Thread: Mr M Bootcamp - London, January 2010 (w/ 5.0, Vercetti & Keychain)

AWSOME WEEKEND!

Not only did I learn a lot of new stuff, but got the chance to see the instructors in action and learn even further from that.
For some time I'd considered going to a Bootcamp , but I'm from Barcelona, SPAIN, and at the time LS don't do Bootcamps here. So 3 weeks from now I got the chance to go to London to this Bootcamp last weekend. Would I've known, I would've started saving way sooner or done something different to go to a Bootcamp before.

Many people might have already written the same things: "eye-opener experience", "don't know why I waited so long to go",..., to me it was in many ways like this. I already knew a lot of this material, seen it on videos, have read The Game , Mystery Method and Magic Bullets and a lot of non-verbal communication stuff,... Maybe if I wouldn't have known so much about it I would've been more astonished, but still, I loved seeing that what I knew was already valid, just needed a little tune up! That was great!

I went in the seminar room, started chatting with a couple other students, then we each made a little presentation of ourselves, and then the teaching started. Ok I knew this, I knew that, I know.. wow that's new! Teaching goes on, learn a couple new things, ok, up to now I don't know how this will make a difference in me tonight.
We meet up at the venue and after dinner we get started. At this point started my frustatin. My most important goal to achieve when I signed up for the Bootcamp was to be able to approach. I'm 25 and until last weekend all my girlfriends and fuckfriends I'd met through the Internet or had been introduced to me by a friend. I wanted to change that. But I just couldn't. I'd get literally blocked, my head would go blank, my body would freeze and I wouldn't be able to move if I thought about approaching someone. I had no problem to girls when I was introduced to by someone else, but couldn't do it by myself. The approach instructors would tell me to go talk to that girl and I'd just stay in the same spot I was. Then Vercetti gave me some real good and tough advice (including "they (the girls there) will not remember you tomorrow when they wake up, so why do you f*ckin' care what they think?" and "you can choose to have spent $3,000 and just loose it or you can choose to take advantage of the $3,000") that made me think a lot and I felt I'd gone one step forward. After that I went outside to have a smoke, when I came in I went with 5.0 and explained to him my problem. So he advised me to go small chunk by small chunk, and asked me to go and just ask the girls what time did the venue close, and don't care about the answer. That wasn't that difficult to me, so I did approach like this, ok feels good, nothing bad happened. He asked me to do this a couple more times, so I did, and was feeling great, and having lots of fun. Afterwards I did an opinion opener and wen great, just doing it for fun. Afterwards Vercetti asked us to approach directly, and right after saying that, he pointed to a gorgeous blonde passing right behind me and told me to approach her, so I just went in and approached directly. It felt great! After that I just kept having fun for the rest of the night chatting with other girls. I ended up with the facebooks (sine the logistics didn't allow me to do anything with telephone at the time) of two gorgeous blondes I'd met in the venue.

The next day was great. It turned out I learned way more than I'd expected in the seminar . Unfortunatelly that night I didn't have as much fun as last night. I got blocked again. Then at the end of the night I ended up getting a great demo from Mr.M and talking with him for a while afterwards. That's when I understood I needed to go bit by bit and focus on the steps toward the goaln not the goal itself, and enjoy each step of the way. That was THE most eye-opening experience for me of the whole bootcamp , that's what works for me.

Now I know what I need to succed, and that's what I'll do.

THANX A LOT YOU GUYS

PS: Keychain was also an instructor at the bootcamp , but since I only got to learn from him during the seminar only (not infield) I can't say much more than he's teaching's pretty good. And great fast escalation, although it's not my style, I might use some of his techniques sometime.
PS2 : the day after we finished I was going back home, and at the airport there was this gorgeous blonde working there, so after a little AA and thinking I don't want more "I could've talked to her..." I just went to her and opened directly. And got a great response from her! THAT WAS F*CKIN GREAT!!

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Glad we could nail your sticking points so fast!

The blonde girl who's number you got right in front of me at the end of the first night with me was STUNNING! Just shows what you're capable of when you just relax and enjoy the process

Keep us updated with your progress!

-5.0

Cant wait to hear updates!

I found the community 2 years ago (Apr 2008) and read The Game , I still didn’t do well (although I have some results). Without the bootcamp I will never found out that my body language and sub-communication were so bad, cool dance moves and routines and other skills are nothing if body language and sub-communication are sad, now I got the answer, thanks for everything, I am determine to cross the river and become a PUA.

The London bootcamp was great, "MrM , 5.0 , KeyChain , Vercetti " were all excellent, I wish I had the money and took the training earlier in my life, but it's not too late, I know what to do when I see a HB, I am fearless now. I got two number closed in the bootcamp .

