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It's day 3, and I'm writing this the morning before our ...
Day 3 - Keychain
It's day 3, and I'm writing this the morning before our first night-game session with 5.0. I'm sitting here going over my notes on Mr.M's Opening lecture and reviewing the openers I've used in the past...to mix things up a bit, I really want to try a couple of functional openers like the kind Mr.M discussed, rather than fall back on my own opinion openers (which follow the standard community structure but with my own material swapped in).
I'm a little apprehensive about the session tonight, most of the other Rockstars have been on a bootcamp before (one of them has even helped out on bootcamps!). I've run game lots and I love being social and meeting new people, but I've never done any of that under the watchful eye of an instructor like 5.0! Suffice to say, I'm expecting quite a steep learning curve.
But that's what we're all here for. I'm apprehensive yes, but I'm excited in equal measure. And I look ahead over the next week and realise that we'll be going out every single night - tonight, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday...and then the same thing for seven more weeks, all with top instructor input. The true scope of this project, and what we might learn, is only gradually sinking in for me...
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'It was literally my first step away from books and towards... people (*gasp*). From 0 to direct openers in less than 1 hour, what more do I need to say? That guy makes it easy!' - Joave
'I've made more progress in a few hours with him, than probably hundreds of hours unaided...and to think there was a point in my life when I thought I would die a virgin.' - Will33t
'As I approached women, we began to chip away at my technique, refining it with each approach...' - StudentX
Physical assessment with London_Hunk yesterday. Loads of information, I got there at 4:30pm and ended up picking his brain until 10:00pm. He is bursting with useful information on an array of topics from game to becoming a complete man. This has been covered in Style’s infamous article on “Social Robots” and other instructors with foresight have a similar message. Clearly, there is more to life than game, but the funny thing is, when you improve other areas of your life it should help your game. This is why good instructors encourage creating DHV stories from personal experiences and to lead an interesting lifestyle that will naturally DHV.
Be healthy and fit. Be wealthy enough to take care of other people. That’s attractive.
This all seems pretty obvious when you read it, but to practice it takes hard work. How much time do you waste not working on these 3 goals? *raise hand* I know I have spent time doing things that in retrospect weren’t aligned to these bullet points. Time for change.
On another note, I’ve finished all the books assigned to us for Project Rockstar. I’m glad I did because looking at the physical training, scheduled meetings/lectures, plus extra activities I doubt I’ll have much time to spend with books. If I do, I will most likely re-read psycho-cybernetics and do the recommended practice exercises. Over the course of the next 8 weeks I’m going to review the products I’ve gone through and let you know my take.
The book I just finished was Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman. It’s the type of book made for business types who want to improve their soft skills. The creative reader can gather some relevant points for a budding PUA. I recommend skipping straight to chapter 8 “social arts” then going back and reading some of the early chapters. I would also skip and skim the last few chapters if you’re looking for just pua relevant material. Goleman covers the biological what/why’s of the human emotion.
Here’s what I got out of it:
*Children from an early age show great differences in emotional intelligence versus book smart /IQ. Nature vs Nurture debate exists. Bottom line, a child with high EQ is probably going to have an easier time with PU at 18 years old.
*The human brain is distinguished from other mammals by well developed frontal lobe. This is the area of growing maturity and self-regulation that occurs as we grow from infant, child, and adult. The human brain is wired to process sensory information through the amygdala (emotional) and frontal lobe (logical). However, in certain situations sensory information will take the shorter path and bypass the frontal lobe and conscious/logical thought. If you've heard of the concept of microexpressions and thin slicing (from Gladwell's Blink), my suspicion is that is the reason they exist. Our bodies will do things that we don't have time to rationalize and control.
[insert ancient pua proverb] Attraction is not a choice.
*Despite the fact that IQ is considered the book smart score, EQ can influence your ability to learn and gain knowledge and the AWESOME thing is you can improve EQ with practice.
*EQ is a factor of your temperament, awareness of your inner emotions, ability to read other’s emotions, ability to respond to others.
*Just like IQ includes math, verbal, logic, etc. EQ has different subcategories to excel in. High EQ’ers can excel in empathy, leadership, (a couple other categories I can’t remember atm)
Would I recommend it? Yes, if you’re interested in the technical/biological details of emotional intelligence. No, if you’re looking for tangible action points. No, if you’re pretty familiar with the concept of emotional intelligence from a light science article would probably tell you all you needed to know.
Last edited by black_swan; 07-08-2008 at 06:12 AM.
Some exceptional theory work. If you understand how feelings and perceptions are formed, you can also figure out how to improve them when related to yourself.
Originally Posted by Starlight
Abraham Lincoln reportedly said that, Given eight hours to chop down a tree, he'd spend six sharpening his axe.
So I'm in a bit of a malaise. Last night I finally had a day2 sorted with a girl from like 2 months ago. And suddenly I didn't feel like going. I was stuck in an extended Rockstar meeting with London_Hunk and I was just worn out. I was getting my body scientifically measure. Little secret, it wasn't great. I mean on one level I am wicked pleased with my body so far. But the glass is still only half full. I mean me weight is down to 89kg, but I need to drop like 12 more kg.....
