Thread: Newbie with good luck or...?
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09-01-2007, 09:19 AM #1
I just started gaming about 3 weks ago, I am having outstanding success in my eyes, compared to what I had done in the past. I am tearing through PUA books and videos like they are going out of style (which they kinda are....LOL j/k)
Newbie with good luck or...?
I number close more than half of my targets no matter how hot they are.
I kiss close at least one per night
I have F-closed better than one per week
I will start posting sarge reports to help and ask for help starting with tonights sarge, with 2 pivots and a wing (both pivots coming from sarges last week)
Here is my question:
Did I have game before and not know how to use it? I am not totally sold on the fact that I was a loser before (even though I was an AFC) and now I suddenly am some new person. I am also not sold on the idea that these methods are entirely the source of my new found success with HBs. I was in sales so I am always closing and pushing in the direction I want them to go.
As a follow up:
Does this kind of early success mean that my learning curve is less than some?
I cant wait to attain a perfect 5-5. Thats what Mystery says is the test of mastry. I will not be satisfied until I go 5-5.
Comments? Criticism? Suggestions?
09-02-2007, 02:07 PM #2
That's awesome that you're doing so well.
The fact is, there are a good number of guys out there who have all the skills necessary to get really good really quickly.
Usually they're guys who are highly social, and who go out a lot, but are just doing 1 or 2 things that totally screw up their game. They read Magic bullets, and all of a sudden, something clicks and they stop making the dumb mistake they've been making for ages and ages. Bam, suddenly they're good.
What do you think it was that was holding you back?
09-02-2007, 03:11 PM #3
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yea i agree with this guy. i have no sarged yet but was by no means a loser. just by reading some of this stuff i see some major mistakes i have made and if i correct them. im almost scared of the results haha
09-02-2007, 09:39 PM #4
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I've only read the first 4 chapter of MB, and its helped like 100%.
I was never a loser, have a lot of friends, am fairly good looking, had the confidence..
my game went from below average, to a hell of a lot better, just because I knew the logical progression of steps in my head.
Now when talking to them, I can see where I should be taking the conversation, and just being aware of whats right and wrong, gives me extra confidence.
So yeah, I totally agree theres probably a lot of guys who have it, they were just blowing out on the order of events, where weren't sure where to steer the conversation.
I can only imagine, if I keep reading and practicing, I could fairly good.
Went out in the weekend, opened about 12 girls (not one bad response, and could of progressed further with all of them), met the club owner, got on a first name basis with a hot barmaid, 2 numbers, 2 k-closes, and had a pretty mint time.
** I didn't take everything as far as it could of gone - newbie mish.
09-02-2007, 10:54 PM #5
Honestly, what I think was holding me back was 2 things -
1) Confidence. I didn not really put sales and women in the same bucket. I can sell anything to anyone. My sales skills were being wasted. I had a misnomer that looks or something superficial was what led women to a man.
2) Female psycology. The female "brain" was once a really scary thing. Now that I have read MM, MB and The Game, among other things (and DVDs galore) I now understand what to exude.
Knowledge is power.
Here is something that I have heared since I was 16 years old and it finally REALLY makes sense.
ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND YOU GET TO KEEP THEM
If I could give 1 piece of advice to people just getting into the Venutian Arts, it would be this:
LEARN FEMALE PSYCOLOGY
(by reading these books and watching these DVDs)
Females want (fundamentally) 3 things
1)leader of men
UNDERSTAND these things
BELIEVE these things
ASSIMILATE these things
And the Victoria Secret catalogue is your oyster.