Unattachment & Indifference

Discuss Unattachment & Indifference at the General Discussion within the The Attraction Forums. Dating Advice.; In the past I have studied Buddhism, Zen, Taoism and the like, and while I ...

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    In the past I have studied Buddhism, Zen, Taoism and the like, and while I have gotten some real value out of them, I always have had the sense that they arose in a different context of time and place, which, despite their universality of insight, made them somehow a little inaccessible, a bit to esoteric to our modern western world. Certainly, sitting meditation wasn't doing it for me- I am just too much a westernized son-of-a-bitch. And martial arts seemed too codified and heirarchical, not to mention all the physical wear-and-tear!

    In my life I have found three "paths" of western origin that have led to a more immediate and compelling use of the same principles (unattachment, awareness, compassion, etc.). They have been, in order, science, athletics and most recently, seduction. Of the first two, I feel that I have attained some level of mastery, where I feel freedom to engage life deeply from the prism of challenges that they offer.

    With seduction I feel compelled in a newer, fresher way, drawn into the adventure of the "beginner's mind", where reinventing reality has revelations on a daily and even momentary level. I love how the little "aha!" moments and release of inner baggage reveals the true nature of women, men and the experience of life. Truly this a path that gives the possibility of complete, conscious freedom in a world that is constrained and bound by attachment and desire.

    It feels to me that seduction arts is potentially as significant a contribution to collective human evolution as any art, science or philosophy you care to compare it to. It is a matter of our own inititative to carry out the revolutionary liberating potential within ourselves, as well as with others. Threads like this are little pebbles hitting the water, sending ripples in all directions, which can lead to simple yet profound changes in people and society.

    Breathe in the process, and the outcome wil be breathtaking.



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    Great post Fader. I'm curious, do you think attachments are the same as addictions? How does someone's emotions affect and relate to an attachment? To me it seems like we get emotionally attached to something and the good associations with that thing are like glue. Because when there are too many bad associations with something, that glue from the good associations keeps you stuck to it and makes it difficult to let it go. Do you have any thoughts on shedding attachments from an emotional perspective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fader View Post
    I am super empathetic and have done so much work on my inner game that I am blessed that I can now help others brings out the best in themselves but you can't transform until you make peace with the past and are honestly willing to say goodbye.
    Sounds like projecting some very focused emotion to me.

    Sorry dude but aren't you just saying don't be needy,be non reactive, and stop being a puss and take control of your life? All things that have been covered on the forum.

    Then you tell us to make ourselves the hero of our own universe. No thanks I think I'll just stick to reality, the one that includes all the good bad and ugly. I'll feel the emotions I want to feel. Love the women I want to love. Accept or reject the roles I want too. I will also accept that I'm not the center of the universe or reality but part of it. I believe my life has purpose behond myself and that purpose precludes indifference as a way of life.

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    I found this while doing a quick search for the following quote from Henry Ford.
    "Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"

    "The Wall Street Journal recently published an article about the significance of our beliefs and the mental models, or mindsets that shape our behavior. According to the psychologists interviewed for the piece, we act and perform in accordance with the beliefs these models tell us is true...

    For example, if you think something is not possible or out of your reach, you're probably not going to commit much energy and resources to accomplishing that goal...Old habits die slowly because they are driven by an outdated mindset... In order to replace old habits though a change in your mindset, there are three steps you should follow:

    1. First, begin by specifically identifying the results you want.
    2. Then create and develop actions that will accomplish those results.
    3. Lastly, examine your beliefs about those actions to determine if they are holding you back...

    So if you want to achieve your goals, create a mindset made of beliefs that support the truth you want in your future."
    Saying that you are a product of your parents does not cover the entire spectrum that is YOU.

    You're beliefs although they may have been adopted by your mother, father, friends/family, are YOURS.

    How you act in any given situation is likely to be a result of how you were taught to. i.e. behaviours you've determined are how you will "react" in any given situation. What indifference allows you to do is remove yourself from the situation and look at it with a clear head and clear conscience.

    There is one more quote that I have to add as well.

