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Fader knows what he’s talking about. He’s very familiar ...
Fader Bootcamp - NYC, July 2009 Fader knows what he’s talking about. He’s very familiar with the underlying psychology of pick-up, and goes well beyond what you will get from reading only pick-up books. He was very good with inner game and was always trying to help us push through sticking points. He was right there when his students, including myself, needed encouragement after a string of bad sets. He's a good teacher, and yes, he did get a stripper's number on the first night of in field training.
Review of Fader 07/24/09 NYC Workshop
Review of Fader 07/24/09 NYC Workshop
As I sit here and think back about the kind of person that I was before taking Fader’s boot camp, I could only shake my head in amazement , and ask myself why on earth didn’t I take it sooner. Recollections and memories begin to fill my mind flooding them with the all the confusing emotions and situations I had with women. No matter how hard I tried and how logical I tried to think about things I simply didn’t understand what women wanted. It baffled me how I can go on so many first dates and never progress to the next steps.
That all changed when I made a decision to take Fader’s boot camp. For years women were a perplexing problem that was almost an impossibility to solve, until now… Fader emerged as a passionate teacher who made sure I understood every single piece of the complex course that he so eloquently taught. He had the charisma of a Hollywood actor, and the presence of a famous politician. I was both amazed and delighted that I was one of the few people who could witness this and take advantage of his incredible insight and analysis. In my opinion, He is both a scholar and gentleman and I am grateful to him for accepting me as one of his students.
Fader, I can’t thank you enough, and I am a changed man because of you. You have helped me unlock so many close doors that stood between me and my success. Thank you!!
Wishing you all the best,
Fader Bootcamp - NYC, July 2009
Fader is an awesome instructor with an amazing skill set. He demonstrated great insight into, knowledge of and personal experience related to the game in addition to a lot of important aspects of life in general. During the seminar, he was keenly interested in making sure all of us understood his teachings and frequently paused to focus on key issues that we were getting stuck on. Fader was very generous with his time - he put in an extra hour at the beginning and end of each session and stayed with us during the lunch breaks. What really stood out was his personal attentiveness to each of us. He is a genuinely nice guy who wants to see you do well. And he is a fast talker, which is cool since he jammed in a lot of material in a short amount of time. The time I spent in the seminar literally flew by. I suggest you bring a laptop as it's the only practical way to keep up with the quick pace. I took about 15-20 pages of notes each day. What also is unique about Fader is that he is constantly tweaking his seminar to reflect the most up-to-date material. You definitely do not feel he is mailing it in and simply repeating stuff for the 100th time. He sprinkles his material with new thoughts, references, stories and infield experiences. Fader was simply "on" all weekend and never backed down from the task at hand. I cannot recommend him enough.
Fader was just incredible! I learned SO much! But the best were the in-fields where we put to use the theory we'd studied. Thats where it really started to come together. Fader was the ultimate coach. In class it was just amazing how much information he has gathered together and shared with us. And its clear he continues to look for additional information to share with his students to help them with their inner and outer games. Right from the first night, I started opening sets I NEVER would have prior to the Bootcamp! Recently, I was challenged to open a mixed set with one hottie and 4 uys. No problem. Just walked in there and opened. I never would have done that before. Fader and the Bootcamp have really changed other aspects of my life. I really feel like I'm on a new path. I'm more confident with people and enjoy them more because I know more about what makes them tick. I can't recommend Fader enough!
Fader Bootcamp - NYC, July 2009
Let me start by saying that $3000 is a LOT of money. The question isn’t whether Fader is a good teacher – he is – or whether his course has value – it does. The question is whether his BootCamp justifies the ridiculously high price tag.
I believe that reviews are most credible when they include the good AND the bad. I sincerely want to keep in touch with Fader, both as a friend and a mentor, and I believe that he will have the maturity to accept both the compliments and the criticisms.
I’ll start with the bad. First, Fader can be overly aggressive, especially when he’s been drinking. He’s loud and in-your-face, which can be very abrasive to up-and-coming alpha males. He actually yelled at one of our classmates who made a mistake during an approach. He later apologized, which shows respect.
Second, by midnight, our Saturday night venue (which was great on Friday night) turned into a screaming-loud night club full of at least 30 other PUAs (by Fader’s own count). I became incapable of opening sets because: a) no one could hear me unless I shouted in their ear; and b) I was competing against men with much more experience than me, many of whom were peacocked like Mystery. I suggested to Fader that we bounce to a quieter venue, but his response was, essentially, “Deal with it.” I got discouraged and left. Yes, I could have sucked it up and kept trying, but I’m also still a student. If you’re teaching calculus, you don’t throw the hardest problem at a student first … you give him easier problems to master before graduating to the harder problems.
Now the good. Let me start by saying that he is a GREAT teacher. He knows the material, he presents it well, he engages his students, and he speckles the material with entertaining stories from his own life. He invites questions and answers them fully.
Second, Fader is the REAL DEAL. He knows how to attract women and build comfort with them. Unlike the quasi-famous Mystery, who is tall and generally good-looking, Fader is neither tall nor exceptionally attractive. Like me, he comes off as a bit of a nerd. (He is, after all, a computer programmer.) I’m not saying he’s hideously unattractive, but he’s got no physical advantages with women. The ONLY weapons in his arsenal are: a) his words; b) his body language; and c) his attitude. He has perfected the art of using these “weapons” to attract women.
The course comes with a money-back guarantee. In the first five minutes of class, after seeing and briefly listening to Fader, I was certain that I would ask for my money back. How the hell could a guy like Fader have ANY success with attractive women? But when I saw him in the field, the proverbial lightbulb illuminated and I realized that he knows his shit.
He approached a 2-set (including a “9”) and I watched the interaction from a distance. (I couldn’t hear the words, but I observed body language.) At first, the “9” wasn’t the least bit interested. She backed up and gave him several IODs. Twenty minutes later, she was leaning into him and smiling. Another ten minutes later, she was laughing, twirling her hair, and his hands were all over her (kino escalation). He started with absolutely zero advantage, and within a half hour had legitimately gained the attention and attraction of a very attractive women. “Attraction is not a choice,” and Fader doesn’t give women a choice. He has engineered his words, his approach, and his body language to flip female attraction switches.
On the first day of class, he asked us about our goals for the class. I told him I wanted to significantly decrease my approach anxiety, and to learn to physically escalate with women and enjoy my interactions with them. During the two in-field exercises, I approached lots of sets and ended up attracting several attractive women. (I ended up making out with one and number closing another.) But I was worried that my successes were due to circumstance … would my skills continue once I got home? I didn’t want to write this review until after I’d had a weekend back in D.C.
So I went out sarging alone and then with a wing this past weekend. I blasted through dozens of approaches, I physically escalated with many women, and generally enjoyed my interactions with them. I am ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT that: a) I am going to be extremely successful with beautiful women; b) I now have the tools and confidence to work on and consistently improve my game; and c) these changes are in large part due to Fader’s BootCamp.
How much is this worth to me? Every penny that I paid. Fader’s course is expensive, but he delivered everything that I’d hoped – and more. He also keeps in touch with his students and provides ongoing help as needed. I highly recommend his course.
This was an amazingly fun workshop. A great group and many great times. I know this is short notice but I have put another nyc workshop on the schedule for Friday Oct 23rd. There are only two spots left. If anyone is interested I will not only be teaching the newest technology I have learned but I have a surprise or two in store
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