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Shit test: I don't give out my phone number.
"I don't give out my phone number" shit test.
At this point you have probably not followed the model properly and gotten yourself in a bit of a hole, but not is all lost. A good comeback can get you right back in the mix.
My comeback: "Well you did graduate from _____, I didn't expect you to be able to remember 10 digits."
What should be your next move after you successfully pass a shit test like this? Keep building attraction, funny story? My example could be considered a neg, should you give her an opportunity to build her back up?
What is your response to this shit test, and how would you move on from there?
My response would be: "It was a pleasure meeting you..." And then I'd be off, looking for friendlier terrain. That's a big test to pass, you'd have to convince her that she was wrong about her values... Now you say, I've got number closes from girls that said she has a boyfriend... This is almost two different things, When she says I have a boyfriend, she is just telling you her status, if she said, "I have a boyfriend, that I would never cheat on," She's telling you about her values, harder to break...
well. first of all he's right that you have made a mistake but it's not unconquerable. The correct thing to do is go back into attraction and comfort. Rebuild your value. Not walking away is itself a DHV because it shows confidence. Livershop i recomend you try the mindset of "I'm not leaving a set until they walk away or tell me specifically to leave". You will get a lot better faster as it sounds like this is your sticking point, ejecting too soon. What you actually say about her number is almost irrelevant as long as you keep plowing! I'm not so sure about the neg, as my game is not really about negs......... but that's just me. Have you field tested this a lot?
if she's straight up trying to blow you off u don't need her... there's lots of other girls to talk to... smoothly say farewell and move on...
but it could be that you have a little bit of attraction and just need to turn it up to get the digits... so how do u build more attraction after she just turned down the number exchange?
is ur line field tested? reacting with an insult is low value... a neg isn't supposed to be an insult... it's a disqualifier that lets her know ur not interested ...
i would suggest being far less reactive to her holding her number... like "i don't blame u... u don't meet nice guys in bars / clubs" ... and then transition to another routine... maybe about bars, clubs, guys and girls, whatever...
Yup. Bang on. Usually it's lack of attraction, but it could also be a boyfriend. Another possible situation (less common) is she's worried that her friends will hear or see her giving her phone number. Most of the time, women won't care, but in certain circles of "9s" and "10s", there is social pressure on everyone in the group to appear unattainable.
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you didn't convey enough attraction. This happens to me alot when I'm only in the set for 5-10 min and ask for a number before leaving. They almost always say ( 99% of time ) "I don't give my number to strange/random men" Key words there strange or random. If you convey enough attraction and then do a small about of qualification, they will probably give it out. If not, then you are just some random dude they are talking with.
Also, Savoy is pretty dead on with the fact that sometimes no matter what you do or say, there social pressure restricts them from giving it out.
I got that a few weeks ago from a girl at a concert. My first ever rejection. I couldn't continue talking because the guy she was with was coming back into the room any minute (I had been talking to her before the guy showed up). She didn't reject with "I have a BF" so I assumed he wasn't a BF (think they were on a first/early date)...... She said "I don't give my number to guys"... In retrospect, I guess I could have said something like "oh, you just give your number to girls... " or something like that.. but, my reaction was to laugh and say "whatever" with a big smile on still and turn away (stayed in the same spot too)... At that point I didn't care, it was for practice anyway
Usually I have a reason to ask for their number other than wanting a date.. "give me a call so I can let you know about..." and if they go "I don't give out my number to guys", I'll just go 'too bad because I had a VIP/backstage pass/free tickets to ..., but it was really nice to meet you". I might be lying, I might be telling the truth.
You can just lay out the plan of what you were going to do with her on day 2 and just go "that's fine, you'd probably be bored doing that, it's prob. not something you're into". Assuming you've already found out what she was interested in, you start namedropping restaurants you weren't going to take her to, but want to make the dig that she blew it with you, not the other way around.
Another bad thing is when your "connections" screw you over and you feel like a douchebag.
I'm can twist it where if she says she has a bf, I turn "her" into "they", and bring up other girls I'm seeing, and I start asking about the guy, and start asking questions about him. It's no different than if it's some married chick. And some of these "I have a bf" are out because something is up with her and the guy. It might turn into a ONS. Point is, no ring, he's not there, what the hell. I've heard "if he ever found out, he'd kill you". To which I'd tell her "only one person would slip up, right? And you don't know what he's up to either!". Where is your boyfriend, sweetheart?? That's what I thought!!
I might even text a girl I'm seeing in front of her... Sometimes she'll give me the number, and she winds up having a "free night" when her and HER "bf" are on the outs.
Or you just give her your card and drop it in her purse when she's not looking. Guys usually don't dig through girls' purses. Can't say the same is true about women snooping through a man's wallet though.
I tend to do the same thing regarding telling the girl it's a mistake for her to do that because you going to do 'such and such'. I will usually respond with "I don't give out my number to girls either and then say "It's too bad because "blah blah" would have been a lot of fun. Then I'd move on to another girl.
Originally Posted by sdnightfly
On a few occasions this has happened the girl changed her mind and started talking to me and honestly when girls do that I'm actually kind of defensive and don't really care about them too much because they're playing games or looking for a free ticket for a good time. Only once I actually decided to take the girl's number when she changed her mind and every other time I simply moved on. In the instance where I took her number I didn't call her for a couple days and said I had other plans for the thing I was going to do and then never contacted her again but she started chasing me. But that's another story entirely.
In essence, I'd just move on, it's her loss.