I went out with one of my best friend last night, it was my first Saturday out after the bootcamp last weekend, my best friend was watching me in shock, he couldn’t believe his eyes, I was a completely different person to him, he watched me approached HBs who were taller than myself, I was also surrounded by 5 of the most beautiful girls in the whole venue. I walked like James Bond , I danced like Jay Sean, I locked in against the bar like 5.0 , I acted like Mr. M (although I haven’t got his skills), I talked like Vercetti , I KINO escalate like KeyChain , I felt unnatural in the first hour, because I was NOT like this before the bootcamp , as soon as I became the CENTRE OF ATTRACTION (NOT “centre of attention”, centre of attention is an out of date concept, you want people look at you in the cool way, right), now I feel natural and I am happy with my new image, I didn’t ask any girls for their numbers last night, because I don’t like number-close anymore, I want instant results, e.g. French Kissing, dance floor make out, etc, if you can do a K-Close, #-close will be followed automatically.

OMFG, if I knew the bootcamp can have such a great impact in my life, I will attended 2 years ago, Mr. M is an ugly bastard, I watched him in action, he didn’t always succeed, but his mentality and attitude are super, any man can pick up if you have the confidence like him.

KeyChain – you know what, you funny like Hell in the seminar , sooooooo charming, and good taste in clothes. Your Kino escalation demo was one of the best parts in the seminar , it was PERFECT DEMO KeyChain , other students were agreed with me, I think you already knew that.

5.0 - you are a true comedian and full of charisma. Have you noticed something during the seminar : apart from me of course the cute reporter Katie has lay eyes on you more than anyone else in the whole room, I think she was wet but very shy, she kept giving you that DOGGY DINNER-BOWL LOOK, especially when you talking about the Last Minute Resistance , but you were too busy looking at the students when lecturing, if I was her, I already dragged you to the toilet and finished you off
Thank you for everything, you gave me more feedback than most students, thanks again!

Mr. M – thanks for your 1 - 1 training. You know what? You were the Coolest and also the ugliest Asian dude I have ever met! If Jacky Chan phone me again this weekend, I will cancel the appointment with him, BECAUSE I PREFER TO HANG OUT WITH YOU!!!

Vercetti – you were soooo calm and natural, I am learning how to talk like you, thanks for everything, every time you spent 2 mins with me, you spotted one mistake and one shortcoming that I had, you twisted my original personality!

DanKing

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This bootcamp was an amazing experience for me to discover where the latest technologies of the game have gone too and OMG it's gone in a good direction. I used to be a big fan of the venutian art handbook and old school techniques but lets face it, most of them were gimicky and gamy, it was obvious that if you walk across the room to ask a girl if she flosses before of after she brushes you were hitting on her especialy if she is the hottest girl in the venue.

Thanks to Mr M , Vercetti , Keychain and 5.0 I learned "Man Game" this week end, a kind of game where you are no longer affraid to show your sexual intent and where the girl enjoys it, a kind of game that looks way more like "Natural" game than what most of what the community uses, a kind of game that looks more like me.

The inclass content was so rich that I felt dizzy after most of the lectures, like my reality got shifted (almost too?) brutaly, and the only thing that could still run through my mind was : How the hell am I going to be able to apply this tonight ?

During the first night I was out with Micha and Keychain , I worked mostly with Micha who did an Amazing job at making my approaches more natural and flirty, all of this using lovesystems .com/audio/vol-26-direct-game-soul -badboy -cortez" target="_blank" class="gal">direct game only. The girls were very responsive most of the time, when I ran out of stuff to say I could just get back to Micha who would give me a fun routine or line to use and relaunch the discution and it was ON. By the end of the night I caught another student in a 2 set and because of the heat of the previous sets and Micha 's advices I was litteraly able to make out with her in 3 minutes which allowed the other student to make out with his girl, sadly I failed to pull my girl even though she was very attracted, I got her number though, we all left on a high note and very eager to learn what was comming on day 2.

During the 2nd night I was out with Mark from Holland and Keychain again, Mark was a great help to me, his vibe was different from Micha 's but just as good, the guy is very inspirational, he has 1 arm and is able to attract about any girl!! Anyway he pushed me into sets, gave me advices over the shoulder etc but I was able to push the interactions much more after learning about qualification and attraction , I felt that I was almost ready to fly on my own but that having the instructors surounding me and still giving me feedback on sub coms and body language was awesome and helped me to fine tune my game, I didnt get a pull that night but several numbers and a whole bunch of girls eye fucking me all night long which feels pretty good and validating.

