Date Beautiful Women 4.2.1
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
Discuss Why are sociopaths so good with women? at the General Discussion within the The Attraction Forums. Dating Advice.; Why are sociopaths so good with women? It's a phenomenon that goes against conventional PUA ...
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Gender:
    Posts
    5
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Why are sociopaths so good with women?

    It's a phenomenon that goes against conventional PUA wisdom. They do not build comfort since they cannot empathize, their "charm" is what PUAs would call supplication. Yet they always get plenty of women despite their low value (inability to hold a job, criminal records, etc).



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Gender:
    Age
    26
    Posts
    574
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    No Approach Anxiety

    No AA = More approaches = More women

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Gender:
    Posts
    101
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose69 View Post
    It's a phenomenon that goes against conventional PUA wisdom. They do not build comfort since they cannot empathize, their "charm" is what PUAs would call supplication. Yet they always get plenty of women despite their low value (inability to hold a job, criminal records, etc).
    Actually you've got it wrong.

    Sociopaths are generally high value or at least display it in the way they treat people. They're generally not needy and insecure.

    They don't try to impress people, rather they charm them, but since they switch between cold and warm, they don't come across like needy AFC's.

    Really if you look at it, they push/pull people all the time.

    They will be colder, but then when they want something they turn on the charm.

    Many sociopaths become professionals (lawyers, stockbrokers, etc) and quite a lot have jobs in middle or upper management. They are generally intelligent people, since due to their lack of empathy, they have higher self-interest, hence rather than aspiring to help people, they just want success at whatever cost.


    Inability to hold jobs? criminal records?

    That sounds true for sociopaths in lower socio-economic sectors of society, but most criminals aren't sociopaths, they're products of their environment.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Gender:
    Posts
    101
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunk View Post
    No AA = More approaches = More women
    I'm pretty sure socio-paths experience anxiety.

    But yeah, they probably view most people as way lower value, so its easier to approach.


    "I learned that sociopaths come in all shapes and sizes and from all walks of life. They are lawyers, doctors, ministers, policemen, firemen, CEO's, company executives and teachers. According to Dr. Martha Stout in her book "The Sociopath Next Door", some sociopaths use their professional role as a mask to hide their real personality. They can be very hard to spot because they don't look any different than anyone else. Sociopaths are often very charming, likeable, easy-going and fun to be around. They don't worry like normal people do. They can be intelligent, impressive and inspire confidence. Sociopaths have an overwhelming need to be admired and often portray themselves as kind, compassionate and caring people. Only their victims know the truth."

    "Thankfully, only a small number of sociopaths will ever commit a crime; the vast majority of them will show their lack of empathy by bleeding people of their possessions and savings, doing and taking what they want, neglecting the physical and emotional welfare of their families or engaging in an unending series of casual sexual relationships.(Hare p45)."

    "Without the ability to form real emotional attachments, sociopaths do not have any sense of obligation-no moral obligation or financial obligation. They view people as objects that can be exploited and manipulated. "A sociopath is someone who 'fails to conform to social norms'; or who is 'never monogamous' or who 'fails to honor financial obligations' for the straightforward reason that an obligation of any kind is something one feels toward beings, or toward a group of beings, who matter emotionally. And to a sociopath, we simply do not matter".


    "I learned that sociopaths learn to imitate the behavior of others so they can appear to be normal. The appearance of normalcy is important to sociopaths and can result from their level of intelligence, their family background, their professional or social standing and their social skills."


    ^^ Lol, they can probably learn seduction relatively easy, since they arn't confused by emotion and "oneitus".
    Last edited by Sideswiper; 09-24-2007 at 05:14 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Gender:
    Age
    30
    Posts
    276
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Given the description of sociopath I'm wondering if I dont know a few.
    The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.- Sun Tzu

    If you act like the man, and people believe your the man, then you become the man, and acting is no longer required.

  6. #6
    Vapor is offline Administrator Emeritus
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Gender:
    Location
    Surprise Buttsex
    Posts
    6,859
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose69 View Post
    It's a phenomenon that goes against conventional PUA wisdom. They do not build comfort since they cannot empathize, their "charm" is what PUAs would call supplication. Yet they always get plenty of women despite their low value (inability to hold a job, criminal records, etc).
    They aren't good with women. They get some LSE girls, but they don't do well by any stretch.
    When I am writing in red, it's as an Attraction Forums mod or admin. When I write in normal text, it's just me.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Gender:
    Age
    42
    Posts
    50
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    They aren't good with women. They get some LSE girls, but they don't do well by any stretch.

    I'm going to have to disagree here Vapor ...

    From what I understand of sociopaths - is that they are good with woman.

    Many experts call Ted Bundy a sociopath.

    A Sociopath is this -
    - Superficial charm
    - Manipulative and Conning
    - Grandiose sense of self
    - Pahtological lying
    - Lack of remorse
    - Shallow emotions
    - Incapacity for love
    - Need for stimulation
    - Lack of empathy
    - Impulsive nature
    - Early behavior problems
    - Unreliable
    - Promiscuous
    - Parasitic lifestyle
    - Criminal or entrepreneurial versaltility ...

    Many of these personality traits are what we talk about here as trying to improve to obtain woman. Or we want to make it appear we are these things without necessarily being them ...

    or you could say this is a more perverse PUA but none the less a PUA.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Gender:
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    haha about 80% of the people that work in my office are sociopaths.