Anyways, I am late and we set it up for later. Then I decide to try and set up a Day2 with HBspanish from the train on Sunday. She lives right near my house. Glass of wine...a little comfort...shag. But I cant' sort it out. I call her...she's on a train (irony) and can't hear me. She calls me back 15 mins later but I'm on the tube so I miss it. And I never reach her again. Sigh. I suck at phone game. Then at like 11 the other girl texts that she guesses I'm not coming. To be honest my attraction just dipped.
Now a girl I Day2ed but ejected from quickly 2 months ago texted today. She wanted to go out Friday night, but I am out Rockstarring then, so instead of I her coming over tomorrow afternoon. I don't even know why? I just kind of did it to do it. I swear. Last time she was totally dressed down. Like flip flops and track pants. I mean that is pretty insulting. I am cute! Anyways...I have these girls I'm bouncing.
Also, I have my HB10 back on the line. This was my direct approach with Soul, street-night game like a month ago? I facebook closed her as she had no mobile (maybe) and she just popped on and added me yesterday and emailed me. Good Lord she is so cute in all her pics. She's got a kid, but I've got a hairy back. Facebook chat sucks so bad, but then I got her msn. We added each other but she hasn't popped on yet. She lives in another different city (not London of course), but she is really sexy. And yes, by sexy I mean rail thin and brunette ok?
Also my x from Thailand found me the other week and we have been webcamming some. I haven't seen her online since last week tho. I got her house mate to pull her top up while she was asleep. Obviously, I recorded all this jazz, but it's way better in the moment. Soul tried to get in on 3way online spitroast, but she wasn't interested. In Thailand only the men are bi.
I think those are all the girls I have on the line........no wait....I tell a lie.
I have been getting texts from a Polish girl I met at the Eric Clapton concert. She hit me up at 1am last night. I have to convert her somehow soon. I keep sleeping through her texts. Lately, I have woken up half a dozen times with my phone open to a text I don't remember reading. Thank God I haven't sleep-replied yet!
Ok. That's it. The girls I don't wanna shag wanna shag me. And logistics are between me and the girls I want to shag. I called HBSpanish tonight, but no answer. Might call again next week. But now my attraction is waning. All the other Rockstars are out tonight sarging with 5.0, who is one sound guy. And I am stuck at home trying to finish my essays for uni.
It sounds almost as bad as if you got vomited on on your first bootcamp in-field portion... (can you post a link to that FR/review somewhere here BTW - THE best and most famous bootcamp report EVER)
JD, the only thing I have to say to you is 'hang in there'. It's all worth it in the end. Trust me. It's like the New Kids on the Block Used to say:
Step by Step, oh baby, I'm gonna get to you giiirrrrlll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ5eZSa7URA
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.
- Theodore Roosevelt
Ya everyone seems to have heard of my famous bootcamp experience. TBH getting puked on was the best thing that ever happened to me!
Project Rockstar - Day 3 - Starlight
Oh man, what a day....and it's not even over. Here is the play by play so far:
12:05am - I just checked into the Radisson at Stansted Airport now I am at the arrivals area waiting for my sexy French Au Pair to arrive from Riga. We've known each other for years and have had a wonderful long-distance open relationship...she has a 10-hour layover and then I won't see her for who knows how long. Time to do it right...in style, with class. We walk arm in arm to the Radisson and freshen up, catch up for a couple hours then experience the heights of passion until sunrise
5:00a - We talk about Game and, unprompted, she confirms many of the principles of Game; that the push-pull of sexual tension is essential to stay interested. That supplicating is not attractive at all. A guy who has options and is non-needy but choses to focus his attention on her IS sexy. I tell her that she is confirming so many things that the community has uncovered and show here a couple routines...lying naked in bed, like kino escalation while occupying the logical mind and take-aways. It's fun. I'm tired
9:00a - alarm. She leaves. I remember London Hunk saying to get 8 hours of sleep everynight. I go back to bed.
12:30p - Aaaah, that's better. 8 hours clocked. I check out and head back into London proper. I need to find a place to live, a few hours in an internet cafe provide some leads.
5:00p - Game Time Baby! Black Swan and I meet Dr. Yen at Covent Garden and my mind gets blown straight away.
Dr Yen: Whats up bro? Ok, here's what you do - walk up to the hottest girl you see, grab her arm, face her and tell her she is fucking gorgeous. Her! There, go in.
Starlight: Hey, I wouldn't normally do this but I'd seriously regret it if I didn't tell you...you look Fucking gorgeous today.
Girl: uh, thanks! and she blushes, I smile. case closed
Dr Yen: Cool, now you're going to go a bit further. Stop her, tell her the same then ask if she's single. Go further if you like. HER - go in now.
Starlight: Hey, listen, you look fucking beautiful today!
Girl 2: Oh my god thanks!
Starlight: you're not from around here are you? I'm guessing Australia (no), New Zealand (no), the Greater UK? Ding! - Third times the charm. Then we banter for a bit. She has a boyfriend that she loves dearly. Pleased to meet you.