    "there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" - Shakespeare

    How you see the world is up to you.

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    I'd like to give a standing ovation to Fader because he captures the essence of a great teacher, a master motivator, and more importantly a great person.

    Love your post and your attitude.

    Keep up the Great work!

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    Fader, you mentioned being apathetic and the act of not caring.

    When I think of not caring, what comes to mind is the "trying to be cool" guy. When I'm in a set.. or talking to a group of people in general, I'm usually smiling and having a great time. If I am apathetic, would that show that I'm not having a great time in a way?

    I understand that if a girl throws a shit test at me like..

    OMG, there's a spinach in your teeth?!, I can "not care" and be: "uh huh"

    PLAYFUL vs APATHETIC, I cannot put those two together.. for the above example.. my usual playful response would be..

    uh huh *slight smile* yeah, I know.. It makes me look sexy doesn't it? poor you.

    Is there a time and place to be apathetic and a time for being playful.. I'm just not sure, what you said rips apart a lot of my knowledge of this game back at the roots ! but I know I'm doing something wrong. I can't wait to see replies on how to integrate playfulness and apathy together!

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    more than just for girls

    Fadar's point is in my world all encompasing.

    Non reaction is a gate key from women to wealth.

    The end product of indifference will be a display of ones own comfort.

    So though it may be a bit uncomfortable to those around one, one's end result is almost always that the people around him see him as being comfortable.

    For this one will either be loved or despised!!! The positive being that those despising him will be doing so because they want to but can't muster being like his cool ass!!!


    The principal may follow a different chain-reaction in the human mind but with the same positive results prevade.

    A guy wants to fight + One being indiferent

    = The agressor thinking "Why the fuck is he so unreactive? Maby this is a bad Idea,...does he have a gun or a black belt or what?"

    Somthing is a bit extravagant money wise during a new buisness or potential buisness oppertunity during an outing + one being indifferent=

    "This guy didn't react in a "This is so expensive" uncomfortable manner, he must have or/and be comfortable with money. He's a good candidate to invest money with or will through my association with him bring me closer to money.

    I've found that like attracting like in the buisness world is almost infalable in regards to the concept of indiference. People who are comfortable with money make deals with people who are comfortable with money.


    Woman attempts to reject (test) a man and balk at sex or his advances + one being indifferent=

    "This guy must have other sexual outlets (prequalified), and/or he doesn't think I'm "All that", I'll show him how sexy I am!!"

    If indiference is genuine it is a totaly healthy mindset. If it is not practicing it will at least garner statisticly positive outcomes!!

    Great post Fader!

    My best to you all,

    Alaskanmana


    P.S. As a resource/referrence Stuart Wild's "Silent Power" is a good addition to indiference concepts.
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    Awesome!!

    I have to agree, this by far deserves the "best of" honor it has...it seems like this was particularly written for me lol! I can totally relate with everything you say, Fader. Time to put the past aside and move forward with a "new" you..it's crazy, it's like I can almost feel what you describe happening to me at this point in my life. It's like I can step aside and look at myself from a 3rd person point of view and see the changes developing everyday. I used to ask myself, "Will I ever get to the point where I will 'change' for the better and finally 'get it'?" I believe I have come to the point where that is finally beginning and am ecstatic that it is so!

    Thanks for the awesome post, it really is the 100% truth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenanigan View Post
    I have to agree, this by far deserves the "best of" honor it has...it seems like this was particularly written for me lol! I can totally relate with everything you say, Fader. Time to put the past aside and move forward with a "new" you..it's crazy, it's like I can almost feel what you describe happening to me at this point in my life. It's like I can step aside and look at myself from a 3rd person point of view and see the changes developing everyday. I used to ask myself, "Will I ever get to the point where I will 'change' for the better and finally 'get it'?" I believe I have come to the point where that is finally beginning and am ecstatic that it is so!

    Thanks for the awesome post, it really is the 100% truth!
    Thanks. Just remember we are all works in progress (well the smart ones at least llol). The day you are like I don't need to change anymore or I am complete is the day you should re-read the post
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