Anyway to sum it up my experience of the bootcamp was beyond expectations and even though I mostly worked with ACs in field (I still had 1 on 1s with keychain but as I was doing quite good he focused more on students that needed more help ) these guys changed my life a great deal and I really hope to see them again, I owe you alot guys.

Cheers.

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Intense weekend in London - bootcamp really lived up to its name. Mr M and the other instructors were completely passionate about the science of dating, its theory, application, and most importantly: helping each student as much as possible to "get good". All this made it easy for me to accept the material and understand that the guys are not just trying to sell a product...the instructors live this stuff and want to see other dudes succeed at it.
Awesome weekend and awesome group of guys!

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SOME WEEKEND

I found out about the community about 9 months ago when my cousin told me about a book called 'the game '. After reading it, I did a little research on-line and came across love systems . That is when I read magic bullets and other love systems products.

I then started to learned about frame control and female psychology , and all the other aspect of gaming that you don't find out when your out with your mates, talking to girls on a Saturday night and wondering why they keep blowing you out. I then knew that I had to take a bootcamp and the sooner the better.

Mr M your a genius in fact all the instructors are amazing. The biggest thing that you don't get from reading all the material is the pointers on sub-communications, turns out I was a bit of a tooth watcher! haha!!

Direct is definitely the way forward, asking some chick about whither or not a pink shirt is gay or super gay IS GAY. But now that I know how to transition off of the opener and straight into a tease or role play is dynamite. I still have some chick texting me about how i'm a bad husband because I haven't called in a couple of days and that this time the divorce is final.

I would just like to finish of by saying thank to all the instructors and approach coaches.

Mr M what can I say, you can really tell that you are passionate about this stuff, guess you have to be, to be as good as you. The stuff you mentioned on sub-communications is really helpful and has saved me a lot of frustration.

5.0 thanks for the pointers on transitioning and attraction , its a really simple system but so effective. All I need to do now is practise practise practise.

I didn't really get to work with any of the other instructors but Keychain your lectures were amazing and really helpful and Vercetti i'm never going to let you near my sister.

Also a thanks to Goose, Farmer , Micha and all the other AC, you were all really helpful and gave me the kick up the arse when it was needed.

I now feel that with a bit of work I can get this important part of my life sorted. Its interesting how all this stuff can be implemented into your life as a whole, especially the social circle mastery and your inner game .

Kenny

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"Cute features" Dan? Hehe

Friday 29 jan 2010. 05u00 in the morning. My alarm wakes me up. While I get out of bed, take a shower and eat some breakfast, the following thoughts run through my mind:
“What the hell am I going to do? Why am I doing this? I’m smart … why can’t I figure this out on my own? How can I justify to myself spending so much money on only one weekend? …”

But I remember that I’ve made the decision to take a bootcamp a while ago, and that it is only a last minute attempt of my mind to come up with excuses that would convince me to stay in my comfort zone and cancel the bootcamp . I decide not to listen to these mind tricks and start my travel from Belgium to Londen (yeah, I traveled from another country … in the future you should also organize a bootcamp in Belgium !! )

The afternoon of the first day we were prepared and drilled to open a conversation with a girl and to transition into a normal conversation. The first night we had to be in the club around 8 o’clock to be sure we could get in, but we would only start approaching from 10 o’clock on. We could eat something on the beneath floor of the club. But being there 2 hours in advance and knowing that at 10 o’clock we would start approaching , made me more and more nervous. But Simon (an approach coach) recognized this and said: “You look a bit nervous. What’s up? Talk to me.” He is a really fun guy. He quickly put me back at ease by reframing what was going to happen as a really fun learning experience.

I started the evening with Jonathan (another approach coach). He made me practice the approach a couple of times on him and he corrected the most important subcommunication errors that I was making. Then we went to a higher floor of the club to start approaching girls. He pointed out two really hot blond girls at the bar ordering a drink and said to me: “Go approach them.” In the afternoon we practiced 2 approaching methods: direct and indirect, so he asked me: “How are you going to approach them? Direct or indirect?”
I thought: “Well, if I’m gonna try something new, I might as well immediately shoot for the gold” so I said: “I’m gonna go direct”.
So I walked to the two very hot girls standing at the bar. I was scared because I didn’t really know what to expect, but I felt some kind of confident feeling because of the fact that I wasn’t going to have to improvise. I was going to try an opener and a transitioning technique that was teached to me and that had already proven its effectiveness numerous times before with other people. And I also felt some kind of confidence because I knew that I would get constructive feedback afterwards no matter what would happen in this particular situation.
So I delivered the direct opening line to one of the girls. She smiled and said thank you. Then I introduced myself also to her girlfriend. Then I remembered a transitioning line that we learned in the seminar so I said it to see what would happen: “I have this feeling you are a nurse …”
She looked at me a little bit shocked: “Why? Why do you think I am a nurse?”
“Well you have this caring vibe about you. You look like you like to take care of people and are always friendly to people”
At that moment her girlfriend starts laughing and says: “No, I’m the caring one, she’s the bitchy one. Normally she isn’t this friendly to guys approaching her …”

