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    Need help with fuck close

    Guys I'm having problems with closing out for a fuck on women that I've picked up. I keep losing control and end up making the girl look like the decision master.

    Case in point I recently been dating a girl for 2 months and haven't got past the kissing stage yet despite all my best efforts. I met her at at the library. She was asking the librarian for some help and I offered my expertise. We got to chatting and then I offered her out for a coffee.

    She has her own place but as yet I've not been able to spend the night with her even though we end up there a lot after our dates.

    I haven't broached the subject of sex but whenever it gets toward midnight she always hints like, " I'm really tired now and got an early start for work tomorrow", which is basically my cue to leave. We end up on the couch with a kiss and cuddle and that's as far as she will let it go.

    I'm sounding like a fucking chump at the moment but don't know what to say to her to make her feel more comfortable. I've done well to get her comfortable with me and holding hands when we're out etc. But she still accuses me of being a playa (she says it in a friendly way "how do I know if you've got a girlfriend or not?") and I never know how to respond.

    Just got to get her comfortable enough for the final scene and I know I can fuck her. Need to be able to have pre arranged responses to her objections.

    Any help guys?



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    It sounds like you may not have qualified her yet. It could also just be a girl who has "rules" for herself like she goes out with a guy a certain number of times before she bangs them.
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    It also sounds like you aren't really escalating physically... there is usually no need for a conversation about sex. One thing should lead to another. Kissing to makeout to groping, etc.

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    The physical escalation is important. I do however think you should also talk about sex. Not in a silly way like 'how many guys have you slept with'. But you can ask her if she is an imaginative/creative person, if she has any fantasies, how sex makes her feel, what she likes doing the most etc. And be collected and confident when speaking about sex, you need to demonstrate you are in control and not overly excitable (abundance mentality). The more you say and do the more she associates sex with you and the more she thinks about it.

    As far as physical escaltion goes change things up: when you are making out touch different parts of her body, see what she responds well to...try and progress a bit further every time.

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    why don't you leave the house before she asks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    How old are you both? Is she a virgin?
    Mid twenties us both. No she's not a virgin, had an ex-boyfriend who she bitches about a lot. Why do you ask?

    Quote Originally Posted by craze9 View Post
    It also sounds like you aren't really escalating physically... there is usually no need for a conversation about sex. One thing should lead to another. Kissing to makeout to groping, etc.
    She always stops things by saying "no I can't kiss you again, you've already had three kisses." Drives me batshit, I never have a jokey response for reply and end up ceeding control of the situation to her. I'd have already kicked her into touch by now except that she's hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peters View Post
    Mid twenties us both. No she's not a virgin, had an ex-boyfriend who she bitches about a lot. Why do you ask?



    She always stops things by saying "no I can't kiss you again, you've already had three kisses." Drives me batshit,
    Ok after reading that "I" would probably freeze her out. Just hang out with her and build attraction through touching and things you say and stuff but don't ever try and go for anything physical. If she tries to go for something physical don't stop her just don't take any further.

    e.g. she goes to kiss you, kiss back but don't keep trying to kiss her, just kiss her that time and then when it ends say "yummy" or something and continue to watch your movie or whatever and be completely unphased like you forgot that even happened.

    But that's just what I would try to see how she reacts to it. It's tough to see what she's doing without being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peters View Post
    Mid twenties us both. No she's not a virgin, had an ex-boyfriend who she bitches about a lot. Why do you ask?
    Different answer if she's young and/or a virgin.
    She always stops things by saying "no I can't kiss you again, you've already had three kisses." Drives me batshit, I never have a jokey response for reply and end up ceeding control of the situation to her.
    Oof. I am not confident this can be turned around if this is where things stand two months in. She is tooling you with this behavior. Why do you tolerate it?
    I'd have already kicked her into touch by now except that she's hot
    That is the story of this girl's life. She shits on guys who will tolerate it because she's hot. Because you are unwilling to walk and are acting very needy for escalation, she can walk all over you.

    This place is about learning that there are lots of hot girls out there, including nice ones. Kick this girl to the curb, and you may find that she's suddenly a lot more willing to close. Either way, you'll have recovered some self-respect.

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