    I my coworker is the biggest one i've ever seen. He has a lot of game but it's not really his. what he does is he rides on everybodies coat tales. If you drive a nice car, are an actor, in a band, he'll be extra nice to you be your best friend on facebook just to obtain a social circle DHV. With my case I'm really witty and have almost and unchallenged imaginiation and creativity amongst the people i work with. He just keeps his mouth shut waits for me to give someone a playful nickname, give a woman hilarious push/pull, qualification you name. He then memorizes it goes hammers it into the ground with every single attractive girl as if it were his. I've noticed even when he's wrong with someone he never apologizes for anything. He's been in a long term with his girlfriend but look at every single girl in the office as fair game. He even stalked some girl via facebook, found out she had kids as was participating in the "bring you kid to work day". He imediately signed up and his been insuperable from her. He'll give jealous looks as if someone cut his nuts off whenever he sees any guy talking to his "stable". It's a regular thing for him to leave a message on a coworkers wall about how he is her boyfriend. He figures if she responds or immediately removes his post that she is somehow playing along with the roleplay.

    He's also been on Lexapro, is 28 and lives with his mom (his girl lives with them now). And cusses girls out in World of Warcraft because they are ugly or have an annoying voice. He's also intimidated a mentally challenged kid at work, after the kid respond to him with a "hello". He claimed the kid was testing his manhood and has not the slightest clue why that was fucked up.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Gender:
    Age
    31
    Posts
    510
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    My father is a psychopath! I know everything about these people, i can spot one instantly!

    If you catch them on a neutral level you will see them staring forward like chickenhawks, but their professional life is an act so its hard to do if they are good at pretending to be be normal.

    http://content.internetvideoarchive..../05035719_.jpg

    They dont have the upperprocessing that normal people do, basicly its a lack of intelligence both emotionally and intellectually. They dont comprehend finetuning, they have a hard time with test´s related to the superego. Otherwise they are very intelligent when it comes to logic and processing information. They are verbally highly intelligent and use it to argue and manipulate to get their will.
    "Ask a psychopath what he is supposed to do in a particular situation, and he can usually give you what non-psychopaths would regard as the correct answer. It is just that he does not seem bound to act on that knowledge. Despite psychopaths’ ability to give the appropriate answer when confronted with a moral problem, they are not arriving at this answer by normal psychological processes"
    http://www.eiu.com/index.asp?layout=...egory_id=&rf=0
    They are often obsessed with their daily routines because of their goalorientation. That is if they crave something really bad that will feed their narcissism. They often do anything to be leaders even though they dont care less about people. Problem is that they are only selfinterested and consume on their peers and even destroy the social structures that hold groups together, ultimately destroying their own position. They never blame themselves for anything. They also lack longtermplanning and dont care about the consequenses of their actions.

    They start manipulating from the early years of childhood. They try to use people by lying, roleplaying, threats. They are basicly testing peoples boundaires and learn to simulate charm so they can use their parents, siblings, friends and even start orientating sexually at a young age. Majority of them are pedophiles even though they dont express it because of strategical advancements, they dont want to get caught. Only times they cry are in court when they are manipulating their way thru or to play innocent when their partners catch them cheating. They only cry for themselves as an act. THEY NEVER FEEL REMORSE OR ANXIETY ABOUT ANYTHING!

    The ones that get caught are the ones that are stupid or that they really dont care. The intelligent ones fly under the radar. Majority of them are not in jail, only a small percentage is!

    They are often adrenalinejunkies and even feel more powerful when they are in a risky situation. They crave bigger kicks but become numb in the end not feeling anything. They first report these kicks when they were mutilating and torturing animals at a young age.

    They dont follow any codes, no honor and make lousy soldiers, criminals hate them because they rat out on everyone to save themselves. They never confess about anything, even when they get caught with their hand in the cookiejar, they still play innocent or try to make a joke out of it.

    They hate competition from others and even use force to scare them off, if they are interrigated about it, their victims will be put to blame and even denigrated, often the victims will get so confused about the compulsive lying that they dont know what to say for their defence, the lies are so many. They loose speach and dont understand how an adult can lie like a small child.

    Psychopaths are often obsessed by control and even in some cases kill their partners just because they didnt answer their phone. At work their first victims are those who call them out, beta´s usually feel intimitated and suck up to them. Psychopaths spot the people who knows who they are and do everything to get them out of the way, often by starting rumours. Highly emotional people are the ones that spot them first, otherwise its another psychopath. Psychopaths hate eachother because it means competition.

    They get obsessed by people and can hunt their girlfriends nationwide, we´ve seen the movies, like cape fear.

    If you see one dont let him know that youvé spotted him, act neutral and avoid them at all cost. Remember women are psychopaths also.

    I have alot of experience when it comes to this so trust me, i was almost murdered because my father wanted to control my mother when she filed a divorce. One i met at work and he tried to stab me because we had a disagreement. Also i spotted him so he knew that he had to intimidate me.

    Psychopaths are the scum of the earth and any romantisizing about them that you see in the media is utter bullshit. They are childish, lousy and worthless as human beings. Collect every damn feature that you hate about people, a psychopath will have all of them. You cant believe how well they hide their true selves, i was astonished when i understood how my father worked out in the open and when he was by himself, he was completely a different person.

    My only question about them is evolutionary, if they are truly the real alphas? I hope not!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA9-RB3runE

    http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_2.htm
    http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychop...ct_recognition
    http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Hand...ersonality.htm

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Gender:
    Location
    England - Yorkshire
    Age
    33
    Posts
    957
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Why do some of you guys try to categorise everything in to neat little boxes? :P
    Hey Jean Claude here, are you guys still having trouble with women? Just do the splits! Works every time for me. If that fail's I beat up a few bad guys with my big toe.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  • Forum Rules



Facebook  Twitter