Thread: Seducers, the final destination...

It’s been some time since I posted a thread but I think everything I posted so far were just the pieces of a bigger picture. The road, that leads to the ultimate "specimen" in pick up. Many say that becoming a natural is the end of the road. I’ll respectfully disagree with this. For me the end of the road is becoming:

A Seducer

The process:

More or less we all know the way to become naturals. It’s what the community is all about:

- Fix the basics (grooming, clothing, body language , tonality etc)
- Work on inner game
- Read materials about pick up
- Start making a life plan (how to become successful in more than pick up)
- Go to the field (start interacting with women and get experience/feedback)
- Read more in depth material (psychology, evolutionary biology)
- Go to the field
- Learn more (anchoring, NLP etc) (And yes for great sex you need these)
- Go to the field
- Become a God in sex (and no, it’s not hard)

And then you reach the so called natural level. But these will take you so far... Something is missing.

But let’s go back a bit.

The differences

So you probably wonder what the difference is between a natural and a seducer. From personal experience and from people I’ve seen, talked and interacted I think I reached to the final conclusion. But before that I‘ll describe some of the less important differences that put together will give you the answer of the conclusion I reached.

While a natural has a deep understanding of women doesn't necessarily loves women. And I am not talking for romantic love. I am talking about appreciation and love of the individual woman. While a natural sees women as numbers, the seducer sees individuals. The connection between him and a woman reaches a far deeper level than the one someone that wants to just get laid reaches.

While a natural has value in his mind, the seducer tries to find what the woman lacks in life and give it to her. Of course value plays an important role sure, but the seducer will show value where the woman needs it. Let me explain. Everyone knows the attraction switches. What many people don’t know is that while you do have to cover all of them (or at least most of them), every woman has one attraction switch that is dominant in her life. For example:

- A woman seeks validation in a deeper level (daddy issues).
- Another woman wants to feel safe (protector of loved ones)
- Some other woman will be submissive (wants dominance and confidence)
- Some other woman will be closed (she wants reassurance)
And the list goes on.

The seducer, when he finds the dominant need of a woman, will concentrate on that one. The whole fairytale will be around that one. So his value will go up not because of what he has, but what he gives to the woman and how he makes her feel.

Another point I already mentioned is the fairytale. All women, no matter what they say, or show are romantic and sensitive creatures. You’ll know that the more you connect with them and the more you disregard the social mask they wear outside. When these girls go home they wear their PJs and watch movies and cry their hearts out. These women still have in their mind this: Romance and fairytale. Women are slaves to their emotions.

The seducer knows that. And no matter if he met her on the grocery store on in a strip club he’ll give her the romantic fairytale she needs. Since he comes from a position of dominance he can give hints of romance and at the same time use these to train the girl. (Good girl – reward, bad girl – punishment).

A candle lit dinner might not work for a natural because it is too early, but for a seducer is like weaving his web around her in a very subtle level. She’ll know that this person has something she can’t explain.

And this is another difference of the seducer. A seducer is a multi – dimensional person. He can be romantic, but at bed he can spank her silly. And then again after they finish, he’ll hold him in his arms and cuddle with her. He is an intellectual person, yet he is funny. He is an office person (work), but at weekends he does extreme sports. He’ll be ready to answer all questions with honesty, but he’ll have one or two secrets to create mystery. He can be dominant everywhere but in her arms he will open up and let the woman get a glimpse to his soul . He lives his life with honor, dignity and certain rules that he doesn’t break. And the list goes on. It’s all about depth.

Sex. For a seducer sex starts on the first time his eyes and her eyes lock and continues throughout the whole relationship till they break up and even after that. For him sex isn’t anchored in bed. For him sex can happen anytime, anywhere. He knows how he’ll make his woman wet in seconds and he’ll teach her ways to pleasure herself that not even she knew. A seducer gets pleasure from her pleasure.

For a seducer, his role in the life of the woman is also multi – dimensional. He will be a father that will advice her, a brother to protect her, a lover that will pleasure her, a husband that will provide for her.

All these have tremendous impact on a woman’s psyche. The seducer understands that the game he plays is a game with responsibility. He does understand that sooner or later he will become an important part of her life even if they are together or not. A woman might anchor him with so many emotions and attraction switches that will ruin her for other men. The comparison in her mind is just impossible. It’s like comparing a Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari (fill expensive car) with a Yugo.

So as you already understood this is the monumental difference. A seducer becomes a hallmark in the life of a woman. Someone that no matter how many years will pass, she ll still remember him as the greatest lover she ever had and will still get his advice or be available for him even if she is married to another man. And the seducer will always be there for her no matter if they have sex or not to the point where no one takes advantage of the other and as long as they respect the logistics of the times.

But that’s not all. One of the main differences is:

The seducer’s aura

Only way for most men to know if someone else is successful is to actually follow him through the whole process of picking up a girl to actually laying her, a seducer has something that just screams “I am all that”. That something is called a seducer’s aura. It’s the same as the successful man’s aura. For example when you are in a cocktail party being organized by your job once you enter you instantly know who the CEO is.

