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    Stagnation - How to come out of it

    Right now I'm 27 years of age. I started out with pickup when I was 23. I have already approached a lot of girls, but all I got out of it was one lay and one kiss close. Picture that. 23, 24, 25, 26, 27. Five fucking years more or less wasted.

    All the time I see couples. I have never had a proper relationship, and I guess, I won't ever be used to being with a woman. Additionally I can't understand how a woman could want to be with me for a longer period of time. After all I still don't get why they stay with one guy and don't with another one. That's wrong, I cannot keep that in my mind is the right way to say it. I know it, then a short time later I knew it and then I will have forgotten it.

    I jerk off to porn regularily; the more frustrated I am the more I jerk off. Gunwitch once presented an exercise, which is about looking at your favorite porn and picturing yourself being with the actor instead of looking at her. Picturing her being on your lap, looking at you with a desire in her eyes. Fine, I became frustrated. I then thought to myself, well pick up shouldn't be so hard, went out, tried it again, failed at it again, went home again, and jerked off again.

    Today I was looking at a new flat share. One girl in it was totally sexy. I was talking to her and all of a sudden a friend said to her, that she's going to leave right now. I was alone with her. Intuitively I made her feel more and more attracted. But I didn't get that I was doing it, I felt like she being more and more rude and me just wanting to stick to my opinion and leave - after all she would be the one I'd replace my room with, so I don't have to like her. So finally she invented an excuse of having to learn and asked me to leave. Just for me to understand later on, what was really happening. You know this could have been a beginner's mistake. But I am not a fucking beginner anymore having been in the field for five years(!) And that happened often.

    I recently looked at my package of condoms. I noticed that the date of expiry expired. And all condoms were still inside. I threw them away. They were the most expensive ones I bought. For nothing.

    Gunwitch said, that "having sex is not that hard, in your close(if you're living in a city) surrounding there are at least five people having sex right now who know nothing about pu.". Fine, now I'm even insulted by a guru himselve for being too stupid for that oh so simple game called picking up women.

    I try method X, I try method Y, there's no quality management of any methods I am not sure if anything has ever worked I am missing scientific proof for anything, there is none so what can I do? And then all of a sudden this fucking approach anxiety comes along again, which officially I should not have anymore. Then of course my tonality drops, my voice sucks, and girls blow me off.

    I'm currently unemployed, so I'm struggling to find my way into the market by making myself self employed. And I have been trying for fucking four years. With hardly any success. Every fucking book about being self-employed states, that you have to have a good (private not business) relationship to support you if your business idea doesn't work out from the get-go. Nice. So I'm going out sarging again. So my failure in business leads over to having approach anxiety again, having a bad voice and being blown out again.

    As you are not involved, what do you suggest I could do?



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    Not enough detail. Your description is very broad. Your sticking points difficult to diagnose. Some questions:

    How long have you stuck with this or that system before you decided to try something else?

    Have you had 3 stickings points at a time and been working to get over those 3?

    On the flipside, according to BradP, one has to master the fundamentals first and foremost i.e. social anxiety, approach anxiety, conversational repertoire, body language, voice, etc. Have you mastered the fundamentals?

    What feedback sources have you taken advantage of?

    Here are some:

    Having a sarging journal where people give you feedback from your field reports

    Taking a bootcamp where instructors give you feedback.

    Posting infield sarging video/audio on the forum and receiving feedback

    Phone consultations

    etc.

    Have you been constantly going back to the drawing board and asking yourself how your progress that night related to your current sticking points and what you're doing to overcome them?

    There's something to be said about the QUALITY OF YOUR LEARNING PROCESS.

    If you don't learn to learn game the right way, then it's going to take a very long time for you to achieve the results you want to achieve.

    I have not learned game right myself, and am now living with the consequences of it. 3 years and 34 girls I have fucked. But they all are 5s to 7s. By now, if I learned game right, I could be fucking 8s and 9s by now.

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    And then you post troll threads here acting like you know what youre talking about?
    Joined the community few months ago. 26 fcloses. My latest was a virgin airlines hostess 5 years older than me.
    Its all about how you learn.
    I havent taken a bootcamp but i couldnt recommend it to you more.

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    By the way, thats 26 all daygame. I dont go clubs except to perform and i dont count those closes. Theyre easy.

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    Ram: There's more bragging than value in your post.

    HOW DID YOU LEARN?

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    How long have you stuck with this or that system before you decided to try something else?
    System would not be my choice of words. Do you remember the part about AA? I could not try a system consistently because my AA came back. So I started from the opener each time. With a lot of time in between. So having gone past the opener and the set hooked, I did not remember the steps which followed. So more or less I stayed in A1.

    Have you had 3 stickings points at a time and been working to get over those 3?
    Umm...What do you mean? Why exactly three?

    On the flipside, according to BradP, one has to master the fundamentals first and foremost i.e. social anxiety, approach anxiety, conversational repertoire, body language, voice, etc. Have you mastered the fundamentals?
    I doubt I could 'master' them because mystery even says that his AA doesn't wane. And this is congruent with my experiences. And - as experience and neurology state - you cannot keep things in your head forever if you don't use it, you won't lose the data but access to it. So I mastered all of it but there is no use because I have no access to it because the time in between was too large. Are you with me?

    What feedback sources have you taken advantage of?
    Only forums and I recorded my voice while doing the sarges. On Sunday I am going to meet an auspicious new wing.

    Having a sarging journal where people give you feedback from your field reports
    Hmm. Okay.

    Taking a bootcamp where instructors give you feedback.
    I'm currently unemployed, this is no good idea.

    Posting infield sarging video/audio on the forum and receiving feedback
    For this I need a wing. Let's see how it works out with the dude on sunday.

    Phone consultations
    I'm currently unemployed, this is no good idea.

    Have you been constantly going back to the drawing board and asking yourself how your progress that night related to your current sticking points and what you're doing to overcome them?
    No.

    What is right learning?

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    You think too much.
    Just do it, til it dies, then look back on what you did and think what you could have done better. No audio, just memory.
    Im highly self critical and have a good memory, plus good pua friends who i like talking to and good other friends who i teach at times, pretending to be au naturale daygame.
    I have goals, ambitions, drive, a life im unsatisfied with and the know how to get what i want.
    I like people and i dont care if people like me back..most are at least tolerant of that deviant friend of theirs.

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    Then fail. Dude look, honestly, im not gaming or playing reverse psychology on you.
    I thought id be helpful and post what worked for me, a relatively fit indian dude in london.
    I dont give a fuck about you, in all honesty. You go, do what youve been doing, and fail.
    I dont care. What i do like about you is that youve been in the game for years and are still a fuck up. A fuck up in denial.
    Get your head out your ass.

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    Geez, I hope his mum is calling soon for dinner.

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