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    Hi, another new female on the forum....

    Im new to this forum but have been posting in other places the past 2 years.
    Im a female PUA in training and also a wing for male PUA's.

    I wanted to introduce myself and ask for feedback on an article that I wrote that was posted over at cliffslist.com titled Female PUA: A new perspective by Kelly Monaco.



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    Hi Kelly, welcome on board, always good to have more female energy around. Your article is a good read. I always like hearing things from the female perspective and you have a good writing style. Love the surname btw, sounds like a cool character from a movie

    The one thing I'd comment on is the concept of 'value' as discussed in points 10 and 11. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me value is a lot closer linked to life values rather than anything materialistic. I look for a girl that is adventurous, outgoing and has some amount of independance. In particular I look for a passion about something, as I'm very passionate about my career and would want somebody who understands that. I don't really care if she has much material value or not. Mind you if I met a girl who was happy to sit at home on unemployment benefits and had no future aspirations I would move on quickly, or LJBF her.

    So while I understand assessing a person's wealth etc, I think the concept of life values could be a healthy addition to your article.
    I realize I may be misinterpreting or it may simply be different for girls. I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly_monaco View Post
    Im new to this forum but have been posting in other places the past 2 years.
    Im a female PUA in training and also a wing for male PUA's.

    I wanted to introduce myself and ask for feedback on an article that I wrote that was posted over at cliffslist.com titled Female PUA: A new perspective by Kelly Monaco.
    Welcome.

    I hope guys make you feel welcomed on here.

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    Thanks everyone!

    Led, getting back to you about the value concept that women judge men by that I mentioned in my article.
    I see what you are getting at with what I mentioned in points 10 and 11.
    I agree with you that value is also reflected in other ways (what you mentioned as life values).
    I want to write a follow up article about how to identify men of value and want the concept of value to be more about identifying someone that leads a healthy lifestyle, is succeeding at work, spends time with people they care about, has a positive mindset etc.
    Lots of my friends want to know how to identify these men when in club as all they have to go on is how the guy looks, his body language, and maybe a brief conversation.

    Let me know what you think of my findings so far:

    I started by asking my female friends what characteristics a man of value possesses.
    Here are the most common answers.
    1. Confidence
    2. Successful
    3. Intelligence
    4. Health and well-being both physically and emotionally
    5. Sensitive (I’m not so sure about including this one in my final article unless I can find a good explanation for it)

    A few more that I have been thinking about are
    1. Lack of fear
    2. Personal magnetism/sexual energy

    I think my next step after finding some common characteristics that women associate with value would be to discuss how they are projected in posture, tone of voice, touch etc.

    This is a bit sketchy at the moment but I will keep you posted if it turns into anything interesting.

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    Look forward to seeing it develope. I have to bail, but just quickly on the being sensitive thing - I see true alpha's as being very sensitive. I don't necessarily mean crying when you see fluffy bunnys kind of sensitive. I mean being sensitive to the wellbeing/emotion of those around you. The bulk of my opinion came from spending a lot of time with an ex's uncle. He's a millionare several times over, he can hire anyone to do anything. He's also a true alpha and a natural leader. The thing is whenever we were at gatherings at his place he would be totally aware of everybody there, and ensure they were ok. If somebody had an empty glass he would be the first there to fill it. If someone was sitting alone he'd go over and start an interesting conversation, then bring others into it to make the person that was alone feel part of the group. This went beyond simply being a good host. He genuinely cared about those around him, and instantly brought value to anyone there. Those who were down he raised up to his level. Doing things that you would think might be below him actually became great displays of his alphaness.
    I'll go into it more when I have more time, but I learnt a lot from him. It was the more sensitive side of him that made the big difference between being Alpha and simply being an asshole.
    Chat soon. Dinner time over here.....
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    Oh, it will be interesting to read your article

    I've posted quite a lot on this subject too. Here's one of my posts:

    A woman's version of "the game"



    Quote Originally Posted by kelly_monaco View Post
    Im new to this forum but have been posting in other places the past 2 years.
    Im a female PUA in training and also a wing for male PUA's.

    I wanted to introduce myself and ask for feedback on an article that I wrote that was posted over at cliffslist.com titled Female PUA: A new perspective by Kelly Monaco.

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    Thanks Fida, Ill check your article out.

    You have helped me alot Led. What I'm trying to do with this article I am writing is what you did when you gave examples about your uncle and how a successful alpha male will display these characterics.
    It is also along the lines of what Napoleon Hill ( author Think and Grow Rich) did when he interviewed successful men and found commonalities between them and explained how to adopt them for yourself and why they lead to success.

    I think such an article will help both men and women. Men who can adopt the traits and quantify how to display alpha male characteristics. And for women who want to be able to identify in men the qualities that are important for them to have a lasting and successful relationship.

    Fida, I read that post of yours, It was great!

    You took a new perspective to the subject and I think alot of women would go for female PUA stuff if it is presented like you wrote that post.

    Here is what I discovered when I researched female PUA material (this is an excerpt from my blog):

    Neil Strauss suggested to me reading Seductress: Women Who Ravished the World and Their Lost Art of Love by Betsy Prioleau.

    Link to an interview with the author The seductress - Salon.com

    Ars Amatoria. Latin meaning the art of seduction. Was written by Ovid a few centuries ago and is a Roman equivalent of the more widely known Kama Sutra although it focuses more on seduction and attraction and not on what happens after that.


    On first glance not very relevant to today but it makes for interesting reading and there are some things you can learn from it. I think what should be done with this book its to take some of the messages and make them relevant to today. Kinda like how Ross Jefferies took NLP previously only used in psycology and applied it to seduction.

    Ars Amatoria;Available for download from Google Book Search



    Something I am a bit hesitant about mentioning.
    The Satanic Witch by Anton LaVey. This is abit “out there” for most peoples taste. But… if you are looking for an EDGE I would recommend reading it.

    If you are a fan of Marilyn Manson you would enjoy this book. The title of this book is somewhat misleading but most of the contents is very logical and not centred on superstition or what most people view goths/satanists being about. Anton LaVey seems like a well researched and intelligent guy. You can find excerpts of this book if you google it or go to LaVeys website.



    Btw, I'v got a feeling a female version of The Game could possibly be on its way....
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    Seductress: Women Who Ravished the World and Their Lost Art of Love by Betsy Prioleau.

    Link to an interview with the author The seductress - Salon.com
    From the interview:

    "So how did Cleopatra, more dog than woman, seduce the most powerful man in the world?"

    LOL! Check my avatar, haha... Not that I think it was a cocker spaniel Cleopatra looked like but anyway

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