The seducer’s aura is something you can’t turn off. You walk in a venue and people look at you. You need no peacocking, you need no flashy clothes or accessories, you only need your confidence and a reality so strong that envelops the whole venue and you become a black hole drawing people near you. He is overwhelming yet easy to open. Men will open him, women will open him, the owner of the venue might come and introduce himself.

His moves are slow, almost hypnotizing, he always carries a half James Bond smile in his face, and his eyes don’t wonder around, because he knows he has everyone’s attention. It’s like in the movies where you see the hero on slow motion walking towards the camera. In his table or wherever he stands he is having fun. His social circle is top notch. His look can communicate all the right things to the women he looks when they look at him and get them by surprise. “I noticed you” and smiles.

This is something you only get from experience. And his whole image is just that. He needs no fancy stories, he needs no special words. His reality and his lifestyle talk for themselves. Even as a man you can recognize him from how he interacts with people. He gives value around him; he doesn’t try to take it. In return of course the value bounces back. He doesn’t even know that he does that. People brag that they know him.

He doesn’t need to be loved, because he loves himself. There is no void to be filled. He doesn’t need others to make him happy, he is already happy. His intuition is on another level. He barely needs 5 minutes with someone to size him up. He can see potential to those that have it. He is always on seduction mode. Be that with women or with his career. He makes no excuses for himself or for his choices and he doesn’t give a damn on what others think of him. He knows he is on the top of the world and his whole life reflects that. He is loved by many and hated by some. It’s part of the game and he knows it. Actually he loves it.

But the most important thing is that he has achieved what many Greeks and later everyone was after. Immortality. Because in the end he knows he will be remembered not as just another random guy. But for what he accomplished. Success in life, not just with women but in his career. I have yet to see a man that is amazing with women and not be amazing with his career too. And success isn’t something that you can hide.

In the end it’s not about the number of women that you have sex with. It’s about quality of the women and how you will become a monument to those women’s life. It’s how you bring their best self out, when even them didn’t know they had it. Taking them by their hand and showing them the possibilities of just being in his life.

And that my friends is what a seducer is all about.

Hope you enjoyed it.

Silverghost

Very inspiring.

Better than some MPUA articles i've read. You kick ass.

simply amazing..

I really like these two lines

"He doesn’t need to be loved, because he loves himself. There is no void to be filled. He doesn’t need others to make him happy, he is already happy."
This is what makes everyone attracted to him

"He will be a father that will advice her, a brother to protect her, a lover that will pleasure her, a husband that will provide for her."

Damnit.

We actually had a bet going on which one of us would write this article first. I lost, so the first couple rounds are on me, ghost! lol

Great article, well-written, in-depth, and one hell of an inspirational post.

Best of Forum. Put it in.

This should be in Best of forum, i agree with you a lot, the bad part about this, is the fact that the woman develop & have a DEEP connection and when you cut that connection, it's a lot of drama, that's why i think we should use all of this in a wise way.

Just as a part of the song billie Jean from michael jackson:

"People always told me be careful of what you do
And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts "

At least, just in my opinion.

I swear I could hear a Hans Zimmer piece in the background.
Very inspiring, Best of Forum.

Text has some god points,I agree.

What you just did is described alpha.

With a little bit of poetry.


My view of things is little less romantic.I see human (woman) stupidity and superficiality as a resources to exploit.

Thanks everyone. Just the fact that my thread helps you or inspires you makes me want to try harder to reach this final destination and actually give back. As you see all human relationships are give and take. I write a thread, people get something out of it, and this gives me an obligation to move forward and become a better person and through my experience give back to the same people (and not only) as a thanks.

Temptilian thanks man
Docter Thank you mate that honors me
Oswald thanks. At that level you give back to those around you for a simple reason. Because you can.
CMPitts Thanks bro. I ll take you up on this bet when I move there haha!
Don gato Thanks . Who said you need to cut connections? you are straight in what you want from her and she ll comply. You know why? Its the same as someone offering you a Ferrari. But he tells you you can only use it for 3 hours and only on Wednesday. Guess what. You are gonna accept. You dont get a chance like that every day. Same with the seducer. Just the fact that you met him makes you go on his terms
Voodooz Thanks! Is this good? :

[ame=http://www.youtube .com/watch?v=0AC4ovCUs4Y]YouTube - Hans Zimmer - A Way of Life[/ame]

suncica2222 thanks man. Whatever gets you through life man use it. We are not immortals so we need to use every resource to make our goals true. Ofcourse as we say in PR: Money arent what moves this earth. People are what moves this earth. Have people by yourside that you can trust and you ll become immortal.

An awesome post mate. So a natural sleeps with girls for himself and seducer does it to give the girl the best experience she has ever had with a guy?