This went on for a solid two hours. Black Swan and I would complete sets and come back to Dr Yen who'd be kicking it near a lampost or whatever. He'd break down the approach and give feedback then, suddenly "Oh shit, look at that fucking Brunette! Go in, go go" - and soon we were into it, literally running down the street grabbing girls turning them around and telling them that they look f*cking hot!
I would say that I personally made 3 girls' days by the smile on their face or the blush. I got some weird looks and one girl didn't believe I was serious - "What are you kidding me?! Look in the mirror, you're hot!" says I
No joke though, it took a lot of energy and I had a dry mouth from some unconscious anxiety. In any case Dr Yen is The Man. Period. He has one of the best looks of any dude (in a totally hetero way and speaks freely what most guys keep inside or talk around.
These quotes sum up my feelings on Dr Yen:
"One time I pulled the emergency break on a bus and jumped off to run after a f*cking smoking chic!"
"I'm shit at comfort, I just play attraction, attraction, attraction...then a little more attraction once I get through with that"
OK - now it's 7p and I gotta get a little work in, plus I'm wearing the same clothes as yesterday and need a change so I head to Mr M's and grab my bag, write half of this post, scarf down a healthy sandwich and catch the Tube to Haymarket to meet the Rockstars and 5.0 for our first night out on the town.
5.0 is a cool looking dude and has a great vibe. We were both shocked to learn that like 85% of our wardrobes come from Moist on Melrose Ave in LA!!! My fav store in the world.
Very cool to be out at a club with the other Rockstars and be flying in and out of sets, winging each other and getting real time feedback from 5.0
After 3 hours and about 10-12 sets I am feeling it in a big way. Plus no drinking per London Hulk's new diet for us. By the way, how the fuck am I not going to drink for 8 weeks???!!! Those supplements better rock my world dude
One fun standout moment in set: I was talking with three Aussie chics, one of whom was smoking, and Halloween came up
Starlight: "Wait, you guys don't have Halloween, what are you talking about?"
Aussies: Yeah but we've got other holidays
Me: Like what kangaroo day? Aren't they your mascot or something?
Them: No, ha ha, we hate kangaroos...actually sometimes people round up and kill a bunch of them, they're pests..."
Me: Whoa, your a kangaroo-killer! Oh my god, I'm an animal rights activist, I'm calling you out!" Smile
Fun time - and walking home the 5 of us Rockstars got a group shot in front of a fountain with horses galloping and water spilling out. This is the beginning. This is just the beginning
___________________________________________ Jesse Starlight
, Love Systems Instructor
Day Game / Dating Coach / Lifestyle Design It all started on Project Rockstar 2008. Read My Life Transformation Check Out Some of My Reviews www.LoveSystems.com/Starlight
For the in-field portion of the Day Game seminar I went out with Starlight from last year's Project Rockstar. I can honestly say that this guy made me feel like he was an old buddy who was teaching me something new. He was so upbeat and provided such great feedback that just the infield part made it all worth it. He kept providing feedback in a very productive manner. All the instructors were great but a special shotout to Starlight, this guy is awesome. If you guys have a chance to work with him do it. He honestly is just a very positive upbeat person who will feel more like a friend than an instructor.
for 1-to-1s and other training.
Project Rockstar: 5.0 - First night sarge (Day 3)
With the other rockstars, we went out for our first night sarge and was it awesome. I have always used alcohol as a 'aid' when sarging. After yesterdays talk with London Hunk, tonight was only going to be with water.
The instructor kicking off our first night sarge was 5.0. I had previously taken a bootcamp with 5.0 and he was and still is awesome at body language, kino and has specialised in online game. This guy knows his stuff and pushes you into sets.
We arrived at the Sports Bar at 9pm. It started quietly but by 10pm the place was rocking.
My first few openers bombed. Oh well, shit happens... don't take it personally.
And then some sets just hooked. One of the best was one that 5.0 made me enter, and it worked pretty damn well. I had locked in and it was going fine. I do need to raise the stacks and pull the trigger more... ie. heavier kino, more energy, playful, and more sexual/direct.
Seriously, even though this is the first night I totally understand one thing. You really will only learn by going out. I know its hard and I'm damn lucky to be part of this project but if you're seriously about improving this aspect of your life... Make approaches! I was always worried that people would remember me when I'm sarging and its so crap for 4 reasons:
1) You need to learn! You can't learn without approaching!!!!
2) There are loaaads of girls. I can't grasp the number but theres plenty more if you screw one set up. Move on......
3) EVEN if you get blown out most of the time, you still look like you know a lot of people at the bar/club and when you aren't blown out, and if you lock in, you look damn cool and other girls will remember.
and most importantly...
4) WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT OTHERS THINK ANYWAY (This is in caps and bold as much as for myself than anyone else. It needs to be emphasised.) Its fun.
Make a decision about what you want and don't stop until you achieve it.
Awesome night. Shame about work tomorrow. I need sleep. Roll on Day 4
How the hell did I miss this?
Hahaha, that had me cracking up.
Me: Like what kangaroo day?
Sooo true. People always look at other people and think, "Wow! How did they get so good?" The fact is most of the time it's just hours on the court...
1) You need to learn! You can't learn without approaching!!!!
You guys rock.
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