This first approach made me realize: “This stuff really works !!! I can learn a lot from these guys this weekend if I hand over my remote control and try everything they teach me !!”

Later during that night I approached girls with Jim (Mr M ) watching. He’s really good in seeing your mistakes. He is direct in his feedback, but this is how you will learn the most. He is not there that night to be your best friend, but to be the best teacher and to make you improve the most.

After that I started opening and transitioning relatively consistently. I then teamed up with Mark (another approach coach, a really talented one if you ask me ) and it was really fun and relaxed. I wasn’t feeling any anxiety anymore. We were just hanging out and approaching girls left and right and everytime he gave me feedback on how I could improve. He also made me approach sets that I would normally never approach (a high energy 7 set on the dancefloor, a mixed, seated 5 set, a guy and a girl that I thought were boyfriend and girlfriend but they turned out not to be boyfriend and girlfriend because when I approached the girl, the guy left , and so many more sets). Those experiences really destroy a lot of limiting beliefs.


The second seminar day we learned more about attraction and escalation and a lot more stuff. That night I went out with Vercetti and HiRoller to another club and I again learned a lot from those guys. For the second night in a row the limits of what I thought is possible were completely blown away, not only because of my own experiences by approaching girls and then getting feedback from them on how I did and could improve, but also by seeing them in action. They both are like girl magnets and they make it seem so easy and smooth. It was really inspiring to see what an incredible effect you can have on girls if you are willing to put in the effort to learn and practice this stuff. HiRoller gave a really inspiring debriefing at the end of that night.


So did I get laid this bootcamp weekend? No.
Did I kiss a girl? No.
Was the bootcamp worth its money? ABSOLUTELY !!!
Why? Well, because the bootcamp gave me much more than some short term successes. It’s like the cliché metaphor: if you want to help the starving people in Africa, you can bring them fish, but if you leave, then at night they enjoy eating the fish, but the next day they will be starving again. If you go to Africa and teach the people how to fish, then when you leave, they will be able to fish by themselves and they will not be starving anymore …

The bootcamp teaches you the following: whatever you want to achieve with girls, whatever success with girls means for you (maybe it is meeting and starting a relationship with that one special girl or maybe it is having same night lays with more girls than you can count), they will teach you how to get there. They will show you the path that you have to walk to get there. They know the path really well, because they have walked it before you.
If you were unable to start walking on that path in the past, because you had approach anxiety , the instructors will help you with your first steps and get you to start walking the path.
They will also give you some kind of magic power so that if you hit a tree or any kind of obstacle next to the path (so if you get blown out of a set) that it doesn’t hurt. You will get a magic power that it doesn’t hurt you on a personal level. You start welcoming those kind of experiences because you know it is a learning experience and you know it puts you a step closer to your goal.
And if in the future you would get a little dissy or confused because you just bumped into a tree or an obstacles , then the instructors will be still there via the Lounge to point you back in the right direction.
So bottom line: the bootcamp changes your goal of success with women from something hard, complex and maybe unreachable, to something that is really within reach and they make the path to get there really fun. I now really feel that it is just a matter of me putting time and energy in it.
Before the bootcamp I didn’t really have the feeling that I had control over my dating life and from time to time the dating game really frustrated me. After the bootcamp it has become my new hobby !! I really enjoy practicing it !! It’s really fun to try new stuff, sometimes it works, sometimes not, but always it is fun.

It is now 2 weeks after the bootcamp and I’m only writing the review now because I was too busy with trying out the stuff I learned during the bootcamp and having fun with it and with the girls that I’ve met in the last 2 weeks …

Enjoy the journey !!!

Ps: I know this review sounds really positive. When I read reviews that were so positive before I took my bootcamp , I remember I was really skeptical and I thought: “A bootcamp of only one weekend can’t have such a profound effect. This must be exaggerated. This must be marketing to try to sell their bootcamps … “ but take it from a skeptical guy like me: the reviews really aren’t exaggerated. A bootcamp will really improve your ability to control your dating life a lot !!!

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