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    Social Skills before Seduction Skills?

    You know pretty much all the dating products out there just focus on how to get woman, etc... Sometimes they talk about getting a mentor to help you out. But really, they generally just ignore normal Social Skills towards people you'd want to have as friends.

    Some people might say that you should actually have a normal social life and have at least better then avarage social skills before starting with the seduction skills. One person I know just can't imagine seduction skills to be of any use if you don't have your social life together. He thinks you need to be a well-rounded person before going down the seduction road.

    But what do you guys thinks? Should having a healthy social life come before going down the seduction road, or can you lead a healthy life solely through seduction skills?



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    Yes. It's good you pointed it out.


    However, PUA Bootcamps and product address the following question: "How to get women"


    If the question was: "how to build social life" then there would be Social Life Bootcamps. And there are. You just have to search for them OUTSIDE of PUA community.


    How to do better socially | Free practical advice on social skills, getting along with people, and getting your act together is a guy writing blogs NON profit. He got fedup with PUA community and decided to write his own version of social game.

    You want to have bigger social life? Read my posts in my signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueStory View Post
    Yes. It's good you pointed it out.


    However, PUA Bootcamps and product address the following question: "How to get women"


    If the question was: "how to build social life" then there would be Social Life Bootcamps. And there are. You just have to search for them OUTSIDE of PUA community.


    How to do better socially | Free practical advice on social skills, getting along with people, and getting your act together is a guy writing blogs NON profit. He got fedup with PUA community and decided to write his own version of social game.

    You want to have bigger social life? Read my posts in my signature.
    I've got to say your posts regarding social interactions, etc... are probably the most useful and "real" thing I've read since searching for social interaction help.

    Most of the stuff on the internet is just naive unrealistic idealistic generic general common sensical advice like "Be Yourself" or "Treat people like you'd want to be treated", etc...

    Your posts are the closest thing to practical advice I've seen in a long time, so thanks a lot for taking the time to share that kind of knowledge.

    And yes, I know the succeedsocially site, which is probably a good start if you're seriously hampered in social skills. But it's actual advice for getting a social life is "be a good person allround", which I agree with, but does not supply actual techniques.

    It is realistic, but your posts were even more realistic and pragmatic imo.

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    So my question'd be, since you seem to be pretty smart in the social interactions department, what sites would you recommend for improving ones social situation? Besides the 'social circle' program from this sites sponsor, that looks good so I'm already gonna check it out.

    Thanks again anyway for your highly informative posts.

    - Btw your Blog link doesn't work, or there's something with your site.

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    Thanks man!

    Quote Originally Posted by shinydiscoball View Post
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    So my question'd be, since you seem to be pretty smart in the social interactions department, what sites would you recommend for improving ones social situation?
    a "site" called Real Life Experience.

    Because, you can read all the theories, even practical posts, but you will never learn unless you get out there yourself.

    I didn't become social over night. It took me years of fucking up and failing to get where i am right now.

    Being social is like body building. A social muscle you have to excercise to keep it strong and toned.

    I know sounds kind of pathetic and theoretic but it's the truth.


    - Btw your Blog link doesn't work, or there's something with your site.
    Dude I know. I am battling with my hosting company. You have no idea what those idiots did.

    That's a story for another forum.
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    I actually agree with your friend OP. This is why this forum is so active. Its because a lot of the guys memorize openers, they dont think of approaching women the way you would any other person, by striking up an interesting conversation. All an opener is suppose to represent, is a way of approaching a girl thats not so typical, is more assertive and is more likely to trigger a conversation allowing you to build on comfort and attraction. Again, due to their lack of social skills, they have no idea how to respond to certain shit test texts or statements made by girls, when conversing, they come here and post about it. Its much better to have a healthy social life then a hot one night stand, because the social life is around the next day. So, if you were armed with all this knowledge, your best bet would be to work on you first, before you work on seduction. Improve yourself to the best of your ability.. when you embrace an alpha life style, everything else will come naturally to you, BECAUSE you will implement it in EVERY area of your life, NOT just women. The psychology behind how to pick up women, can be applied to ALL human beings. You can use it on your boss to get ahead at work or get that promotion you're seeking. You can use it on your friends, to gain QUALITY friends, not the flakey kind. You will naturally know how to respond to the actions of women... ..but most importantly, you'll really be and feel like an alpha male. You wont have inner game issues. Now although a lot of guys do learn how to better themselves through learning how to seduce women, I think a lot of the knowledge they have is surface only. This knowledge is enough for them to pick up a HB9-10, fuck her on the first or second date and then drop her, or pick up 2-3 HBs at the same time. As soon as things get a little bit more complicated and non routine.. as soon as they come across something that doesnt have an automatic answer from the forums, they struggle. They dont know how to use their inner alphaness to handle the situation.. and thats because they havent really developed an alpha male within them.. they're still very much the beta male, pretending and wearing a mask of an alpha male with all the lines in his back pocket.

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    hopefully you(and i) can work on them at the same time.

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    To me social skills are the light, the seduction skills are the dark. It's good to have the blend. I don't think you have to work on one before the other.


    Quote Originally Posted by shinydiscoball View Post
    You know pretty much all the dating products out there just focus on how to get woman, etc... Sometimes they talk about getting a mentor to help you out. But really, they generally just ignore normal Social Skills towards people you'd want to have as friends.

    Some people might say that you should actually have a normal social life and have at least better then avarage social skills before starting with the seduction skills. One person I know just can't imagine seduction skills to be of any use if you don't have your social life together. He thinks you need to be a well-rounded person before going down the seduction road.

    But what do you guys thinks? Should having a healthy social life come before going down the seduction road, or can you lead a healthy life solely through seduction skills?

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