I learned more in three days then I did in three boot camps and six months of long term coaching.

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