Thread: Physical Confrontations

Whats up guys. Wondering what your opinions are on fights and how to handle them while maintaining alpha status.

I'm a big fan of Mahatma Gandhi and his whole nonviolent resistance concept, however personal one on one fights are not the same situation and I'm not sure if this philosophy can be adapted for them.

Now I'm not old enough for bars or clubs but my basic understanding is that I avoid fights in the first place by making it socially awkward for them to take things physical while I maintain alpha status with fancy AMOG techniques.

This situation is a bit different, and while it doesn't take place in a gaming location and instead with friends, it does affect social status and I would like to know your opinions.

So anyhow to summarize, theres this dude who bums around our apartment complex (we'll call him X) who's bad news and I've been trying to rid my life of him. Even though he's homeless he thinks he's the man and when people don't want to submit to his demands he yells and threatens with physical violence and gets in their face etc... I found him trying to store some clothes of his (cause he's homeless) on my patio, and I wasn't gonna have that shit so heres what happens..

We're hanging out at my buddy's crib when X rolls over. I tell him in a non-confrontational way that I don't want to store his stuff and I'd appreciate it if he took it elsewhere. X always tries to tell people what to do, and he's all "Let's go get it" but I'm not trying to walk down there. So I non-confrontationally tell him that I'm not trying to go down there and he can get it at his leisure. So now he gets in my face acting like he wants to fight.

So I'm sitting down, he's standing up. The adrenaline is flowing I'm not gonna lie, he's pretty physically imposing, so he was saying some threatening shit but I don't remember what exactly. Then he just socks me outright in the face. Now I'm thinking "Gandhi" but I also want to have higher status, so I don't do anything.. actually my friend flips out and kicks him out before anything else could happen. I start laughing a bit as he was leaving, but I think it was nervous laughter and he gets all in my face again about shit and yes, he beta's my ass. And heres where I want to know what you guys have to say..

I figure I would -NOT- have been beta'd if I kept my frame of "I got the power, I got what you need, you're trying to use me and I'm not letting you", even if he kept hitting me more. Kinda showing that he's not going to usurp alpha status by use of fear and intimidation.

Anyhow, I would like to see what you have to say. It may not matter so much with friends but what if I was with some hot girl or something.. Should I have fought back because he's disrespecting me by hitting me, even if I lose the fight? Or does that just validate his status and lower mine, because I acknowledge him to be on the same level as me by fighting him?

This was originally posted in off-topic, but because at the end you reframe it in terms of women, it's not really off-topic.

However, this issue has been beaten to death, no pun intended.

Please use the search function. You'll see more about fighting than if you watched reruns of UFC unleashed.

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i think you're better off telling the the police about this rather than the PU community

Gandhi was also a lawyer so he was able to use intellect and words to fight. He and Martin Luther King cited Thoreau as inspiration for civil disobedience.

He valued life, so he would rather die than take someone's life in fighting, but it also meant not compromising the things you believe in, or let them crush your spirit in doing so. Proving that there are other ways to win than bullying and using physical force as a means.

He was also against promiscuity, avoided alcohol, and treated his body like a temple.

Anyway, no one should be dealing with this guy. If he's homeless, why is he there? That's something you can talk to all the tenants about and let the owner know what's going on.

If he's not supposed to be there, the cops need to have a record every time he comes around. He could be a danger the kids living there, so I would prob. talk to all the women that live there first.

You don't want to deal with guys like this, because he's got nothing to lose and will prob. kill you, or someone there. It's not to be taken lightly, and you don't want to be charged because some young civil rights lawyer sees this is as a way to get in the papers. You beat up homeless guy and put him in the hospital, he's just a disillusioned vet who can't afford meds to keep his head together.

He'll throw a brick through your window or break down the door and take your stuff, by the time you try to find him he'll be long gone.

He's a danger to EVERYONE there. Hope you and your fellow renters take care of this situation.

Is there someone who actually wants him there?

Originally Posted by sdnightfly

Is there someone who actually wants him there?

Nope, only the drug addicts but I don't associate with those guys anyways. Thanks for the ideas about getting all the responsible adults involved plus the cops, we'll try and make sure he doesn't roll around here anymore; or at least make it so he doesn't want to roll over here any more.

-Law

Tell the cops... *shakes head in shame* ... thats nark not alpha

Sorry but that ghandi shit doesn't work in the streetz. Now your problem is you acting incongruent. You tell x to do something but you don't back it up. He's testing you. When he gets in your face, you get in his face twice as bad. If it means fighting him so be it. Point is you gotta make x relize he cant fuck with you. Its like when you hear someone say if you ever go to prison beat the fuck out of someone the first day, so people know they cant mess with you. You should of had made sure x knew from day one not to mess with u.

He's got a pain in the ass homeless guy that won't go away, the dealer having him around is just a bad situation. If everyone that lives there feels the same way, the dealer can get his money somewhere else. I wouldn't think the money is worth taking from a guy that if it's going to draw attention.

Originally Posted by Domeremy

Tell the cops... *shakes head in shame* ... thats nark not alpha

Sorry but that ghandi shit doesn't work in the streetz. Now your problem is you acting incongruent. You tell x to do something but you don't back it up. He's testing you. When he gets in your face, you get in his face twice as bad. If it means fighting him so be it. Point is you gotta make x relize he cant fuck with you. Its like when you hear someone say if you ever go to prison beat the fuck out of someone the first day, so people know they cant mess with you. You should of had made sure x knew from day one not to mess with u.

Thanks for the discussion boyz. Another thread on violence meets a peaceful end.

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